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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:28 pm |
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Quote: OH GREAT!! There goes ANOTHER fantasy!! Thanks a LOT Pop!!! They're MY SISTERS
so ? what's a title anyway ?
You never watched "All in the family" ?
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:30 pm |
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Quote: Yep, someone's secret is out now--I wonder how many more are going to show up for this reunion
Just the usual suspects.
Keith, Don, Myself and Karyoker.
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pinkrose
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:31 pm |
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Steven Kaplan @ Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:28 pm wrote: Quote: OH GREAT!! There goes ANOTHER fantasy!! Thanks a LOT Pop!!! They're MY SISTERS so ? what's a title anyway ? You never watched "All in the family" ?
Or even "Different Strokes" LMAO LMAO
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:33 pm |
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Quote: Or even "Different Strokes"
Yeah, some of us have been getting into reruns alot lately
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Singing Squid
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:42 pm |
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pinkrose @ Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:31 pm wrote: Steven Kaplan @ Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:28 pm wrote: Quote: OH GREAT!! There goes ANOTHER fantasy!! Thanks a LOT Pop!!! They're MY SISTERS so ? what's a title anyway ? You never watched "All in the family" ? Or even "Different Strokes" LMAO LMAO
OK...just tell me I was adopted or somethin'...then, it won't seem so WEIRD!! :shock: :O
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pinkrose
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:45 pm |
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SingingSquid @ Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:42 pm wrote: pinkrose @ Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:31 pm wrote: Steven Kaplan @ Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:28 pm wrote: Quote: OH GREAT!! There goes ANOTHER fantasy!! Thanks a LOT Pop!!! They're MY SISTERS so ? what's a title anyway ? You never watched "All in the family" ? Or even "Different Strokes" LMAO LMAO OK...just tell me I was adopted or somethin'...then, it won't seem so WEIRD!! :shock: :O
Is that "wishful thinking" to keep those fantasies alive?? LMAO :shock:
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:45 pm |
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Oh, I can tell you whatever you wish me to.
Thing is, it won't make it true
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Singing Squid
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:49 pm |
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pinkrose @ Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:45 pm wrote: SingingSquid @ Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:42 pm wrote: pinkrose @ Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:31 pm wrote: Steven Kaplan @ Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:28 pm wrote: Quote: OH GREAT!! There goes ANOTHER fantasy!! Thanks a LOT Pop!!! They're MY SISTERS so ? what's a title anyway ? You never watched "All in the family" ? Or even "Different Strokes" LMAO LMAO OK...just tell me I was adopted or somethin'...then, it won't seem so WEIRD!! :shock: :O Is that "wishful thinking" to keep those fantasies alive?? LMAO :shock:
Two of the prettiest girls around turn out to be my sisters? I think I'm scarred for life!! :bigcry: :grumble: :madgo: :dontknow: :giveup:
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Odie
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:54 pm |
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pinkrose @ Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:45 pm wrote: SingingSquid @ Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:42 pm wrote: pinkrose @ Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:31 pm wrote: Steven Kaplan @ Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:28 pm wrote: Quote: OH GREAT!! There goes ANOTHER fantasy!! Thanks a LOT Pop!!! They're MY SISTERS so ? what's a title anyway ? You never watched "All in the family" ? Or even "Different Strokes" LMAO LMAO OK...just tell me I was adopted or somethin'...then, it won't seem so WEIRD!! :shock: :O Is that "wishful thinking" to keep those fantasies alive?? LMAO :shock:
OK, i think it's time that we all do those home DNA test kits they have out now and get to the bottom of all of this! LOL
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Isis
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:57 pm |
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So Kappy dad...It appears that you are the "Father of Karaoke"
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pinkrose
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:01 pm |
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SingingSquid @ Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:49 pm wrote: pinkrose @ Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:45 pm wrote: SingingSquid @ Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:42 pm wrote: pinkrose @ Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:31 pm wrote: Steven Kaplan @ Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:28 pm wrote: Quote: OH GREAT!! There goes ANOTHER fantasy!! Thanks a LOT Pop!!! They're MY SISTERS so ? what's a title anyway ? You never watched "All in the family" ? Or even "Different Strokes" LMAO LMAO OK...just tell me I was adopted or somethin'...then, it won't seem so WEIRD!! :shock: :O Is that "wishful thinking" to keep those fantasies alive?? LMAO :shock: Two of the prettiest girls around turn out to be my sisters? I think I'm scarred for life!! :bigcry: :grumble: :madgo: :dontknow: :giveup:
Inhale......Exhale......There's always the option of DNA testing :rotflmao:
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Isis
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:03 pm |
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Dave is having a hard time accepting this...He is getting his DNA testing right now...
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Odie
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:07 pm |
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Isis @ Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:03 pm wrote: Dave is having a hard time accepting this...He is getting his DNA testing right now...
This will take a few days for the results, Dave! So until then, relax and drink heavily I guess.
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pinkrose
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:10 pm |
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Isis @ Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:03 pm wrote: Dave is having a hard time accepting this...He is getting his DNA testing right now...
Either that or he is already drinking himself into a "denial" stupor LMAO
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Singing Squid
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:12 pm |
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pinkrose @ Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:10 pm wrote: Isis @ Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:03 pm wrote: Dave is having a hard time accepting this...He is getting his DNA testing right now...
Either that or he is already drinking himself into a "denial" stupor LMAO[/quote
The Nile is a river in Egypt...the Nile is a river in Egypt...the Nile is a river in Egypt... (incoherent babbling)
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:14 pm |
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Quote: That's true. Not positive, but I don't think most of the teens in Europe use alcohol in such an extreme way as over here. Since it's culturally allowed at that age, it's probably not as exciting.
I'm going to have to disagree with this "excitement" aspect Don. Unless of course genetically their physiology is different, and alcohol doesn't have the hypnotic depressant quality it does here in the states, that makes it such a prime choice for "self medicating", and the potential for alcoholism. I had my first drink around 10, even at sedar's ? <SP> and family religious get togethers, I started drinking blackberry brandy. and red and white wines very sparingly and getting drunk sporadically at around 11, Thing is, when the dizzy feeling passed, I'd maybe have the occasional drink at most 2-3 times a year, even fearing that "drunk" sensation.
I didn't become addicted to alcohol until around 22 (drinking age was 18 ). I drank occasionally up until 21, but it's when I needed it to self-medicate I became addicted, in a similar way tolerance builds to benzodiazepine class tranqs.. I think the same conditions would also exist in europe, UNLESS our culture is more open about alcoholism. and we don't hide our drunks.. Why is there any reason to believe that human beings, unless physiologically predisposed in very different ways in the US, would use ethyl alcohol to medicate, and humans in europe would not also have such a propensity for alcoholism unless metabolically American people interact differently to alcohol. or the stress/alcohol interaction is different ? Alcohol can medicate certain mental states more affectively short-term more affordably, and faster than even our most potent category 2 narcotics.
I think the fine line between abuse, and use is how brain chemistry reacts to ether. Whether the european people do, or do not get a dopamine release from alcohol might be the only difference, but my guess is they do.
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pinkrose
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:16 pm |
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SingingSquid @ Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:12 pm wrote: pinkrose @ Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:10 pm wrote: Isis @ Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:03 pm wrote: Dave is having a hard time accepting this...He is getting his DNA testing right now... Either that or he is already drinking himself into a "denial" stupor LMAO[/quote The Nile is a river in Egypt...the Nile is a river in Egypt...the Nile is a river in Egypt... (incoherent babbling)
Soon to be ..."The Egypt is a river in Nile...The Egypt is a river in Nile....." :drunk: :drool: LMAO LMAO
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Odie
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:24 pm |
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Steven Kaplan @ Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:14 pm wrote: Quote: That's true. Not positive, but I don't think most of the teens in Europe use alcohol in such an extreme way as over here. Since it's culturally allowed at that age, it's probably not as exciting. I'm going to have to disagree with this "excitement" aspect Don. Unless of course genetically their physiology is different, and alcohol doesn't have the hypnotic depressant quality it does here in the states, that makes it such a prime choice for "self medicating", and the potential for alcoholism. I had my first drink around 10, even at sedar's ? <SP> and family religious get togethers, I started drinking blackberry brandy. and red and white wines very sparingly and getting drunk sporadically at around 11, Thing is, when the dizzy feeling passed, I'd maybe have the occasional drink at most 2-3 times a year, even fearing that "drunk" sensation. I didn't become addicted to alcohol until around 22 (drinking age was 18 ). I drank occasionally up until 21, but it's when I needed it to self-medicate I became addicted, in a similar way tolerance builds to benzodiazepine class tranqs.. I think the same conditions would also exist in europe, UNLESS our culture is more open about alcoholism. and we don't hide our drunks.. Why is there any reason to believe that human beings, unless physiologically predisposed in very different ways in the US, would use ethyl alcohol to medicate, and humans in europe would not also have such a propensity for alcoholism unless metabolically American people interact differently to alcohol. or the stress/alcohol interaction is different ? Alcohol can medicate certain mental states more affectively short-term more affordably, and faster than even our most potent category 2 narcotics.
Dr. Steve ~ I guess what I was getting at was the idea or anticipation of using alcohol, because of it's illegal status at that age, is exciting. Sure alcohol is a depressant, technically, but the effects on most people seem to involve liberating repressed personality traits. Maybe Europeans drink more in moderation as opposed to binge drinking like a lot of USA teens and young adults do? Thus, they're less proned to serious problems.
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:37 pm |
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I wouldn't think that could be the case Don, assuming they too find it's
A) readily available
B) medicates stress, anxiety, and esteem issues as affectively as it does many
in our culture.
My feelings are it has nothing to do with "novelty of forbidden substance" that makes it so dangerous, but rather its chemical properties as a hypnotic depressant
substance that creates false confidence, medicates stress and anxiety as well as temporarily calms affects of severe depression anxiety. What I think is so dangerous is that initial "psychological warmth" or euphoria created by it's dopamine release.. That's the hypnotic aspect before it takes action as a CNS depressant. It
s an enticing drug. I'm wondering why it'd be less dangerous for european people than American people... It's ether.. It anesthetizes.
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Odie
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:41 pm |
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Odie @ Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:24 pm wrote: Steven Kaplan @ Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:14 pm wrote: Quote: That's true. Not positive, but I don't think most of the teens in Europe use alcohol in such an extreme way as over here. Since it's culturally allowed at that age, it's probably not as exciting. I'm going to have to disagree with this "excitement" aspect Don. Unless of course genetically their physiology is different, and alcohol doesn't have the hypnotic depressant quality it does here in the states, that makes it such a prime choice for "self medicating", and the potential for alcoholism. I had my first drink around 10, even at sedar's ? <SP> and family religious get togethers, I started drinking blackberry brandy. and red and white wines very sparingly and getting drunk sporadically at around 11, Thing is, when the dizzy feeling passed, I'd maybe have the occasional drink at most 2-3 times a year, even fearing that "drunk" sensation. I didn't become addicted to alcohol until around 22 (drinking age was 18 ). I drank occasionally up until 21, but it's when I needed it to self-medicate I became addicted, in a similar way tolerance builds to benzodiazepine class tranqs.. I think the same conditions would also exist in europe, UNLESS our culture is more open about alcoholism. and we don't hide our drunks.. Why is there any reason to believe that human beings, unless physiologically predisposed in very different ways in the US, would use ethyl alcohol to medicate, and humans in europe would not also have such a propensity for alcoholism unless metabolically American people interact differently to alcohol. or the stress/alcohol interaction is different ? Alcohol can medicate certain mental states more affectively short-term more affordably, and faster than even our most potent category 2 narcotics. Dr. Steve ~ I guess what I was getting at was the idea or anticipation of using alcohol, because of it's illegal status at that age, is exciting. Sure alcohol is a depressant, technically, but the effects on most people seem to involve liberating repressed personality traits. Maybe Europeans drink more in moderation as opposed to binge drinking like a lot of USA teens and young adults do? Thus, they're less proned to serious problems.
I do agree with what your saying for sure about alcoholism. There are still not enough people who know about the different stages of alcoholism. More education is needed, not just a "just say no" type of attitude." That just encourages rebellion in some kids and makes want to try it more sometimes. A true alcoholic remembers his first drinks and the effects it had on him or her. The effect of alcohol registers in a strong way. When it starts becoming used as a way of coping and altering the mood on purpose is when it starts to become dangerous obviously. I'm not sure what's taught in public schools these days. Hopefully they're getting some decent education on the subject.
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