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A friend of mine's 21 yr old nephew died in Iraq. He did his time over there and
didn't want to leave. I guess him and his buddies had had heat stroke several times
and actually hid their medical records so they could stay. They weren't wearing their protective gear because of the horrible heat even though they are supposed to.
They got hit and most died. From what I was told if they were wearing it they may have lived.

The family is very proud of him. They know this was totally his choice to stay. They said he was proud to serve his country and thought he was doing the right thing.
The family doesn't blame Bush or the government.

I realize there are horrible things going on because of the war and I don't agree with all of it. It was a travesty this young man lost his life so young. My friend said when he did come home on break he seemed very different. He went out, partied hard and was very violent. I wonder sometimes if they don't want to come home because of what they have been through and would find it hard to adjust. I think they are forever changed.

At a karaoke show.. about a year ago... a very handsome (and even drunker) young man... walked over to the desk... and asked if he could sit next to me.  I'd never seen him before.... but asked him if I'd ever met him before.  He told me .. NO .. you don't know me... but I want to sit with you.  I asked him what brought him to the show... and he told me he was in the area to visit friends .... and that he'd just burried a friend that weekend ... that had died in Iraq.  He was a Marine.. and in horrible mental pain ... anguish, I'd say.  I told him to get a chair... and sit with me for awhile if he wanted to.  He began to cry.. put his head on my shoulder... told me he needed his mom... but she was far away.  I just put my hand on his head... held it against my shoulder... and cried for a moment with him.  He stayed with me for about 10 minutes... and then suddenly jumped up, and said he needed to find his buddies.  It was a very emotional and confusing exchange.  

I didn't ask him to tell me what happened to his friend... I didn't need to.  I didn't need to ask him anything.  He was scared, and sad ... and LOST.  He told me he had to go back... and just kept shaking his head .... while the tears rolled.  I told him I'd pray for him.  

Later that night.. I asked the bartender (an older man who's worked the club for eons) ... if he knew who the young marine was.  He said no... but he knew the guys he was with .. and that one of them said he was worried about the marine going back.  

I was told that he too was killed .... about 4 months after he returned.  

I am not afraid to say that I do not favor this war... nor have I ever.  But... I am also not afraid to say ... that I totally respect our troops ... and their comittment to their JOB.  I am the daughter of a WWII and Korean War Vet, who served our country.... and I am proud what he and all VETS have done.  

I wish you well, Ollie.

This thread was started after a few beers and exagerated a whole bunch...It was half in humor and half in frustation about wahts going on now... And I grinned when I read Keiths post.. I can laugh now but we all have weak moments.
And Keith a couple of comments it isnt the military but the Jane Fondas that I hate.. We buried the first marine in this county that died in the latest... Sure enough there was the protesters there blowing their nose and walking on the flag.  His mother was there and 50 bikers showed up and revved  their bikes to drown out their singing then 18 wheelers shielded the procession from the assholes and the burial. We observed all protocol along with the local sheriffs dept. I can stuff these things but gradually they all build up and I have to vent..

I get ballistic at times when it comes to things that go against the things that I believe in. Years ago a neighbor came over and totally admired my medals but I told him the battle is not over there it is here Stand up for your rights in this country but they used the education system to  brainwash a few generations into non-violent submission and total dependency on uncle sam..

I have seen total crops wiped out with one hail storm. We have been snowed in for 2 weeks...We have been through floods and in all situations had to provide for all the livestock an were too busy taking care of business to be wondering where all the help was. And neighbor helped neighbor. Dependency.....

Oh well here I go again but I have learned over the years to totally blow then laugh about it.. Those that know me in real life know me as a wise elder and very spiritual.. I am a shepherd and a beacon not a judge I am a wicca and have respect and tolerance for all religions and mores. I detest hypocrites and those that want to condemn or judge others and tell thm how to live..When a society takes babies from a mother in the guise of rearing the child in a bubble or environment that is state controlled is nazi in the first degree
 I will end this post with a truth that goes with the natural and spiritual laws that truly govern.. We come on this side to learn certain lessons and develop spirituallu Thetre is no one who has thew right to tell anybody what roads to go down how to mature what philosophies to adopt what mores to live by or what lessons to learn But there is a whole bunch of people that want to save the world and pass very heavy laws want to totally change society to to their manical and fantasy world so their shortcomings are satisfied And old indian elder was asked by kids what can we do to heal the world She calmly replied heal thyself...

And can anybodody explain to me why afer viet-nam there were thousands of vets that were homeless yet you go into the welfare offices and housing assistance and they are totally taken over by illegal aliens and they get more benefits than vets that  served this country?

Thanks Guys and Gals.....

Yup all the above is trivial but as in your link there are trends that are destroying families and traditions that the old schools have formed over several generations.  The one that infuriates me more than anything and I would break the the artillery is this

cps

Any gov or society that uses any tactic to rip babies from their mothers or family in the guise of protection or rearing them according to their standards or mores goes beyond anything that any despot ever dreamed up ... And brand the mother for life for something she didnt even do is the works of evil bastards.

I encourage all to scan the stats and read about the scams tactics and motives of cps and then sign the petition for a congessional hearing into this matter.