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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 7:56 am 
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I went to a Baptist Christian School from 1982-1989 and we had bomb threats there about 2-3 times a month.....guess they just mean more these days with all the FEAR in the world....

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I don't know what's scarier... the continued bomb threats, or the fact that they didn't take them seriously in the past! As a parent I'd hate to gamble like that! And finding out a church didn't take a threat seriously enough is concern enough for me.

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True Matt, Some things MUST be taken seriously regardless of how desensitized people become due to frequency. When it comes to death threats there's no grey area. (Well, outside of an America Online chatroom that is)

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Many of the people who are on school boards & such have kids who go to CHS, and I think they were made to sit down & think up a "better plan".


Don't we have safety experts in our government, and task forces that already know and implement plans in such an event ?  As a parent, I'd want the expert's letting me know what's best...One would think "the correct way to handle such a situation" is known in all schools by now.. If it's not than THAT'S scary IMHO.. Naturally, I'd want to be informed, yet last thing I'd feel comfortable with is some little PTA implementing such safety measures..


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Maybe I am a bit old fashioned, but my kids were still playing with Matchbox cars & Barbie dolls at that age



I was hollowing out Hardy Boy's books with exacto knives, and bringing gum and candy to school to bribe the bigger 6th grade bullies.  Playboy's too..

(That might've actually been when I was college-age, don't recall)

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Just to clarify, I wouldn't say that the bomb threats were not taken seriously back in my day, as we were always evacuated from the school, but I think it is more accurate to say that there was much more PERCIEVED chance then that the bomb threats were almost certainly a prank.

Today, I think people jump the gun and PERCEIVE that there is a greater chance that bomb threats are more likely not threats. The perception has changed due to the climate of fear we live in, even if the statistics of how many bomb threat are actually bombs have not.

Basically, the glass was 1/2 full ifor most of the population n 1982, and the glass is certainly 1/2 empty these days to most peeps.

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back in your day, terrorists only killed a single passenger or two on an airplane... not flying four of them as flying bombs...

back in your day, suicide bombers weren't really around (other than the Japanese Kamikazee pilots), and women and children weren't targetted for the most part.

The world we live in is much different than it was back when we were young.

In the world I grew up in, you could get into a fist fight and not have to worry about a sore loser bustin' a cap in yo a**... you could actually learn something from someone, and gain a friend, if not a trustworthy adversary.

I don't think the schools are overreacting at all. You have to take each and every threat independantly and QUITE seriously. That's exactly what the real enemy wants... us to become lax... the way we were on Sept 10th, 2001


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This is an excellent point Matt brought up, and unfortuneately true. In the 50's and 60's we might've feared getting bullied at times, we might've felt sick before school from some type of anxiety, yet we didn't fear getting shot and killed by someone that didn't like us, or someone that freaked out who happened to be under 10 years old shooting randomly, or even getting killed by drive-by stuff. We didn't even fear this happening in High School in most suburban and rural areas (I don't know about the cities), yet according to my folks Father-NYC/Mother-S. Philadelphia, gun violence in schools was VERY rare, unheard of to both of them during their days. Sure we had real fears that kid's have, even that adults have.. I didn't get up to leave my tray in the cafeteria, people were getting dosed with Acid constantly in those days, (early 70's things were pretty bad) yet still....We didn't fear getting shot. Ocassionally it happened to a few while at home bored; stupid stuff like playing in their parents drawer's and doodling with a gun at home, yet not malicious attempts made on classmates (kids in my area didn't grow up respecting guns, most were scared &*^less of them, they hardly knew what they were) in New Jersey, and CT where I grew up, these weren't hunting areas. Gun's weren't brought to school... Had *I* done that, it'd be my father beating the crap out've me that I feared... We didn't believe we could get away with ANYTHING because we were untouchable as minor's...Many of us were scared %&#*less of our parent's... There wasn't all this PC stuff back in those days. Granted, abuse is bad ALWAYS... I won't get into my feelings regarding spankings and stuff like that, yet kid's weren't taken from their parent's for disciplining them either, VERY VERY few were ever senslessly beaten by their parent's.. Yet we did have enough fear to keep us in line. We learned what consequences to wrong actions were, and cared.

MANY of us even as young as 8 were hitchhiking safely home from elementary school miles away... Walking from friends at night miles away without fearing abduction or homocide. Bringing a gun to school might've been a way a few wished they could deal with being a victim, but it DIDN'T happen.. Kid's flipped out, sure.... Yet they were never so detached as to feel they could depersonalize other humans and steal a gun and kill, there was no option of ordering one on the internet while both parents were at work.  I don't know what's changed, yet some things were never an option.. If I said to my parent's that I wanted to "divorce them", or "sue them" when I was 11 (each time something didn't go my way), my dad would probably laugh at me, and hurl me thru a window faster than I could get to a phone to call the divorce lawyer.. We did things kid's did, built Este's, and Centuri model rockets, launched the family hamster in the big bertha taking photo's.....Yet getting ahold of our parent's guns, bringing them to school was NEVER an option, just a dark angry thought...

There's a much larger element of depersonalization now-adays. Stress always existed in the world.  Whether many kids don't get enough attention, are being brought up in an "arcade game" type technological world that's conducive to withdrawing into fantasy as opposed to interacting directly with others after school, or joining in sports activities, (the old family board games, etc) I haven't a clue why there's noticeably more violence among younger kids... Yet something kept the baby-boomers from fearing gun violence as children..Older generations too.

Yep,  There are domestic terrorist's too.... The two Columbine kid's wrote of chartering a plane and doing what "Bin Laden's" group did.. Thing's have changed right here on our own turf.. Why ? We can only speculate..
It IS a different world now.. We've learned what can happen when a serious threat is ignored, We ignored 9-11 type warnings at least twice in the 90's. Again in Y2K, we were warned, and the tragedy finally happened.  Not a good world to have our head's in the sand in..

JMO, I haven't a clue what's wrong today.

Incidently, Bomb threats ALWAYS were taken seriously,  They always ended in school being closed or evacuated for at least 1/2 day while bomb squads went into the school (depending on size of school, and other factors).. Yet after enough the kid's and parents become abit less sensitized to them... My guess is too, that when the School nurse, or elementary school secretary says to the police,  "Yeah, sounded like a 9 year old trying to disquise his voice and sound adult", they of course take precautions, yet might not panic quite so much. After enough of what appears to be "copycat" incidents, those involved start to fear the ocurrances less... Procedurally, things never lighten up, nor should they. Same with fire alarms, etc. People become less sensitized if this happens 2X per month.  Just how our psychology works. These are NEVER ignored, or shrugged off. Currently, we are living in a world where people ARE highly sensitized, and some in cities are affected with PTSS from events within the last few years...Naturally there's a different climate today. In the 1960's hearing the word "bomb" was NO less scary, believe me...It didn't take 9-11 to make kid's and parent's fear for their lives. I'd have hated to be working or living in a NYC high-rise, or ANY skyscraper following 9-11..Real scary stuff. Bomb threat or not... After seeing those playbacks, and photo's MANY were and are terrified.

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wow I just read the thread - I'm glad everything turned out okay. My heart dropped as I was reading - being a mom too I really feel for you.
How terrifying for the kids.
You'll have to let us know how they punished those boys.

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