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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:59 am 
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the club i host my show at is pretty redneck   within a month of putting out new books they are looking pretty bad   how often do you redo your books[font=Comic Sans MS][/font] :shock:


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HELLO?? anyone???    :D


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We do them complete every 12-18 months, depending on the number of new songs we get per cycle.  We have Staples do them due to the size and bound them in plastic duotangs.

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trisha @ Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:59 am wrote:
the club i host my show at is pretty redneck   within a month of putting out new books they are looking pretty bad   how often do you redo your books[font=Comic Sans MS][/font] :shock:
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HELLO?? anyone???    :D
Patience is a virtue. You can't expect people to come flying to your post within 2 minutes you know.

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How long is a piece of string? It all depends on the amount of abuse, and if I have enough new songs to justify adding them.
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where is the best place to get song books printed and bound
You'll find some people do it themselves at home on a laser printer, others go to the local print shop.

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trisha @ Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:59 am wrote:
the club i host my show at is pretty redneck   within a month of putting out new books they are looking pretty bad   how often do you redo your books[font=Comic Sans MS][/font] :shock:


I redo mine about 1 time per year.

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Within my first year of having my own business, I reprinted my complete books every 6 months.  Nowadays, I update my "NEW ADDITIONS" section of my books monthly and will do a full reprint/update once a year.

I have my songlist on EXCEL.  When I'm ready to print I put my file on a CD and take it to STAPLES...  (I need one of those buttons)

"THAT WAS EASY"

My pages are kept in 3-ring-binder sheet protectors.  When they get beer spilled on them I just replace them.

By the way, spend a little extra and buy the heavy duty Medical Chart 3 ring binders.  I've had mine for a year now and they still look brand new!

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wallyd2 @ Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:47 pm wrote:
By the way, spend a little extra and buy the heavy duty Medical Chart 3 ring binders.  I've had mine for a year now and they still look brand new!

Hope this helps.


I do the same as WALLY, and vote for Staples.  I belive they can even bind your books too.  Don't forget to check your local mom&pop print shop too!


WALLY:  Where did you get your binders?  I have been looking for thoes too, but all I have found are WAY to expensive.


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wallyd2 @ Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:47 pm wrote:
Within my first year of having my own business, I reprinted my complete books every 6 months.  Nowadays, I update my "NEW ADDITIONS" section of my books monthly and will do a full reprint/update once a year.

I have my songlist on EXCEL.  When I'm ready to print I put my file on a CD and take it to STAPLES...  (I need one of those buttons)

"THAT WAS EASY"

My pages are kept in 3-ring-binder sheet protectors.  When they get beer spilled on them I just replace them.

By the way, spend a little extra and buy the heavy duty Medical Chart 3 ring binders.  I've had mine for a year now and they still look brand new!


I agree with this gentleman.....it is practicle, and you can do it yourself.....it also makes it easy to change thing......I also find that a cheap laser printer(under $100) is cheaper, and gives you more control, than getting copies made.....good luck....Johnny

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Ditto

I purchase Heavy Duty Binders and Diamond Clear sheet protectors.

I take my songlist on a CD to Office Depot and they print and stuff all of my pages into the sheet protectors for me. Then when I get them back home I put them into the binders myself which takes very little time.

Tried the duo-tang route and it did not work for me as the books did not last as long as binders with sheet protectors. Not that they dont work for others...just not for me.

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Reprint my books about 4 times a year.  I email my book to Pip Printing and they print for me.  Cheaper than I can myself.

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I have my main section that I keep for about a year or so. I print all the new songs in the new songs section until I combine them all in to main part, again once a year or so. I use heavy duty binder and so far they have stood up to some drops and beer spills. I bought cheap flimsy sheet protectors and recents threw them away and replaced them with heavy duty ones. I found that ones sold at Costco is the best combination of durability and cost.

I used to use Officemax for printing because my home laser printer can not do dual side printing. Otherwise I would do it at home. Closest Officemax recently closed down so now I use Kinkos because it's convenient.

I put several brochures inside of the binder so people can take one if they want. Also, I have stick on business card holder and have that inside cover of the binder and put my business cards there. It works well, until beer spill then I have clean them and put new ones in there.

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eben @ Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:21 pm wrote:
I put several brochures inside of the binder so people can take one if they want. Also, I have stick on business card holder and have that inside cover of the binder and put my business cards there. It works well, until beer spill then I have clean them and put new ones in there.


Myself, I have the heavy duty Pen/Pencil Pouch with the 3-Ring Binder holes.  I stock this with a pen, karaoke slips and a couple of business cards every night before a gig.  The pouches are see through in the front so the first thing that a person sees when they open a book are Request Slips and a business card.

Since I've started doing this, I'm giving out about 3-6 business cards a night with no effort.

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wallyd2 @ Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:40 pm wrote:
eben @ Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:21 pm wrote:
I put several brochures inside of the binder so people can take one if they want. Also, I have stick on business card holder and have that inside cover of the binder and put my business cards there. It works well, until beer spill then I have clean them and put new ones in there.


Myself, I have the heavy duty Pen/Pencil Pouch with the 3-Ring Binder holes.  I stock this with a pen, karaoke slips and a couple of business cards every night before a gig.  The pouches are see through in the front so the first thing that a person sees when they open a book are Request Slips and a business card.

Since I've started doing this, I'm giving out about 3-6 business cards a night with no effort.


Actually, I do have a pouch. In there I have several sharpened pencils, pencil sharpner and song request slips. I don't put business cards or brochures in there because the pencil leads tend to leave marks on them. The song request slips are ok since they are writing on them anyways and can be erased.

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I tried making my books myself - not worth it!

I've made my books 2 different ways. I have a big song list, so I make 1 book by artist, 1 by title. I have 2 main books in binders individually sleeved - all my other books have a laminated front and back page with unsleeved pages with binder holes.

I tried a couple different places and found in my area Staples and
office max had the best prices for pages and binding. I just bring in my disc and they do the rest. I went to Kinkos once. Wow they over charge!

I can't beleive how well the books with no page protectors have held up. My hard cover binders are wearing out first. I make back up books so I always have a replacement ready if one wears out, so I haven't made a new book in 2 years. I just add a page of new songs when needed.

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To us, plastic page protectors are a waste of money.  If a drink gets spilled on a book, we leave it out and air dry it.  Next day there's not much evidence of it ever being wet.  With a page protector if it's not completely wiped clean it stickes to the neighbouring page.

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I redo mine every 6 months. I usually have a lot of new additions and requests piling up anyway. I have 2 rigs and I get 60 copies printed up and split between the 2. By the time 6 months are up they all usually smell like a brewery and are ready to be replaced anyway.

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We use poly binders (so far they seem to hold up better than the binder with the cardboard sandwiched between plastic) and put our pages in sleeve protectors.  We have a section for new music and also have books by song and by artist.

Susie :)

I forgot to add that we print them ourselves and copy them (two-sided) ourselves.  Fortunately we have a copy machine in our business, I've checked with the copy places and they charge a fortune... Although sometimes it seems worth it with all the time it takes, I just hate spending money on something I can do myself!  LOL

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i have never had to change mine i have had them about 9mo but my people have respect for me and my equipment they know better then to tear mine up


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blastfromthepast @ Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:09 pm wrote:
i have never had to change mine i have had them about 9mo but my people have respect for me and my equipment they know better then to tear mine up


Don't you ever add new songs? Or have people spill beer on them by accident?

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