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SwingcatKurt
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:28 pm |
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Rap/Hip-hop can be good if it has a strong dance groove and isnt filled with repulsive language. Dance music is dance music. Waht is INTOLERABLE is GANGSTA THUG hard rap, stuff like Insane Clown Posse, and any one of the others that are simply UNLISTNEABLE and just so PATENTLY OFFENSIVE that there really is no redeeming value at all. Now what do I consider "Good" rap, most old-school rap(Boogie down productions, Public Enemy, NWA, KRS-1, Grandmaster, LLCoolJ, Digital Underground, Salt & Peppa, Digable Planets, Me Myself and I, Run DMC} stuff taht was commercially palatable, had a good dance groove and wasnt pattently offensive. As to present day---Usher dance songs are good, In Da Club, Yeah, Black Eyed Peas, Tupac, certain Snoop-Dog/Dr. Dre cuts---again anything with a good dance groove to it. Of late I've developed a interest in REGGAETON--Latin Hip-hop.
Not much for CW music. Just never grew up with it. Dont listen to classical. Cant tolerate Techno, Acid, Trance or most of the gutteral Thrash Rock. Never really devloped much of a taste for HARD ROCK or Speed Metal. But most of the time when I listen to the radio or CD player its jazz or blues. Also have started listening to alot of Salsa dance music.
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Lonman
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:34 pm |
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BlueStainedShoes @ Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:31 am wrote: Though, Opera & most forms of Classical would run a reallllllyyyyy close 2nd & 3rd.
Man I LOVE classical. But I do love rock more.
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pflugerville
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:37 pm |
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Crystal @ Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:19 pm wrote: My personal opinion: if the artist can't READ music.... they should be banished!
even the song i sent you, crystal? i rather LIKED the lyrics on that one! :reddevil:
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:11 pm |
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If you want to get into Jazz, develope dexterity, you study Bach for years, and learn the Hanon exercizes. You also drill for at least 1/2 hour per day on those (*%*&%$%) two-8 Major,Natural, Harmonic, and Melodic minor scales. It's NOT fun, it's tough as nails..But some of the fastest fusion guitarists, and keyboard players are grounded in classical, from classical you can go just about anywhere (and do it well) in Western Music. There is NOTHING Slouchy about Classical music. Some of the Liszt Hungarian Rhapsodies are pretty damn close to rock and roll... FLambouyant, and ladies swooned.... MANY types of classical music, some of the Chopin preludes I admit bore me, some classical is pretty boring when you're energetic, and most classical I won't listen to now, just because I drifted away from it...Also because when I'm tired, I like the sound of NOTHING....no radio, or anything...Just air filters going....Yet I'd never say "I don't like classical", there's ALOT of it out there, and although I'm often not in the mood for it, It's like a mathematician saying "I hate Algebra", it's too much of an integral part of the language to not give proper credit too... CLassical remains a sophisticated area of western music, Love it, or not....That *IS* music composition at it's finest even today. Free rap also isn't easy...Some of these folks to come up with that type extemporaneous prose at lightening speeds is improv that's tough to do...Yet it's alot of that Gangsta cRap we hear, and not music IMHO.... Rap is just yacking away to rhythm...I suppose it's called music, but SHEEESH, it's just prose IMHO, and rhythmic poetry...Not easy in many cases, yet nothing melodically, and harmoneously pleasing either..IMHO
As to reading ? For studio perhaps, and tougher styles, Combo work, Orchestral, Opera, etc....yet many of the finest musicians never read... A good ear, and creative imagination can produce some gorgeous music.. It's not requisite a musician can read. Similarly you get these supposedly gifted musicians who are amazing with sheet music in front of them, take that away, and they are empty.... To me that's about as much talent as the great artist who can only "paint by numbers", these people are great technician's, yet to me that's a very one dimensional aspect of musicianship...Classical music used to be that way...Pre-Suzuki, in classical training there was NO room for "ear" aspects of musicianship, playing was strictly technical, all was in the Schirmer's composition, including aspects of articulation, and what they called "With feeling" IMHO, was just canned....
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Jian
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:22 pm |
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RAP ........................ =Rape
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Preditor74
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:06 pm |
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Ok get's ready....
Country
*Ducks and covers*
My two least favorite genres are Country and Rap/Hip Hop, HOWEVER, I can tolerate Hiphop. Country on the other hand...I just cannot stand!!! Every country singer sounds the same to me and I just cannot stand these types of songs.
I am just really ignorent about it...my friend tells me I should listen to old school country...not the new Hip Country "I Love This Bar" "Ride a Horse Save a Cowboy" crap...but the whole cowboy things just really turns me off...
*Goes back to ducking and covering*
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Leathco
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:38 am |
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Preditor74 @ Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:06 pm wrote: Ok get's ready....
Country
*Ducks and covers*
If it makes ya feel better, I hate country too. That's the big thing around here though, so I do what brings the money in. Hopefully I can get the metal scene around here to pick back up eventually, as I can easily do around 8 metal shows a year and draw a good crowd.....unfortunately metalheads don't drink enough (surprisingly!)
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Babs
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:57 am |
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I think it is a generational and regional influence.
It seems most people from the southern states like country.
The music you grow up listening to influences you a lot. I grew up in the Chicago area.
We didn't even have a country music station to listen to.
I'm a rock and blues girl myself.
I do enjoy some of the newer country, but I think it is because the style of country has changed a lot. Redneck woman - country rock.
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robdogkaraoke
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:25 am |
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Me I hate rap especially if the person *singing* LOL it can't rap , also some of those annoying south park songs. I living in Montreal also have to endure a lot of really bad french song those ones will drill into your head after a while.
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eben
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:27 pm |
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Well, I can't say I have a least favorite music. I like all genres of music and listen to all if possible. I grew up in San Francisco bay area almost all of my life. We have pretty diverse music in this area.
The part of the west coast rap/hip hop started their root in east bay, i.e. Oakland so a lot of that gets played here. The central valley area, an hour or two away, is mostly farming community and tends to have more country style music played there. San Francisco has world class symphony so classical is pretty big. The musicals here in San Fran is second only to NY and they have had several pre broadway opening of shows here. Huge latin community around here so a lot of that gets play. There is a large fan base for jazz and blues, with several musical venue specializing in those music. There is even a venue in this area for Bluegrass music.
Some of the major musical influences that started here with people who originated it. Some examples like: folk rock with the Starship, 70s rock with Journey, modern punk like the Green Day, Carlos Santana, Sister Sledge, Huey Lewis, etc. etc.
So, being around all this music, it's hard not to listen to the best of each genre and learn to like it whether rap or country or classical.
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marty3
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:23 am |
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In the places I frequent, urban/rap tunes will generally kill a show. Old school okay - Baby Got Back, Ice Ice baby type of tunes. Personally, I can't stand much of the newer stuff, but that aside, it's not very easy for most to do right IMO.
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atxklown
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 7:14 pm |
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It could just be where I go to, but I get a good response when I do "Get Low" from Lil Jon and Yin Yang Twins or any Beastie Boys or Kanye West tune. Plus here in Austin there's a Krunkaoke show, a karaoke show that only has Hip Hop & R&B songs. And nothing funnier seeing fellas in the caucasion persuasion acting like they're from the streets. I'm waiting for a Sprint commercial to happen seeing the Poser squad there.
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pflugerville
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 7:16 pm |
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atxklown @ Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:14 pm wrote: It could just be where I go to, but I get a good response when I do "Get Low" from Lil Jon and Yin Yang Twins or any Beastie Boys or Kanye West tune. Plus here in Austin there's a Krunkaoke show, a karaoke show that only has Hip Hop & R&B songs. And nothing funnier seeing fellas in the caucasion persuasion acting like they're from the streets. I'm waiting for a Sprint commercial to happen seeing the Poser squad there.
where's that show, ATX? i need to check it out
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UncleFire
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 3:32 pm |
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If we're really talking about banishing some form of music -- For me it would be....
- "Dance" Music - the junk they play at raves -- things like Trance, House, and that techno-compu-generated crap just is basically one sampled, generated loop after another. And I can't believe the DJs get so popular.
- Rap - some of it. Old school stuff as mentioned before is pretty good -- Run DMC (oh-walk this way, tricky), fat boys, beasty boys. Basically stuff with a good beat and some melody is ok by me. Alot of hard core stuff just is mush-mouthed (can't enunciate worth beans) youths "singing" to some programmed beats and sampled snippets.
- Country - wouldn't kill it but is least fav except for some stuff. some old school stuff is REALLY good but also some that led to rock. Johnny Cash-- awesome! Some more rock oriented country is ok by me. btw-- notice how there's a TON of karaoke stuff for country. I recently saw a book that had like 2+ pages of one artist - I think it was garth brooks. Sheesh!
(ok, don't shoot me)
That said- I wouldn't banish stuff as that would be censorship which I'm against. don't like it-- don't listen. but keep an open mind to sample new stuff ya just may like it.
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Lady Di
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:06 pm |
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I am British, British don't do country. However, since becoming a born again Canadian, I'm kinda getting used to it. I LOVE all music from classical to punk (old and new). I'll listen to any old c**p !!!! LOL
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:30 pm |
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I would have to say "hard-core" or "gansta" RAP music. I see no need to glorify the "gansta" lifestyle; where killing is the only way to get respect and degrading women by calling them outside of their names. I shake my head when I hear these urban radio stations play these songs and some don't even bother to "bleep" out the foul language. But hey, that's just my opinion.
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KKid
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:05 am |
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I love Country.....it speaks of my life and the lives of the crowd I sing too......the honky tonks I frequent resemble "I Love This Bar", I also like 70s and some 80s rock....this too gets them going although I can't sing but a very few numbers.....it's the twang thing......
Rap(crap)......except there again songs like "Funky Cold Medina"...and "Strokin'" also have an effect on these venues......
the grunge stuff I don't understand a lot of it....maybe my age but a lot of it sounds like the singer is in real pain......then there is that stuff that the singer jumps up and down while he or she is singing.....makes the discs skip......
yes good old honky tonk get drunk and get laid music......now that's what I'm talkin' about.....I have a shirt that goes over well it reads...."Save A Barstool Ride A Drunk".....redneck humor......really as long as it's about drinkin', cheatin', hurtin' and things like that honky tonk crowds love it....
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Spotted Cat
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:44 pm |
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I would have to say the hard core rock. Although I am happy that we appeal to all types of singers in our club, that is one sound I could do without. It really isn't enjoyable to the majority of listeners. In fact it is mostly growling, grunting and screaming to my ears. It is available to those who want to do it and hey, their having fun!
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