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Went for the "edit" button and hit the "reply" one instead. Kinda like the time I was ticked and went for the brake, but hit the gas pedal......  :no:

You know, if I'm not going to buy a cdg, but a friend has it and sends it to me....... where's the money lost? In whose purchase of the cd? Not my friends, cause they bought it already........ not mine, because I never planned to in the first place, and still wont if a friend doesn't have it to send me. I mean, you hear of a song or think of one and someone sends it to ya....... who's money got stolen? I mean, if I'm really not gonna buy it, who's sale is lost? Cause trust me, cdg's I really want, I buy them soon as they come out, I don't wait for a friend to send it to me. Matter of fact, I've bought cdg's BECAUSE of songs people have sent me, I get to liking that particular singer, and so I go buy a whole cdg of them. Maybe I'm "helping" the market. But, I don't need to defend or explain myself, I've said it a million times, hell yes I've shared music, and your BS sure is not gonna stop me.

Your making an arse out of yourself here in public. For every one of you that try to make me sound like a hardened criminal, there's 20 more of us who share songs.... so go on and waste your breath. You're not changing MY mind, never will. Maybe you think this bashing is gaining you some brownie points here.... but I doubt it. Or maybe you yourself get plenty of songs that way, and don't want people to know it? Braggarts and  statute quoters are usually the ones with something to hide anyhow.

So I'll just leave you here to mouth off alone Judge Twansenne, I told ya already, I'm not in the mood for you. I've got a song to go try recording, my friend that sent it to me wants to hear it.

OK, so then again using your logic, what if everyone decided to start stealing music, and cited "I realy wasn't going to buy it, so it is ok to STEAL it".  What artist is going to put forth any effort and release new music, becasue their music (AKA WORK) is being stolen, and they won't/can't make any money becasue of CRINIMALS like you.

And another piont.  DUH it is illegal, and you take your STOLEN music to a show, and the nice dj/kj plays it.  THen there happen to be a rep from BMI/ASCAP at the show, and see that the DJ/KJ is using stolen music.  A couple months later the DJ/KJ is sued, and looses everything.  You going to pay for that DJ/KJs loss beacuse they used your stolen music.

BTW blue, do you have a job?  What if your boss told you to work 1 day a week for free?  How would that meak you feel?  Now think about how it makes a musician feel when their work is stolen.

So then answer my question Blue....

What if your boss told you to work 1 day a week for free?  How would that make you feel?  Now think about how it makes a musician feel when their work is stolen, becasue they are then working for free.  Rember that when you buy a CD (NOT STEAL ONE) you are paying for all the wages of the people that had a hand in bringing that CD to market.  From Music that recorded the CD, the guy that mixed the CD, the artist/photographer that designed the CD, the factory worker where the make the CD, the truck driver that delivers the CD, the employee at the store where you bought the CD, and probaly a couple thousand oters that had a hand in some way of bringing that CD to market.

And another piont.  DUH it is illegal, and you take your STOLEN music to a show, and the nice dj/kj plays it.  THen there happen to be a rep from BMI/ASCAP at the show, and see that the DJ/KJ is using stolen music.  A couple months later the DJ/KJ is sued, and looses everything.  You going to pay for that DJ/KJs loss beacuse they used your stolen music.

But if EVERYONE had that same thought..."well it's just 1 song", 1 song becomes millions...which is partly why Napster was shut down.  1 song turned into millions.  



Yep because I don't advocate piracy makes me a bad kj and because I can't find club work because of the illegal rigs making $50 per night drive the legitimate operators out of business make me a bad kj.  No in this area, anyone asking for anything more than $100 night is going to get laughed out of the club.  Ask anyone in the area & they'll say the same thing.  GOOD karaoke is very hard to find here, most of it is the computer users that bought their drive off of e-bay (they probably thought it was legal) & the singers don't care & the bar owners don't care because they only have to pay half to 1/4 of what they pay the better companies so they don't care if their karaoke is top notch or not...the seats are filling just the same & the sad thing is the 21 year olds coming to age now are being introduced to this low end karaoke & accepting not realizing what it once was.
I'm not implying you are a kj, but it is that same mentality that display that IS in FACT hurting the karaoke business overall.  Yes you may have only done a couple songs...admittidly by trading/swapping whatever, but like I said, if 1 million people (probably a low estimate) did the same thing, a couple songs add up to MAJOR loss to the manufacturers & hurts the entire business from them to YOU!



I'm not looking to bash anyone, but when someone says that they aren't a pirate when they burn music they don't own, yes I will jump in & say something.  Now I will let it rest.

You made your point. (But Holier than thou or what?)  I got a dubbed disc from someone on ebay. It was Sound Choice 8125 (The Eagles) and it is a $300 new in case disc. ($100+ used) He sold it to me for $20 which was fantastic. Even for a copy. You can't get that one anywhere since Sound Choice produced it before officially getting the rights to it and they had to take it off the shelves and destroy them. It's a truly great disc and I wouldn't apologize to anyone for having a pirated copy of it. Yeehaw!  Me so happy!  :oh yeah:

You made your point. (But Holier than thou or what?)  I got a dubbed disc from someone on ebay. It was Sound Choice 8125 (The Eagles) and it is a $300 new in case disc. ($100+ used) He sold it to me for $20 which was fantastic. Even for a copy. You can't get that one anywhere since Sound Choice produced it before officially getting the rights to it and they had to take it off the shelves and destroy them. It's a truly great disc and I wouldn't apologize to anyone for having a pirated copy of it. Yeehaw!  Me so happy!  :oh yeah:

Matt....... thanks for making your post. I know that YOU know what you're talking about, so that clarifies a few things, as far as I'm concerned anyhow.

Not that I'm worried about the situation, if I were a KJ it would be quite another story.  But, that lets me know atleast when I take these to a k-place, that the KJ or bar owner can't be in trouble. (If .... heaven forbid... an a-hole like that would come in and try to inspect everyone's cds) Which, I wouldn't let him do anyhow. Not mine personally.

Anways, thanks for posting your ideas. (thoughts....knowledge.... you know what I mean)

And...... how is Missouri? You're missing some major heat here, it's awesome.  Oregon is finally having a summer, lll.

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IF people have particular questions regarding home use, and burning SC copies.  Rather than debating it, has anyone yet thought of calling Sound Choice and letting THEM tell you what their policy is, and how they general view this ? If the person on the phone makes a mistake, but seems somewhat emphatic that they know what they are talking about, take their name, assuming they are a fair representation of SC legal info for the end-user, document exact time of call, and  you did the best you can to cover your butt regarding any ambiguity. You still at least attempted to get some resolution from somebody at the company.  Just seems to me, that sometimes rather than people going around in circles, and listening to some that often are speculating... It's best to call the company for "grey areas", and not manipulate situations that already have actual answers....

JMO.. If there's something about the policy that isn't clear, call Sound Choice..

no, I'm coming back mid month to get the rest of my stuff. Be gone by the 22nd or so.

And don't be dissin' the midwest gurl. I was born here, mostly raised here, and am back now due to family obligations (but wanted to come back for many moons now!). We're scary! We fought EACH OTHER in the battle of the states!! Don't mess with crazy folk like that!