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Ok, now I know this is going to stir up some stuff... but I am wondering aside from their reputations for quality or non-quality (reliability)... any real differences in features between say the Behringer UB1832 and the Yamaha MG16/6FX ?  Also, did y'all see the new Behringer series? Similar to the UB series, but called XENYX with USB and stuff added....


With close to one million units sold, the UB mixer series has become one of the most popular mixer series of all times that has no doubt connected musicians all over the world. Our new XENYX mixers will take you to an even higher plane.

The XENYX 1832FX has 18 inputs and 3 Aux Sends for each channel. Additionally, 2 subgroups with separate outputs have been incorporated for routing flexibility.

The new XENYX Mic Preamp matches the sound quality, transparency, headroom and even the dynamic range of boutique-style, stand-alone mic preamps.

Our neo-classic “British EQ” brings back the warmth and musicality of those ‘60s and ‘70s mega-console desks that made music history.

The XENYX FX mixers incorporate a new studio-grade 24-bit FX processor. Get 100 real-world and awesome effect presets at your fingertips.

This XENYX mixer comes with a USB/Audio Interface for direct plug & play connectivity to your Windows® or Mac® computer. Get your audio to and from any DAW and make your XENYX mixer the perfect globetrotter in both analog and digital worlds.


That looks pretty cool...

 Ya think?!?!  

I don't know much about either..... I'm what you'd call a "mixer virgin"....... still learning to mess with the one I just bought- which is, btw, a Behringer. (PMH2000)

So I'm not even gonna bore you with giving any opinions- I really have none to give.

But, man, put your helmet on & make sure your safely belted in,  LOL .......

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...no doubt.  

Didn't know of or had a chance to use the new series at all.  Sounds like they are trying to do another confusion with the "ONYX" series from Mackie however, "XENYX".  Hopefully they'll get their (@$%&#!) together & make this series reliable from the get go.....but we'll see.

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I have a Yamaha MG16/6FX mixer that I have used for almost a year now and it has performed flawlessly.

Having toyed with buying a Behinger mixer before I decided on the Yamaha, I cen tell you my observations:

#1: First and foremost, the Yamaha just looks and feels more sturdy and better built, because it is!!

#2: The onboard FX on the Yamaha mixer is much higher quality than the Behinger FX. It was about 4 years ago that Yamaha decided to integrate their actual FX processors into their FX mixers. It isn't as good as a $200 external FX component, but it is more than adequate for karaoke use in my opinion. The Behinger FX are pretty weak, and hard to subtlely mix into the overall sound.

#3: The mic pre-amps on the Yamaha are top-notch. I have never needed to use this and maybe never will, but if you plan on doing any recording or using a condensor mic for any reason, the Yamaha mic pre-amps are far superior to those on the Behinger.

That's about all of the difference. I think the difference between these two is a TRUE case of "you get what you pay for." If the Behinger has all you need, go for it, but for the $$, I think the Yamaha mixer is a much better value.

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I already purchased the Behringer UB 1832 and used it once, and it seemed to do a great job at the party that I did.  I am slightly worried about reliablity as I think my business will be 100% mobile, rather than set at a single venue.  (I do have it mounted in a tank-like SKB gig rig, but moving and loading in the vehicle, etc may cause a problem with internals getting bounced around)  

I am also in the process of upgrading the system of the current bar that I am working in. (they have their own setup)  So I was going to use the UB 1832 for them because it will be in a fixed location.  I was going to upgrade to that Yamaha possibly, but then I saw that NEW behringer and the new features are very appealing to me.  Appealing enough to give it a shot I think.  Hopefully if their were any issues with Behringer as far as internals burning up, they got that fixed with this new upgraded model.  Ahhh.... I guess we will just have to wait and see....  :oh yeah:

Sorry, but the NEW Behringer is actually just a new paint job and reworded ad-copy....Please note that only one or two include the USB interface, the rest is the same old UB series just painted a different color and marked up 10-20% or more in price.

And yes, I am sure of this.

Now, does that mean they aren't worth the money?....No, it doesn't....But I hope you don't get sold only cause they used the word "NEW!" to convince you.

You must be Uli.

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Ughh...No Beavis.  It was a direct cut and paste from the site.

How are you [glow=orange]sure[/glow] of this?  Seems they don't even have them out yet...?

Their website says all of these models come with USB interface:  

 XENYX 2442FX  

 XENYX 2222FX  

 XENYX 1832FX  

 XENYX 1622FX  

 XENYX 1222FX  

 XENYX 1204FX  

It also seems the effects processor is different, because the old one came with 99 "Virtualizer effects" and the new one claims 100 effects.  And it isn't calling them virtualizer either.  Also they claim a new type of equalizing effect “British EQ” ...

Hell, I don't know...

British EQ isn't anything new -
"British EQ" Can be loosely defined as any equalizer circuit that is designed and built in a way that emulates (in design or sound or both) the classic EQ circuits from the legendary mixers that came out of England in the 1950's, 60's and 70's. Soundcraft, Amek, Neve, Trident, and many other brands achieved legendary status during those years because engineers and producers liked their sound, and in particular liked the performance and sound of their equalizers. During the 1980's and 90's less expensive products began to show up from other parts of the world. British EQ was thus coined as a marketing term that became used by many of the English companies to combat the less expensive products. They felt that by making the distinction that not all mixers and EQ circuits sound the same they could maintain market share even at higher prices. By all accounts the idea worked because there is still today quite a bit of mystique around the concept of British EQ.

excerpt from http://www.sweetwater.com/expert-center ... -BritishEQ

It is interesting that Behringer just started using the "British EQ" on the XENYX series after Mackie started using it on the ONYX series.

Also all of their "99" effect models had 100 effects, 00 was an effect with 99 being the last = 100!  They may not say it's the Vitualizer anymore, but i'd be willing to 1000:1 odds, it isn't any different.

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Yes I am certain of it....Download the owner's manuals for each like I did and you will see for yourself.

Their "NEW" 1832 and the 1222 are identical to the old 1832 and 1222 UB series except for paint....Read the fine print closely and you will see that the USB connection is not included on most in the series.

Like Lonman said, the British EQ is just marketing hype...ALL makers use the same kinda hype every day....Nothing has changed except the paint and the wording of the ads.

The price went up to reassure you that it is in fact a "new mixer series".

Hey, i own Behringer mixers....I know what I am looking at.

All the USB adapter is, is an audio interface with RCA ins/outs that can be used on ANY mixer.

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Thanks for the input. I ordered the Yamaha MG16FX/6

Behringer is a company with no direction other than to make syuff cheap and look like a comparable better product.

Their new line of products include music controllers, sound cards, and guitars. It is all they had at the last industry show. They have almost given up on manufacturing Pro DJ equipment. They have been trying to ship there DJ controller and Software for 2 years now.

I can't trust the company with their FCC compliance issues, and inablity to provide support for the products they currently manufacture.

By Buying Behringer products, you are feeding a beached whale.