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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 4:11 pm 
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[font=Verdana][/font]Hello everybody. Anybody have any comments on the Numark KMX01? I'm updating my system to get back into the business and like the looks of this mixer. Anyone using one to give me some feedback? Appreciate any comments.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:39 am 
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I'd rather go for a stand alone mixing desk and karaoke player instead of this all in 1 unit.

Here's a link to a threat that was discussing that spesific player.


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The peeps I know that have that player love it, mostly because of it's convenience and ease of use. Numark makes good products (#1 in DJ equipment) and has great customer service, so I would buy that pretty confidently.

The only drawback I see is that being a stand-alone unit you could probably not rack that system, so it would probably be best suited with powered speakers as opposed to add-on components like amps, external effects, etc.

Also, just note that there is only 1 XLR/1/4" mic input, the other two mic inputs are 1/8" for some weird reason, so you'd need adapters for that.

Otherwise, it looks pretty good!!

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The other draw-back is the echo effect control on the performer’s mic inputs. I still think going for a mixer with external/internal effects  and a rack mount cdg player would give you more joy and the option to expand later (which you will) LOL


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:04 am 
I am always wary of all-in-one units, even for home use, simply for the reason that if one part of the setup goes out- mics, EQ, inputs/outputs, player etc, then the ability of the whole machine is dimished (depending on which part went out).  with component arrangements (seperate amp, player, mixer, mic controls etc) if one piece goes bad then it is much easier to swap it out or replace.  it also allows you to upgrade individual pieces of the setup as needed... just a thought...- tig


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I'm with Tig on this.  I have always preferred components over an all in one.  

Don't get me wrong, all in ones can be fine too, and I have bought them.  Actually the first karaoke player we bought for home use was an all in one (tape and cd, so that should say how long ago....).  When we decided to upgrade, we went with seperate components.


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Separate mixer & player as well.

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Thanks for the input all, I'm upgrading my system to get back into the business, although it took a divorce to be able to do it. :dancin: I actually get to spend my tax return this year on some new components. What is a good rack mount cdg player. I've been using a JVC 3 drawer but I want everything mountable to save time and energy moving equipment. I'd like to upgrade my pa a little, was considering a peavey amp, 100 amps or so and some additional speakers, but I haven't really seen any rack mount cdg players available here locally. You are all right about the all in one theory. The JVC went down recently, lost the laser eye and won't read a disc, biggest reason to upgrade. Looking forward to running my own business again.


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What is a good rack mount cdg player.
JVC or RSQ

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I've been using a JVC 3 drawer but I want everything mountable to save time and energy moving equipment.
Use the JVC/RSQ 303/22/333/222 Karaoke Machine/Player Rack Ears

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I'd like to upgrade my pa a little, was considering a peavey amp, 100 amps or so and some additional speakers, but I haven't really seen any rack mount cdg players available here locally.
A 100 amp amplifier?


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It's been ages since I last bought a rack.. Can someone suggest a decent rack for home use that will suffice for light portable use ?  I know SKB has a few out that are abit more money...Not sure if there are other lesser expensive makes with a decent gauge metal that anyone can recommend in todays market...for around a 6-12 spaces total.... Also something that might be stackable, or added onto.. I'd rather go with rack now and consolidate some space....Like I said, I know there's alot "out there", yet I don't know what's junk vs what's a protective decent grade metal..


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If your looking for LIGHT WEIGHT unfortunately SKB is the way to go.
I've used many of their racks from the mini-gig rig to 4/6/8 space racks.

Now I'm using the DJ combo case and love it .

Stick with SKB and you shouldn't be dissappointed


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Sorry Allstar, I meant 100 watts, was very early this morning checking messages and such. :asleep: 100 watts is usually plenty of power for any gig I've done in the past and don't see me doing a show at Ceasars Palace anytime soon. Excessive amplification can be eliminated by proper use of an EQ to maximize low end and still have mids and highs enough to sound right without a huge amp. Did it for a couple of years with a 60 watt, but clipped the amp at times at larger venues. If I need more than 100, I need to go ahead and book a band.


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StickManPlus @ Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:48 am wrote:
Sorry Allstar, I meant 100 watts, was very early this morning checking messages and such. :asleep: 100 watts is usually plenty of power for any gig I've done in the past and don't see me doing a show at Ceasars Palace anytime soon. Excessive amplification can be eliminated by proper use of an EQ to maximize low end and still have mids and highs enough to sound right without a huge amp. Did it for a couple of years with a 60 watt, but clipped the amp at times at larger venues. If I need more than 100, I need to go ahead and book a band.


Yeah this is a very common misconception.  More watts don't really mean louder, more power means more efficiency for your speakers.  Say you have a 100 watt amp & your speaker handles 250 watts program power, you might think you are completely fine & will never hurt them when in actuallity, this is when you could blow the speakers the most.  Reason being is when the amp hits it's maximum output (of 100 watts, sure it may go a little higher than that, but it is also doing it with distortion, you may not even realize it - but your speakers do.  Rule of thumb is to get an amp twice rated your speakers rms power - so in the case of the 250 watt speakers, your amp should be pushing about 500 watts.  Now again, it isn't for the "volume", your sound will be cleaner, fuller, more efficient to the speaker & safer as well because now if you NEED to turn up the volume past the "100" watt mark, your speaker is not going to be strained because it is still receiving nice clean power instead of clipped distortion.
Over eq'ing may sound like the right answer, but this in itself can hurt the speakers as well.  The "large" amp push the sound without the need of over eq'ing.

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... (sorry for hijacking your post)   I am a newbie in "racks" and need to buy one for home use.  What's the height of one rack space?  I have Crown CE1000 (5-1/4" H), BBE 362 (1-3/4") and RSQ MK-22 (3-1/2").  How many rack spaces required?  and would you recommend more spaces for future addition?

Any comment on this one?
http://www.skbcases.com/product/dj_case ... 106DJ.html

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ca ra ok @ Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:20 am wrote:
... (sorry for hijacking your post)   I am a newbie in "racks" and need to buy one for home use.  What's the height of one rack space?  I have Crown CE1000 (5-1/4" H), BBE 362 (1-3/4") and RSQ MK-22 (3-1/2").  How many rack spaces required?  and would you recommend more spaces for future addition?

Thanks in advance!


The height of 1 rack space is 1 3/4".

The Crown is 3 spaces & the BBE is 1.  

The RSQ is approx 2 spaces - may have to remove feet on it to make it fit in rack.

May want to get an 8 space minimum - i'd probably opt for a 10 just for future processor space just in case.  If it's JUST for home use, you may want to get rack furniture - like the kind made for studios, but if you plan on moving it - even on occasion, then a standard rack will be the best bet.

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Well do you have a mixer or plan on getting one?  If so, then yeas this would be an ok choice, not much room for upgrades as the top is designed more for the mixer & not so much processing (unless they are very shallow processors).

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If this is going to be permanent I would consider building book case type racks.. The inner dimensions of an actual rack are 19 1/4 " and "L" rails like these can be used... I wouldnt mount the Crown in the same rack but if you do leave 1 rack space between it and others.

You can never have too much rack space....


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Jam, and all.. thanks..  

When I look in my music catalogues I find many options, with price variations, gauges of metal such as 11 or 12 gauge steel ??????   Quik Loc, Proel, SKB, and even MF (even seems to have their housebrand that's more affordable, of course after buying a few of their horrid guitar cases NEVER again a housebrand from them).. SKB is a name I've know for A LONG time, I suppose I should stick with them..

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May want to get an 8 space minimum - i'd probably opt for a 10 just for future processor space just in case.  If it's JUST for home use, you may want to get rack furniture - like the kind made for studios, but if you plan on moving it - even on occasion, then a standard rack will be the best bet.


I'll do karaoke in my delicate home theater and able to put them away when movie is on.  I think standard rack is favorable.  I'll search for an 8 or 10-space rack with mixer mount on top.

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Well do you have a mixer or plan on getting one?  If so, then yeas this would be an ok choice, not much room for upgrades as the top is designed more for the mixer & not so much processing (unless they are very shallow processors).


Yes, I have a Behringer UB1622FX-PRO mixer and another Mackie DFX-12 is on the way.  :yum:  If mount on top of the SKB 106DJ (or similar 8-10 space rack), will it take any bottom rack space?


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ca ra ok @ Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:47 pm wrote:
If mount on top of the SKB 106DJ (or similar 8-10 space rack), will it take any bottom rack space?


If the top stuff isn't too deep, then it shouldn't take anything from the bottom.

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Little rack story--- Back in December I special ordered a Oddesy slide style case
Thing looked SWEET - I pictured my JVC triple tray on the top slide 4 space rack  with my power conditioner.  I had my Behringer mixer on the slanted mixer case
my Peavey amp and my BBE 362 on the bottom - EVERYTHING FIT NICE --
ENTIRE CASE WAS WIRED ALL I HAD TO DO WAS PLUG IN THE POWER AND SPEAKERS AND OFF I WAS .......

I hooked it up all in my living room prior to going to my gig that night and I couldn't pick the dam thing up ---It was heavy that was one thing but the case was so BIG I couldn't get my arms around it !!!!

So i just returned it last week and got the SKB DJ shuttle and a 3 space rack for my amp - Mixer, JVC and power conditioner in the shuttle and the amp in the 4 space
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