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As long as both understand that it's just a friendship w/ or w/out benifits there shouldn't be any tension.   Or make sure that she's a batter on the same side, like I used to have as a good friend before she moved.

And, to my own thoughts, like hunting, fishing, driving, CPR, lifegaurd, etc, a marriage license should also have an expiration date.

That idea has merit!....All that remains is determining the duration of same....Any term shorter than "death do us part" would be an improvement.

I've accepted the fact i'll never get out of this world alive, but it would be really depressing to think I had to die married.

Well, first of all...you dating is pretty dayum funny, Mrs. Sharon!!  

Now, see, I DID make the mistake of marrying someone I worked with...in fact, she was my direct supervisor for a while (the first one, Isis...the one that doesn't count )   We were both looking for new jobs two weeks later, and she and I split up six weeks after that...young, dumb,...you know how it ends!  

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Three fastest forms of communication around here...telephone, television, and tell-a-Sharon!!  Jeez, lady, is no secret safe with you?  

On topic:  That's what it all comes down to...is the relative comfort levels of the two main folks involved, and whether or not those comfort levels are compatible!

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I'm not married and nowhere even remotely close, but I have to agree. There should definately be an expiration date!
That way, If I ever do get roped into it, I've got a way out if I need it.

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Ahem.......I wasn't too secure about my outpouring here at first, but I can say, I like where this is going!
Expiration dates? Friends with benefits? 1st marriage doesn't count?
Dudes and dudettes......I'm afraid I made a terrible mistake here though. This post was sort of a test to find out if someone was spying on me here, and sadly, I do think there is some espionage. I'm not sure if it's my wife, or one of her sisters, a sister-in-law, or whoever, but just the reaction I received from my wife when I called home late in the evening while out of state on my job was very revealing.
She was sobbing uncontrollably, and while questioning her sadness, it seemed that she was mentioning some of the same stuff that I typed here.....what a coincidence.  :no:
But she won't tell who the culprit is, so I guess the culprit is me, I'm the dirty dog here.
Proving my point that someone who pretends to not know certain things or how to do them will go to great lengths to deceive and intentionally milk a good thing for all it's worth. This is a bad situation, but a possible turning point for me, no matter if another woman is involved. Hell, I even said I don't know where I stand with this other woman in the beginning here, except for slight flirtation, and it's not that big of a deal, if she's not attracted to me like I am to her, I'll get over it, but that won't make me despise her. There's been alot of miscommunication from the beginning, neither one of us will come right out and say what we really feel, so this could all be in my head, this could all be a product of my vivid imagination.
One thing's for sure though, I'm not trusted by my wife, and it's very hurtful, maybe hurtful enough for me to want to stray.
Thank you all for your input here, whether or not it was relevant to this situation. I enjoy a good laugh like everyone else.
Oh, and Kappy....you're not a serial killer are you?  :shock:  Just kiddin'!!

My third wife placed a keylogger on my computer.....that really ripped it with me when I discovered it.....But she went farther and got into my favorites and surfed around to my favorite forums and made post as if it were me....The keylogger revealed all my passwords to my hotmail and my forums and all that stuff....It apparently went on for months before I discovered it...Yep, all she got out of her trouble was nothing....She saw I didn't have any internet girlfriends nor dissed her anywhere....She also lost me and all of my trust in her.

That's nothing new in here... Some of us are notorious for doing that

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Nah,  I'm just a thread killer

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I'm curious, quite honestly....Are there any stats on what percentage of the population that's married really wants to be ?  or thought first prior to getting married ?    Seems that about 25% tops really wants to be married...the rest either feel they shouldn't be alone, or they are afraid to be alone.. Do people marry each other ?  or fantasy that marriage is going to be a panacea for all that ail's them ?  MANY marry to get taken care of.

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Yep, that trust thang is pretty big on my list too.

When someone lies to me, they show me they don't trust me....they also steal from me....What do they steal? They steal my chance to forgive them and to accept them, that's what they steal....but unlike any other theft, it's them they are stealing from. I would rather they reject me outright than doubt me.

I hate jealousy. I hate lies. I hate when my heart can't be trusted to beat for hers if/when she might need it.

I think those in our culture that have "learned" Keith, live in fear,  from that point on it becomes a downward "selffulfilling prophecy" spiral.

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You know, it ocurred to me,  I just do this very very well,  it's what I was born to do ! and as a result,  it's a comfort zone.. People usually feel comfortable in area's they have a greater aptitude for.  This is my niche

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Your last husband was 8 years older than you?...Wow, my last wife was 25 years younger than me!...and the one before that was 14 years younger....My first wife tho, was only 2 years younger than me....As you can see, i tend to marry them younger and younger....Mostly because I discovered younger gals look better neked..... and being such, they tend to keep me home where I belong....The trouble with all that tho, is the younger they are, the less they cook and clean now a days.

I guess it's true that you just can't have it all.

Exactly keith. I agree, for me anyway. When i realized that the way he behaved was making ME behave in a way i didn't like...we just went our seperate ways.  I can tell ya...losing that 225 pounds was the best thing i ever did...and a quick weight loss program called divorce was worth it!...

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Yep,

Well since we are confessing, I'll admit to my biggest fetish....Nothing turns me on more than to come home from work and hear dishes rattling and smell supper cooking and to see her standing in the kitchen....I guess the next biggest turn on was the sound of any major appliance operating and the smell of pinesol.

I'm serious....whenever I came home to that, I would chase her down and rip at her...It was a caveman kinda thing for me to come home and see my woman nesting...But once the house started getting dirty and the laundry piled up and I was eating take home food, she couldn't interest me even after I injected viagra directly into my heart.

I guess i need to go out of country if I want to find a new soul mate.

At least there's one on earth for you... There's no soulmate for me on this plane of existence....






That's what I assumed,  you have about 3-4 years on me.. Part of your Email DOB ?  or age ?  Actually that would work in either case..

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Seriously tho Keith,  you are the youngest old fart I've ever run into yet..

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