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Chuck2
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 3:44 pm |
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Joined: Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:35 am Posts: 4179 Location: Grand Prairie, TX Been Liked: 3 times
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Echo Karaoke @ Mon Jul 03, 2006 5:12 pm wrote: I think it was harder for me to get up the first time doing Karaoke than with a band. You are the sole center of attention and you really have no one to look to for cues and remind you of key changes and so on and so forth. I did a solo act, but my buddy was my guitar, and I was in total control of the music. But as a vocalist, I was with a cpl bands and they were great stage support. My first time Karaoke singing was scary.. Sang in the wrong key for me ( didnt know it could be changed ) the screen words were wroing from what I sang, and the cd skipped in funny places and was hard to know where I was when it corrected its-self.. My music teacher never prepared me for that.. That is so true. What are the teachers teaching these days. I hope they cover karaoke. If they do I might consider taking voice again.
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:13 am |
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Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:48 pm Posts: 13645 Been Liked: 11 times
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Quote: With a whole band, you get it all! Oh well, maybe my time will come.
Yep, the ego's & getting hit on by the bass player while the drummer is chasing your pet basset hound around the backyard. Trying to get the guitarist to pay you back for his chronic deviated septum condition, (coke habit)... Nothing like music to bring one big dysfunctional family together *at least as long as you have a license, and can shuttle the others to, and from *they can't drive, DUI stuff*... You end up with amps, and a trap drumset in your living room, and a new roomate or two who snore....(drummer call's and say's he's getting ride over to pickup his snare for a gig... of course when he arrives, he forget's to get his snare, and you end up feeding him, and putting him up for a month... since his wife threw him out've the house), Keep in mind that when you put him up on the floor on an air mattress next to your dog, he's quite happy, but your dog runs away....
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Echo Karaoke
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:18 pm |
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Joined: Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:34 pm Posts: 93 Location: Edmonton Ab. Canada Been Liked: 0 time
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Well, sounds like you've been in a band or 2 also.. Ain't it grand..
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jdmeister
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:40 pm |
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Joined: Sun Mar 24, 2002 4:12 pm Posts: 7709 Songs: 1 Location: Hollyweird, Ca. Been Liked: 1091 times
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:52 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:48 pm Posts: 13645 Been Liked: 11 times
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Quote: Well, sounds like you've been in a band or 2 also.. Ain't it grand..
Yeah, Until I got kicked out've the singer's home for alienating their dog :(
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:17 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:48 pm Posts: 13645 Been Liked: 11 times
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Hence, Karaoke is great !! You can circumvent some BS, until you know it's time to go out their and sing with the band... The young amateur life-style often sux...
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:56 pm |
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I didn't understand the concept before, now I get it. I thought you were talking about an "open stage" night. Where a bunch of musicians get together and hack around and you could get up and sing. The live band karaoke does sound pretty good. First of all you would need to find musicians that were willing to play for a bunch of so so singers. How do they get paid. Sounds like a lot more money to pay the band. That's part of the reason bands aren't working as much as they would like.
This sounds like a lead singer wannabe fantasy night. Could work if you had the right musicians.
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SwingcatKurt
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:50 am |
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Joined: Thu Dec 25, 2003 10:35 pm Posts: 1889 Images: 1 Location: portland, oregon Been Liked: 59 times
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It works great here in Portland with Karaoke From Hell---theyve been at it for almost 10 years now, have a 400 song song book and play Thursdays at one of the OLD LINE BLUES Bars and on Monday nights at at semi-titty bar. Either place is a graet place to go and sing in front of a live band and try out the real thing.
http://www.nwkaraokeguide.net/march2005/fromhell.php
Story I did on them at The Gemini--the blues bar I mentioned.
_________________ "You know that I sing the Blues and I do not suffer fools. When I'm on that silver mic, it's gonna cut ya, just like a knife"-The SWINGCAT
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Odie
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:03 am |
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Kurt ~
Who are some of the people playing in this band? Is there a song list online anywhere? Is the band adept at changing keys depending on the singer or is it one key fits all?
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Jian
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:08 am |
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Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2004 10:18 pm Posts: 4080 Location: Serian Been Liked: 0 time
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It supprise me that of the 400 songs listed in the book I can sing 12 of them. Which mean I can go over there 4 times and not sing the same song. ( assume I got only 3 go to sing).
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SwingcatKurt
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:36 pm |
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Joined: Thu Dec 25, 2003 10:35 pm Posts: 1889 Images: 1 Location: portland, oregon Been Liked: 59 times
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Odie--the people in the band are all musicians in pdx--they play in other bands too. I dotn believe they are able to play in other keys. They play alot off the music sheets. So you sing as its actually written--jsut like a live band doents play songs in off keys. theres a song list on thier website
http://www.karaokefromhell.com/
They play mondays at Dante's downtown on 2nd & Burnside
Thursday nights at the Gemini in Lake Oswego
_________________ "You know that I sing the Blues and I do not suffer fools. When I'm on that silver mic, it's gonna cut ya, just like a knife"-The SWINGCAT
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:04 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:48 pm Posts: 13645 Been Liked: 11 times
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Quote: semi-titty bar
Guy's are into THAT type stuff out there ? :shock:
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SwingcatKurt
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:22 pm |
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Joined: Thu Dec 25, 2003 10:35 pm Posts: 1889 Images: 1 Location: portland, oregon Been Liked: 59 times
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Karaoke band to play MAJOR OREGON FESTIVAL:
The Bite of Oregon will feature KARAOKE FROM HELL for people to get up and sing in front of thousands of visitors:
http://www.biteoforegon.com/entertainme ... stage.html
Has Karaoke FINALLY become a LEGITAMATE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT event??????
Karaoke From Hell booked along with National Acts like LOS LOBOS
_________________ "You know that I sing the Blues and I do not suffer fools. When I'm on that silver mic, it's gonna cut ya, just like a knife"-The SWINGCAT
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:16 pm |
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These are not your average band type players. Most have really big egos and would not like this type of a gig. You would be hard pressed to find too many groups willing to do this. Now you have to deal with 4-5-6 different people to coordinate a gig, vs 1 KJ. I'm not saying it doesn't sound like a lot of fun, I'm just thinking about the complexity of the task. I'm going to talk to some musicians I know, to get their input. That's a lot of songs to learn. I know 600, but I don't have to remember all the chords. LMAO
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SwingcatKurt
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:01 am |
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Joined: Thu Dec 25, 2003 10:35 pm Posts: 1889 Images: 1 Location: portland, oregon Been Liked: 59 times
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I agree with the "Big Ego" comment. Ive met PLENTY of those. Many were very nice people tho. But liek anywhere else there are some REAL ARROGANT KNUCKLEHEADS out there too.
_________________ "You know that I sing the Blues and I do not suffer fools. When I'm on that silver mic, it's gonna cut ya, just like a knife"-The SWINGCAT
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lbister
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:39 am |
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Joined: Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:58 pm Posts: 530 Location: Menomonee Falls, WI Been Liked: 0 time
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I agree with Big Dog. I probably "know" 500-600 songs as well but recalling them all at a moments notice is something else again. It's not too bad for 3 chord rock 'n roll but anything more complex can get a little hairy. Now that's just a considertion for one of the several musicians. When you put them all together you have to remember intros, stops, and other stuff and do them together all at the same time you can be tearing your hair out. Especially if no two members of the band recall the arrangement in the same way. Then when you add a singer who has never met you before, let alone rehearse with you, it adds another layer of difficulty.
This sounds like the kind of gig where you would end up tearing out what little hair you might have left.
My duo has in the neighborhood of 150 songs in our list. On a good night we only get to about 60 of them so our rehearsals are divided into working on stuff that we know but haven't played for awhile, and new stuff we're planning on adding. So our list is ever expanding because we're always coming up with new stuff. I imagine that at some time we'll reach "full saturation". I don't know what we'll do then.
Larry
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lbister
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:42 am |
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Joined: Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:58 pm Posts: 530 Location: Menomonee Falls, WI Been Liked: 0 time
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I agree with Big Dog. I probably "know" 500-600 songs as well but recalling them all at a moments notice is something else again. It's not too bad for 3 chord rock 'n roll but anything more complex can get a little hairy. Now that's just a considertion for one of the several musicians. When you put them all together you have to remember intros, stops, and other stuff and do them together all at the same time you can be tearing your hair out. Especially if no two members of the band recall the arrangement in the same way. Then when you add a singer who has never met you before, let alone rehearse with you, it adds another layer of difficulty.
This sounds like the kind of gig where you would end up tearing out what little hair you might have left.
My duo has in the neighborhood of 150 songs in our list. On a good night we only get to about 60 of them so our rehearsals are divided into working on stuff that we know but haven't played for awhile, and new stuff we're planning on adding. So our list is ever expanding because we're always coming up with new stuff. I imagine that at some time we'll reach "full saturation". I don't know what we'll do then.
Larry
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:34 am |
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Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:48 pm Posts: 13645 Been Liked: 11 times
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This really sounds quite boring, and annoying for a group of already established musicians. To be perfectly honest. When I was with a band, and someone wanted to sit in, assuming their tempo, and pitch was way off it was tough not to cringe.... I wouldn't be able to do this... It just seems like a drag....
_________________ Northeast United States runner up for the "Singing Hall of Shame".
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lbister
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:43 am |
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Joined: Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:58 pm Posts: 530 Location: Menomonee Falls, WI Been Liked: 0 time
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Yeah Kap, I agree. In fact our typical way of handling things is to say that we just don't do that kind of thing unless we can rehearse with the person first. Of course that's never possible so it never gets done.
I guess if we were putting ourselves out there as a live karaoke band that would be different. But it would scare the bejebbers out of me.
Larry
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:20 pm |
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If you put yourself out as a "live karaoke" band, what that means of course, is depending on venue, people are going to ask you if you can play what you might find today to be JUNK... If it's a middle-aged crowd, that wants standards, and classic, or contemporary styles, that's fine.... Although I *can* read, (had to for session and studio playing, jazz ensembles etc), there's some stuff I don't want to read....I'd rather starve than play some of the stuff I hear young'un's singing at local karaoke places....
JMO....unless you CAN stick to a decent ballad, standard, show type setting... That might be fun, but I'd think you'd have many requests to transpose... You'd have to be able to transpose..
It doesn't make sense to me, how a musician hired for the sole purpose of entertaining a multitude of singers wouldn't have the ability to transpose. That's go over as well as a KJ who didn't have a pitch shift
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