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Now the news is saying it could take several years for the gas prices to come back down.    See ya in the unemployment line....


Before this is all over Alaska will look like a pin cushion.    Covered in oil wells.

well bush and his family should be enjoing this, there whole familys into oil.....lets put our thumbs out see if they will give us a ride....

The only way the price will go is up, so don't hope that it will go down. Unless we can  make syn oil from nothing.
we need to get used to the fact that oil is going to gone before the end of this century. My question is can we find an alternative?

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Time for Hybrid vehicle technology to make a few advancements

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Northeast United States runner up for the "Singing Hall of Shame".

I have one of the biggest gas guzzlers in the world and I currently spend about $200 a month on gas....

If $200 a month, $2400 a year is going to break the bank, I suggest you move closer to work, don't take as many long road trips, and maybe even give up your high-speed internet and premium digital cable, maybe even find a part-time job working one day a week at Wal-Mart...I swear everyone in this country is a spoiled brats

It isn't as cheap as it used to be, but thank your lucky stars that it isn't $6 a gallon like in Europe and Africa...oh, and thank your lucky stars that you don't live in Africa period...

In fact, high gas might just save our country, make people move closer to work and bring back the american community!!

Plus, a gallon of gas is still cheaper than a gallon of milk, I say we turn our rage to the Bovine world!!

P.S....don't listen to the 7 year thing...we'll invade Iran much sooner than that and get the gas prices down for at least a little while!!

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C Mc
KJ, FL

[quote="Badsinger @ Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:00 pm] The only way the price will go is up, so don't hope that it will go down. [/quote]

Just FYI, this is not the highest gas has ever been....in 1981 during the Iran/Iraq war and the US Iran trade embargo, the national average was about $3.50 and even at that price you couldn't find gas outside of most major cities, and the country economy went to sh*t for a few years as a result. You should be thankful you can go the gas station and even find gas and that the rest of the US economy is doing just fine...

Spoiled brats I say!!

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C Mc
KJ, FL

More people should go on welfare, and move back in with their mom !  It also never hurts to ask for an allowance heck,  It's not our fault that we were born !


Live the American dream !   Don't become another wannabe.

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Have the kids move back -  NOOOOOOOO - I'm trying to get mine to leave.

I'd buy a hybred, but not until they proof to me they are better made.

I think the smart cars are adorable - I'd buy one of those also, but they haven't
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Nothing in my driveway gets over 12 MPG....... I'm kinda screwed with these high gas prices.

But you know what? I guess we just suck it up (no pun intended, haha).... not alot we can do about it.

Actually, I'm kinda hoping..... people DO start driving smaller cars to save gas.... which will drive down the cost of SUV's..... and I can go buy a newer model for cheaper.  LOL

See, there's always a silver lining!!  :D

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Well the car companies need to get their butts in gear and work on ultra fuel efficient large and small vehicles and eventually mass produced alternate fuel sourced vehicles.  Whether it's hydrogen, biodiesel, electric, solar, nuclear, whatever.  Just start doing something different!  LOL   The cheaper gas days are over.  :(

All buying more fuel efficient cars are going to is drive the prices of gas up higher over the years since the oil companies will need to compensate for lack of fuel useage.  Go down to figure 30 of this graph.  

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/aer/pdf/perspectives.pdf

Fuel rates vs gas mileage vs fuel consumption were all pretty comparable from the 50's to the 80's & steady until the fuel consumption went down in the 80's, the mileage went up - so did the fuel rates.

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Ya, like not use gasoline as their source for power for starters.  As long as hybrid technology needs gasoline it's a dead-end technology.

Motor Trend or Road and Track just did an evaluation between the Prius, the Honda Accord hybrid and the VW Jetta TDI and concluded that the TDI had the lowest cost of overall ownership and was the best ecological choice because it could run on bio-diesel.

Toyota has this country so fooled and twisted around - a great marketing job.  It will be interesting to see how Toyota will spin their bigger/lower mileage Tundra/Sequoia when the come out next year with a 5.7L V-8 standard and no Virgnia, it won't be a hybrid.

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I traded in my truck last year for a more fuel effcient car last year and have no regrests.  I tracked my mileage and expenses very careful and concluded I saved about $1,530 on gasoline last year alone, AND elminated the use of 31 barrels of oil in the process.  But I have to admit, I miss my truck...

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Yep,

The Jetta TDI was also voted best on overall ride comfort and other stuff.

....and you can believe it will be lots easier to repair and keep on the road than the hybrid stuff.

Congress should offer Volkswagen and all carmakers the same tax break they only give to hybrib makers.....If their car can pass safety standards and get great MPG, then the buyer should get the tax break, not just hybrid buyers.

This hybrid car stuff is smoke and mirrors anyway...so what if the car uses less liquid fossil fuel?...You then have to charge the battery which uses fossil fuel at the power plant that produces that electricity.....So there really is no reduction in overall all energy use. The hybids are not 'green' afterall.

The volkswagen TDI gets 49MPG on straight diesel or biodiesel...No added battery charging required.....The very best hybrid only gets 52MPG.....
DUH!

Volkwagen should sue the federal government for giving Toyota an unfair advantage in the market by offering the large tax breaks on hybrids.

Now I have NEVER thought of that before, and it is a GREAT POINT!

After all, the energy has to come from somewhere, and the majority of electricity is produced by fossil fuels.

The only alternative I see is ethelnol (sp?).  It would be the only true renewable fuel that I can think of.  But even the prices of ethonol are going up, due to MTBE being banned in several states, and ethonol used to replace it.  I guess that is good news for the 1/2 dozen ethnol plants withing 40 miles of my house.


We all have to face the facts....We in the US have been getting by on CHEAP FUEL for a lot of years, and the time is now that the prices are going up, and probably will never go down by any significant ammount.  No government investgation is going to lower prices.  No whining from the consumer is going to lower prices.  We are a society based on fossil fules, and until that changes, prepare to pay more for those fossil fuels.

BTW, saw the show "Dirt Jobs" where a guy was making Bio-deisel out of used frying oil from local resturaunts.  I need to get me one of thoes setups, and a diesel vehicle.  Also, read an article about a person that made their own hydrogen car.  He converted the engine to use hydrogen, set up a windmil to produce hydrogen, and now drives, in a round about way, on WIND power.

We took the horses for a ride Sunday.....3 horses went 20 miles on NO fossil fuel....and we had a fantastic time doing it-I got to watch the almost ex wife bounce in the saddle for hours-that gal looks really good when things get to bouncing  :worship: -and I think it saved our marriage....The horses still ate only their normal ration of hay and feed....duh.

Who needs cars?

So gas prices are high whether there is heavy fuel demand or low fuel demand?
That's quite a business when you can make a profit whether your product is selling or not!    

The idea of biodiesel vehicles makes a lot of sense to me.  Once it gets established it would be a fairly affordable source.  Plus the idea of having the option of using left over cooking oil from a Chinese restaurant smells good to me.  But you'd get hungry a half hour after driving.

llll, to funny steven,  yes milk is higher per gallon then gas but how many gallons of milK do u go thru in a day? ....i don't feel this country is lazy in the sense of wanting and needing cheaper gas....the oil comp. have never made so much money...and they have us by the balls and they know it and use it against us...

and topher spoken like a person that might own stock in oil...i mean if you don't have bread why not eat cake....said the rich person to the poor...and again maybe the reason for high gas prices is because of those biggest gas guzzlers in the world people....u may find this hard to believe but some people in the usa don't make much over 200.00 a month...the older people, now u go tell them to get another job, r just maybe u can give them a ride to get there drugs that also have went out of site price wise...no its not 6.00 a gallon YET, but its not 20 cents a gallon like it is in the middle east either...JMO....

So gas prices are high whether there is heavy fuel demand or low fuel demand?
That's quite a business when you can make a profit whether your product is selling or not!)

steven its the same way here with seafood....when they catch 10 million lbs a season of shrimp, the price goes down but they have more to sell, still make the same, if they catch less shrimp, the price goes up, still making the same...not a bad deal...

"This hybrid car stuff is smoke and mirrors anyway...so what if the car uses less liquid fossil fuel?...You then have to charge the battery which uses fossil fuel at the power plant that produces that electricity.....So there really is no reduction in overall all energy use. The hybids are not 'green' afterall."

I want to spill a little education on ya azzz:

#1: Car companies no longer make the electric cars that you plug in. They were a fire hazzard. In fact, there is a great story about one of the spokeswomen for the Toyota electric car back in the late 1990's. Her sole purpose in life was to promote electric cars due to their high economy and low emmisions. One afternoon her electric car was charging in her garage and caught fire, burning down her 6500 square foot house. After the fact, some scientist estimated that the effective emmisions released into the air from the smoke from her burning house was equivalent to running a gas car for about 75,000 miles. Good stuff. But I digress....

I used to sell Hondas, including Honda Civic hybrids. A hybrid car is NOT an electric car. You do not charge them. They charge themselves. There is an electric turbine within the engine that creates electricity from the rotation of the gas engine and the friction of braking. SO, even though the VW may get more miles to the gallon, the hybrid is using abotu 33% less fuel, producing about 33% less emmisions, and generally being much much more efficient and less poluting. THAT is why they get a tax break and your VW does not.

All of the silly crap you hear about cars catching on fire and only going 45 miles an hour are from the electric car era, and that era is OVER!!

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C Mc
KJ, FL

Topher - thank you for that explanation. I heard hybreds cost more to
maintain, is that true? And what you save in gas you end up putting into the car
for problems. I also heard the cell burns out after a few years and it is very expensive to replace.

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