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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:51 pm 
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I have an RSQ cdg player. I was thinking of upgrading to a VocoPro 40 gig hard drive media Jukebox..holds 10,000 songs ..very simple to use.$350.00 on DTSkaraoke.com.
Haven't heard anything bad about this one..Does anyone have any experiences with it? I don't do many gigs anymore..about 7 a year..and didn't wanna spend thousands on a laptop..
Also..I have never had a monitor speaker when i set up..do most of you KJs? I usually set up my speakers behind my system and angle them a bit..so the singer hears what the audience hears...somewhat..
Every karaoke gig that i was a customer at..the monitor doesn't really represnt whats coming out of the speakers...doesn't sound near as good..


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[glow=coral]Here is some info about it..I'm really torn on weather to get it or not..it is so much cheaper and easier to use that a laptop and hosting software.What are yalls opinions[/glow]?...40 GIG Hard Drive Media Player With Key Control

VocoPro is always on the cutting edge when it comes to technology and the 40G MEDIA-JUKEBOX is the latest development in Karaoke & Movie Entertainment. Simply transfer those Divx-encoded CDG, VCD or DVD collections to the MEDIA-JUKEBOX’s Hard Drive via the USB port on your computer. Then connect it to any TV and sound system. The build-in decoder will play all those media formats directly from the MEDIA-JUKEBOX. Quickly access your tracks for playback and free yourself from carrying around all those discs and your laptop. . Its mobility and versatility make the MEDIA-JUKEBOX unlike any other computer-based system in the industry.

With the 40G Hard Drive in VocoPro’s new MEDIA-JUKEBOX, you can store and play up to 10,000 DivX CDG Karaoke songs or 50 full-length DivX movies. The built-in MEDIA-JUKEBOX decoder supports DivX, DVD, VCD, CDG, MP3, and even Photo CDs for output. It’s simple with a USB 2.0 connection for ultra fast file transfer!


Supports DivX, DVD, VCD, Mp3, and Photo CD files for playback to any system
USB 2.0 connection for ultra fast file transfer
Built-in digital key controller for karaoke
40G hard-drive stores and plays your entire library of A/V files
Hard Drive Output Eliminates Skipping
Unique Reserve function allows you to cue up to 20 tracks for program while current track is playing
Firmware & Hard-Drive are upgradable
Super small size weighs less than 1 lb., so you can easily transport it anywhere
Connects directly to a TV and sound system without a computer
Includes full function remote, AC adapter, USB & AV cable


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voco-pro?? Best of luck to ya!


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If you're only doing 7 gigs a year why not just stick to CDG's and your RSQ?
If have to go discless -then just get an inexpensive DEDICATED desktop and go computerized.  I think you'll find the media jukebox more hassel and headache not to mention costly and limiting.


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JAMKARAOKE @ Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:56 pm wrote:
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If you're only doing 7 gigs a year why not just stick to CDG's and your RSQ?
If have to go discless -then just get an inexpensive DEDICATED desktop and go computerized.  I think you'll find the media jukebox more hassel and headache not to mention costly and limiting.
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As I understand it, the big drawback to that VocoPro jukebox thingamabobber is that you have to convert each and every track first from your CD+G to MP3+G, THEN to DIVX. This is going to take you couple of minutes PER TRACK for each conversion, so depending on how big your library is, you could be talking about months of setup time before you are even able to use that jukebox.

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My eyes are playing tricks on me, I thought I read JunkBox. I think the 40 gigs is quite limiting. I have a 300 gig hd, and I only have 48 gigs free on it.

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Lonnie @ Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:51 pm wrote:
I have an RSQ cdg player. I was thinking of upgrading to a VocoPro 40 gig hard drive media Jukebox..holds 10,000 songs ....


Ripped at the lowest quality.  What happens when you need more then the 40 GB?  It isn't upgradeable at all, once it's full, it's full.
You'd be better off getting a computer & hosting program - more versatile & expandable as your space needs grow.

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p.s.....you can buy a refurbished laptop at a reputable reseller around town with a 90-120 day warranty for around $250. Better, more versitile machine than the VocoPro for less $$$.

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Well..i am convinced not to go with the voco pro..
The only thing about gettin a laptop is that most hosting programs u should have 1 gig of ram...new sound cards..and all that other stuff..ect..(a new laptop)
I have 6000 songs..combined of cd and cdg..what size hard drive should i get?
I like the idea of a used cheap lap top..just don't know if it would accomadate?


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Lonnie @ Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:42 am wrote:
Well..i am convinced not to go with the voco pro..
The only thing about gettin a laptop is that most hosting programs u should have 1 gig of ram...new sound cards..and all that other stuff..ect..(a new laptop)
I have 6000 songs..combined of cd and cdg..what size hard drive should i get?
I like the idea of a used cheap lap top..just don't know if it would accomadate?


Well that's not true.  Sure it's better to have the fastest stuff possible & more ram, but the only real necessity is a dual video display capable video card.  Run ONLY a minimally loaded Windows, no bells or whistles, make sure no other program is running, 512 ram should suffice to get you going, the built in sound card should be just fine for awhile - can always upgrade later.  Hard drive get yourself a 200 gig minimum external USB.  That way you can transfer music from a main computer.  Don't need a new laptop, save some money & buy a slightly older model, use the internal hard drive for the hosting program & the external for the music.  When you get it, format the hard drive so nothing is loaded on it, reload Windows with the very most basic components to make it run - no games, no internet, no special networking, etc....

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So I would need to get a 200 gig external hard drive?..and the actual lap top could be 40 gig?..I thought of using some of the older karaoke hosting programs...such as cpdj..that requres less ram..I'm thinking that mtu hosting progam has way too many bells and whistles..(that most people don't bother with)


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MTU has a cheaper karaoke program. it is hoster lite. less than $100

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Lonnie @ Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:03 am wrote:
So I would need to get a 200 gig external hard drive?..and the actual lap top could be 40 gig?..I thought of using some of the older karaoke hosting programs...such as cpdj..that requres less ram..


You mean PCDJ?  Unless you already have it, it isn't any cheaper than Hoster as you need to get the PCDJ program & then get the karaoke add on.  Also heard from a couple here that it is a huge resource hog.

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I'm thinking that mtu hosting progam has way too many bells and whistles..(that most people don't bother with)


It was designed strictly for karaoke, it doesn't have anything out of the ordinary, uses wma compression over mp3 compression = better sound quality, is an all in one unit meaning you don't need a separate ripping program like all the others, writes to 1 file as opposed needing 2 separate files like mp3g (sure it can be zipped into 1 - which Hoster will play as well).  
But there are a couple other options out there as far as hosting programs that may fit your needs as well.

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Lonnie @ Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:03 am wrote:
So I would need to get a 200 gig external hard drive?..and the actual lap top could be 40 gig?..I thought of using some of the older karaoke hosting programs...such as cpdj..that requres less ram..I'm thinking that mtu hosting progam has way too many bells and whistles..(that most people don't bother with)



I am runnig Sax&Dottys on a 700Mhz machine with 128 MB ram and Win 98.  It has 2 video cards in it (one for me one for lyrics), external USB sound card, 20GB and 300GB hard drives, and works great.  So as you can see, there is noo need for a "large/fast" machine to run a karaoke show.  I have over 5,500 karaoke songs on it, and ove 11,000 DJ songs.  The searching is a little bit slower, then it would be on a faster machine, but not verry noticable.

If you do get a laptop, there are USB options for adding a 2nd "EXTENDED DESKTOP" screen for the lyrics.  That is if the laptop you get does not support EXTENDED DESKTOP.


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can a lap top with a good sound card ever have  better sounding audio than the original (cdg)wave file(assuming its played on a RSQ333)?..I have always heard that a wave file has the best quality audio..


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can a lap top with a good sound card ever have  better sounding audio than the original (cdg)wave file


Quality sound is only as good as the player it is played on. The laptop can sound just as good. considering the player is an rsq, yes, it can sound better if it is ripped properly, and you are setup properly. If you are saying is a .Kma or .Mp3 as good sounding as a wave, then yes, the .kma, amd .wma formats are the most efficient.

The computer advantage is that you dont have to handle hundreds of cdg's file, refile, and scratch, and have them stolen off the table.

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Lonnie @ Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:09 pm wrote:
can a lap top with a good sound card ever have  better sounding audio than the original (cdg)wave file(assuming its played on a RSQ333)?..I have always heard that a wave file has the best quality audio..


A WAV file is un compressed, and will always sound better than a compressed file (mp3, WMA, ect...)  but the change off is a WAV file is HUGE!!!!

IMHO...The question is not will it have a better/worse sound quality, but will anyone notice the difference between a actual CDg disc, and a compressed audio file played on a computer.  With a decent sound card, and a decent rip of the song, 95% of people can not tell the difference.  BTW...Lonman is in the 5% LOL

Do a comparison yourself...Rip out a song on different formats/bitrates/ect... and compare to the original CD.


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BTW...Lonman is in the 5%  


I guess I am in the 5% also...........

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