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Would anyone know the approximate going rate for a used Crown base 2 amp. I'm looking at selling it but cant find anything on the net that gives me the going rate. Its in mint condition. If anyone knows of a site that gives market values for used equipment it would be a great help. Thanks

If you're talking about a PowerBase2 amp, it sold for about $400.00 MSRP about 12 years ago.  Nice amp, 400 watts a side, in good working condition it is probably worth about $100.00.  Older electronics don't hold their value.

Average used prices http://www.prepal.com/data/Crown.htm

Not always on the money but can give you a reference point.  Also check what they are going for on e-bay, final selling prices can also be an indication of what people will pay for them - seen one today with a $100 bid & 4 days to go.

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REALLY ?    Do you have any McIntosh, or Marantz Tube receivers from the 60's you care to sell at the "greatly depreciated" market value of older electronic's pieces ?  I LOVE people that believe this to be true across the board  :)  I pray that I'm the first to show up at their tagsales so I can purchase their junky old Thoren's turntables, close to worthless Hammarlund & Hallicrafter's tranceiver/ receiver equipment.  I lucked out in 1998, a friend who knew that his Guitar amp and cab had some vintage value, needed money desperately but was about to sell his Marshall Basketweave 1960A 3X12 celestion vintage 25 cab (4th 12 was shot) from the 1960's, and JCM-800 2205 all tube head from the early 80's for 250 bucks..  I gave him 100 more... Yet told him he should be asking at least 800 for that combo...

Anyway,  OLDER electronics depending on what you might have DOES keep it's value.... Many audiophiles pay a pretty penny for anything in good shape that's tube, or even Tranny equipment that was made well for it's time..  

All depends on what  you have that's "older"...  Some of the older electronics were built VERY VERY well.  True it's often very heavy, and large... Yet some of us LOVE that older quality.... Even some of the older TV's and VCR's were built alot more solid in days past, and are great to have around... You'd be surprized that a nicely built electronic piece that has stood the test of time HAS appreciated in value, in many cases.  Check out some of the older Nakamichi, Sony, Tascam, Luxman, Onkyo, Dynaco ST series, and even Magnavox amps [powered by the 6BQ5 tube (135/137 model)].  The Scott 280 is worth it's weight in Gold, and alot of Heathkit's stuff is nice too, as are Jolida amps....

Let's not depreciate ALL older electronics...Some of the cassette decks such as the Tascam 122MkII (pro line), Sony, Denon, Aiwa. (Many believe Cassette tape deck quality peaked between 1983 and 1987)...

All depends.   The nicer older Reel to Reel tape players sound excellent too !  Well kept Vinyl sounds very good too on a decent turntable... These are only obsolete if you believe all you are told. Since people stop listening to certain equipment, and adapt accordingly... Few can remember or do a head-to-head comparison with a nice old tube amp, tape player into just two Bozak speakers......

Alot of the old stuff blow's away surround sound digital systems for certain styles of music....Offer's a much more spatial sound, just more dimension to sound than mainstream digital equipment currently produces.... People pay ALOT for "back to the future" type equipment today. They are really just getting what we bought for $149 back in the 1960's when we took home our first Marantz receiver with paper route money.....

Sorry Lonman, and all the other techs in here.  I just had to make my little speech when I saw this.... I'll leave now  <ducking>....

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Hey i'm not arguing it.  Many old processors such as UREI compressors & leveling amps are still HEAVILY sought after & can be bought for anywhere from $1000-$2500 - these are late 60's early 70's processors mind you & still used daily in BIG recording studios.  I have a few '92-95 era Symetrix 501 compressors that I paid anywhere from $150-$200 each, best compressors i've used for vocals.  Old does NOT mean it's bad or outdated by any means.  If it weren't for the weight, some of the power amps of the later 80's & 90's could blow many of the "good" amps out of the water today.  The fact that they were heavier than boat anchors makes them less than desireable for mobile gigs.

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Agreed !   I was just apologizing to those of you that are tech's here for feeling compelled to jump in when I saw the statement exweedfarmer typed regarding



because in my opinion, depending on what type of electronic component we are discussing, and period of production for a given company, Sometimes the older electronics surpasses newer equipment in terms of performance, and value.  Some equipment was made to last, and sound real nice !  While often electronics isn't an area too many get into because of collectibility and appreciating resale value... Many of us ARE in the hobby of buying and reselling certain vintage pieces of electronics.. because to me....in SOME ways,  this equipment was state of the art..... and it's production is behind us now....It's just too costly to produce it now.

I don't generalize even in area's such as electronics...



That's an excellent example of a really nice past line, and I think the owners of such equipment must know it because awhile back I did a search for that make,  I was curious to see what people were selling it for, and purchasing it for in recent years. I assumed folks still had it around... For some reason, I couldn't find the UREI make for purchase from the period you speak of.. I think people hang onto what they have in this case for dear life...  I think they know it's value, You just don't find it for sale, at least I don't think you do, might be wrong... I'll have to check Ebay... Yet It's not readily found as I recall in the used electronics market.. People keep it !   Wasn't that JBL ??  I think it was.. not sure... I think I searched JBL UREI, something like that.

Karyoker,  Do you recall Tannoy being as popular for sound and quality back in the 60's and 70's as it's become today for studio monitors ?  Seems that in those days, when it was more affordable, people were opting for JBL... Yet today, Tannoy seems to be more popular than ever...Might be wrong, I just didn't recall it being much more than an average name for decent stuff 40 years ago.... Not especially high end...or am I wrong and have this all backwards ? Seems the name people wanted in those days was Lansing. Has Tannoy gained popularity while Lansing's quality has declined ?

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Hmm--Interesting.  We have a Marantz 4240, quad (strapped for stereo? Original Surround Sound?) receiver, a Pioneer turntable, Pioneer reel to reel, run through Altec Lansing Voice of Theatre speakers. (This system has never been cranked past half, and rattles the windows, and the whole house)  What do you think of using this as part of a DJ/KJ act?  For KJ, we have a 6 channel Crate mixer, 15 "crate speakers, RSQ 222 player. The Marantz has such a full, warm sound, we think this could be a great setup but would it  be too cumbersome?      Any thoughts?

http://www.classic-audio.com/marantz/4240.html
http://www.classic-audio.com/marantz/mindex.html

I think this was Marantz trying to break into the Quadraphonic Market. not sure.





NICE !!!!!!!!!      To be honest, That's a REALLY nice system, yet I'm personally not too familiar individually with that model Marantz, or AL's stereo end... but I wouldn't move it around, I think some of their speaker stuff had really nice cherry cabs. I'd set it up in your home, and enjoy it for high fidelity listening.. Now depending on the VOTT setup you have, (not being too familiar personally with their home audio lines, assuming what you have wasn't designed for larger venue listening)  they were still always REALLY NICE , even on lower volumes surprising enough! I don't know much about the audiophile aspects of the VOTT cabs.. I have a few bins of the PA and the Altec VOTT radial horn PA components in storage, that was one MASSIVE setup  :) but nice... That goes back to the 1950's... Are your speakers AL home stereo speakers ? or components from a stack ?  part of the VOTT PA, seperate larger bins ?? If-so,  those are REALLY nice.... Yet quite honestly, I wouldn't lug that vintage equipment around.. ESPECIALLY the Marantz/ Pioneer R/R/ Altec wood cabs...I vaguely recall their audio line, yet didn't know their smaller speakers (and I say that loosely, they were BIG) were designed for home smaller venue listening, yet I don't know. I thought AL was mainly into larger venue Pro-sound...and had projecting cabs.. I don't really recall later AL years of production which would've been around the 1970's for THAT type line,  I was a poor college student in those days, and I couldn't even afford the 1974 VERY new speakers that hit the market....BOSE 901's... Learn the best placement in your home for those Altecs, LEAVE IT THERE AND ENJOY THE WARM SOUND....... It's a beautiful system..... Either that are sell it..... It's worth  ALOT !!!!!
Yet if you love Rock music, or realistic sounding CLassical, that is a fabulous sounding system....Percussion can knock you in the chest...REALLY warm and realistic sounding. but you need to know just how to place those...

respect that system,,, IMO opinion,  you have what I'd consider some "state of the art" audio equipment there....

I'm not sure if you'll find any of AL's past cabs in here.  I'm going to look.  I'm curious.  I'm also going to do Ebay searches just to see what's out there....

http://www.altecpro.com/default.asp

If you want to sell that..... <clearing throat>  LMAO ...drop me a PM

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As far as know UREI was it's own company before JBL bought them out in the mid 70's (around then).  Once that happened, the quality actually declined.  The JBL-UREI isn't as hard to come by & isn't very expensive.

Can't comment on the Tannoy vs Lansing.  I have used Tannoy monitors & and found them very clean - a little on the crisp side, but very useable in a studio setting.

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eThanks Lonman,  I was thinking UREI was either a line of JB Lansing, or Soundcraft from years ago (which is now part of Lansing), For some reason I thought it was an older line of JBL...Yet quite honestly I don't know, nor do I recall if they were their own company in the early stages...

They may very well have been their own company originally.. I need to see what I can find on this, because quite honestly, I don't remember them as their own company, and I'd be interested in seeing the history, just out've curiosity..

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You were correct. I guess the parent company was and still is Universal Audio.

This is what I've found so-far.  This is before my time too  hehe

UA Universal Audio The original parent company of UREI, starting life as Universal Recording Corporation in 1946 by the legendary Bill Putnam.

this is my source of information, interesting site !
http://www.rane.com/pronames.html

UREI United Recording Electronics Industries Now operating under their original name: Universal Audio  (at least as if august update 2005)

I wonder how long JB Lansing had involvement with this company, because it appears they are now operating under their original name ?? UA

Here's another interesting fact...trivia none-the-less, yet still, interesting IMO; something I feel I should know.
CARVIN In 1949, founder Lowell Kiesel changed the name of his company started in 1946 from Kiesel Electronics to "Carvin," a contraction of his two eldest sons' first names, Carson (now CEO) and Gavin.

Also TEAC~ Tokyo Electro Acoustic Company
Tascam just stands for  "Teac Audio Systems Corp. of America"
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Maybe it's you, but I just looked on ebay, and one is going for 127.50 plus shipping with over 2 days to go.........jj

Thanks JJ,  No its not me but I did see another one going for $150.00 with 3 days left. Thanks for everyones help.

Actually the price just went to $200.00 with 2 days left.  :shock:

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dl ... =&saprchi=