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Odie
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:22 pm |
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Steven Kaplan @ Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:08 pm wrote: I guess I'm confused Don, because weren't Sylvania tubes at one point made in the US anyway ? Same with Motorola, who made their tubes ? and GE ??
btw, we also lost Desmond Dekker two weeks ago... The one who brought ska, and rock steady into the states with his song "The Israelites" in 1965....
They get up every morning for bread sir, so that every mouth can eat poor me, Israelites.
My wife and children left me, she said Darling, I was only yours to be seen poor me, Israelites
Sure we had the big name tube makers at one time but obviosuly they stopped. I'm just saying that one of them or some totally new US company should start putting them out again. It couldn't hurt -- there's still at least a limited market.
Desmond Dekker was a real pioneer in bringing the style here. That bass/guitar run in the Israelites is pretty nifty too!
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Odie
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:08 pm |
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Here's a weird little graphic art design by Portland guitarist/songwriter Steve Bradley
titled "Ampobot" LOL :
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:49 pm |
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Quote: there's still at least a limited market.
When you consider most veteran professional guitarists favor tube distortion, and the boutique audiophiles will always cherish tube gear, additionally the collectors market. There's a Vast United States market that can afford to pay decent prices for tubes. Rather than make billions, they produce millions today... Huge market for tube gear. Who knows Don, Maybe one of these days people will catch on, and realize that State-of-the-Art technology doesn't always mean a better product. Tube rigs will once again be produced...
_________________ Northeast United States runner up for the "Singing Hall of Shame".
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:51 pm |
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I wonder what percentage of this room has never put a record on a turntable.
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:25 pm |
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Interesting guys. If EP didn't compose alot of his songs, I can't imagine why he had such a huge male and female fan-base. I can see females being attracted to what he was doing, but he was HUGE, an icon, and considering he "covered" so much material it's interesting that HE was as big as he was. Unless it was the renditions he did and how he stylized, which was a symbol of the "rock and roll" era, or was it more the fact that he bridged what was (at least up until his time) "a black mans music" or blues style, and created Rock from the 1-IV-V style of music ?
I never really studied anything indicating WHY Elvis became so popular.
Rather than threadjack this thread, I'll bring this over to my music thread... Where discussing elvis isn't Off topic...
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:51 pm |
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You have to admit that in his younger days, he was pretty hot looking. He has a unique voice and the tall dark and hansome thing. Watch some of his old movies. Being a very rich teen idol, didn't hurt him. Before fame he was as dirt poor as they come. Rags to riches thing too. Loved his mama.
"Elvis the Pelvis" did write and co write some songs. He was really into Gospel music before and after his fame.
Everytime someone wants to sing "I will always love you" the one Whitney made famous. Dolly Parton's name comes up on the title screen. Everyone yells, no I want the Whitney version. Dolly wrote it, so they are all Dolly's version.
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:53 pm |
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Interesting Big Dog !
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:56 pm |
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People used to tell me that I was a "dead Knockoff" of Elvis.
Here's a photo of when I did my louisiana tour. I stopped off at Keiths !
Obviously the horse wasn't used to CT yankee's
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:10 pm |
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I'm not EVEN going to go there.....whoa..............
Which one has the ..a....black sideburns???????
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:21 pm |
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Elvis sang so many songs... Sing songs that are already famous, make EZ money. Once a hit always a hit.
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:26 pm |
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This is pretty interesting Bigdog. Not sure why the comparison is being done head-to-head with Bing Crosby, yet the stats are interesting.
http://www.waynesthisandthat.com/elvisbing.html
(OK, There the stats are comparing entertainment monsters 1st half vs 2nd half of the 20th century)
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Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:26 pm |
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WOW..... I never knew BING was that popular. Think about it.... HE was a MEGA star... in movies and records. Holy Moly....even in today's standards nobody comes close to him. I'm amazed. Good stuff Steven. :worship: He makes ELVIS look like a wannabe.
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:05 am |
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Not just that Bigdog. But consider the smaller less reachable population during "Bing's" first half of the century ? He didn't have the broadcasting technology Elvis had, not to mention a larger population to entertain to (which existed by the time EP was performing). Yet Bing smoked him, even with considerably fewer folks in the world ! So I Agree, those are surprising stats. I never knew Bing Crosby was quite that big either.
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:00 pm |
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Jeanne, I perfected the song "Heaven" today. The same "candlelight" version you did... As an accompanist, the timing when leading into "Baby you're all that I want
When you're lying here in my arms" is pretty tough initially. There's alot of hesitation in that version. The timing is tricky. The pause between the verses isn't a typical phrasing
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milo
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:41 pm |
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i remember when doing it, i purposely tried not to pay attention to the timing issues but just feel my way into it (if that makes sense) and it worked pretty good....
sure wish i could hear your version.....even better to use it as a backing....
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:19 pm |
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It's identicle to the "Dj Sammy Candlelight version" you did Jeanne. Give or take a chord interval or two. I just cloned it. Unfortuneately "creative" is something I'm not, but that version really does have a gorgeous piano backing. YOUR singing of course in the version you entered is much prettier IMO than that girl "DA" (or whatever her name is he used to sing in the candlelight version). When I first heard that song, First thing I thought was, "now that's something I wish existed 20 years ago"... I need to learn that (considering I'd have never been innovative enough to arrange something like that off've the original Brian Adams compostion). I wonder who actually is playing the piano in the version you do however. Is that DJ Sammy a decent pianist too ? I just thought the techno version he does was :his: version. The piano part in the song sounds as if it was performed & composed by a person who is VERY adept at easy listening lounge type backing, and popular show-tune type arrangements. Sounds like quite an accomplished pianist with a very good ear for harmonization, and dynamics... That is a brilliant cocktail type piano accompaniment IMO... VERY tastefully done !
What I don't understand is why that version credit's DJ Sammy with that song ? Assuming he's a techno DJ, AND plays the piano that well, Why he'd have left contemporary light MUZAK cocktail performing, to do his usual Donna Summers computerized techno-beat stuff, and gain his notoriety doing that blech stuff, giving up "ballad piano" for techno-beat ????? Beats me :shock: .....I need to find out who actually composed that arrangement. Time to do a search
I'd have loved to have accompanied you on that song, but given my inability to record with an semblance of clarity, the quality of the backing you used does your voice so much more justice ! I was going to enter the Kate Bush compositions I did with a professional vocalist, but when you are used to hearing nice digital direct clarity, hearing a microphone copied version, of a cassette recording isn't flattering.
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Odie
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:46 pm |
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Steven ~
Why aren't you able to do computer based recording? No programs, bad sound card? Just curious.
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:55 pm |
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Don, My most recent equipment is my Tascam 424 mk2 recording studio. Advanced digital to me is still the Roland/Boss DR-5 "Rhythm machine/Band in a Box".. I never got into internet DAW exchanging, at least not yet, yeah, I spoke about it, got on the phone and tried ordering the M-Audio DAW Axion 61 controller when it was backordered and not available from Zzzzounds for 2 months, so I waited, and slept on it rather than pay and wait, In real life, I don't have as much free time as I appear to (believe it or not), while my fingers play around in here, I'm usually on a different system as well DL'ing work related stuff, and procrastinating playing with figures, and submitting stuff, this is just multitasking for me, I don't really live in here (contrary to popular belief.. I've not even checked music catalogs as much as I'd like to recently, the last time I tried, I saw a memorium for a local guitarist I knew, and that kept me up yet another night)... I play in here only when I'm multi-tasking, and yacking on the fly, I've bought no knew toys in two years....(last thing I bought were my PA cabs)... Never enjoyed the recording end of music... I'm back in the days of.... "Engineers, and soundmen dub, dump, and mix, and PAN... Kappy just sits behind and instrument and is the vocalists slave... Or
"Kappy, just shut up and play, don't do anything else, you'll break something, or burn the place down, or worse, blow up another costly piece of equipment..You were born destined to remain a technical/mechanical moron... When we're done recording I'll have my sister gap your spark plugs and change your oil so you don't get your hands dirty you prissy little stupid (@$%!)" LOL
I'm just a technophobic artist Don.. You name it, I've blown it up trying to show otherwise... I just have the knack... Dang, Don't ask about the TV I opened up and almost killed myself with two years ago... or the junction box, I tried rewire in my dining room wall, and blew myself across the room...
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Odie
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:07 pm |
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OK I get the picture! I'm no digital recording software genius either. I did most of my recording projects on a Fostex 4-track recorder.
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Odie
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:13 pm |
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BTW, I'd love to have a computer based job I could do mostly from home. I'm jealous Steven!
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