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CINDY!!! You play the flute???

ME TOO!!!


err.... well.... I USED to.... in Junior High and HS.... I should really get back into that! BE forwarned!! If I can't remember the fingering for a note, or need to learn a few tricks..... I'm e-mailing YOU!!

MOUAH!

ok... now all you gutter-minds.....

insert "band camp" joke here!  LMAO

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Crystal! I see that avatar! Ya STOP losin' weight gurly! Ya'll have nothin' to hug when I finally meet cha!

*plays flute too*  Actually, I'm better on sax and clarinet than flute, but I had to learn it for doubling in jazz band. and I *shudder* at the thought of metal clarinets Steven (just picturing a band of jr high kids playing on metal clarinets.. eeeeeeeek ).  I think the instrument can only enhance what skills the musician has.  So a REALLY great player can make a subpar instrument sound pretty darn good, but a well made insturment will only enhance their sound.. And for the amateur, the well made instument will only facilitate their learning b/c they will like more how they sound and have to do less manipulation.. jmo

awww Matt!! I could kiss ya fer that!  :hug:  But I'm not even in my healthy weight range yet! Few more pounds to go and I'm DONE!

METAL CLARINETS!!!! OHHH LORD!! Can you imagine???
Speaking of clarinets.... my neice plays. She's 14 and she's pretty good! I absolutely LOVE the sound! She could play Hot Crossed Buns and I'd LOVE it! Love Sax too!! Why the heck didn't I play one of those instruments?  :headscratch:

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Jazzy,  Metal clarinet's were often the student model clarinets and were common around 1920-1950, Surprizingly it wasn't the metal that gave the instrument a lesser tonal quality, but the construction.  Naturally it didn't offer the warmth of a decent Buffet, but these were often the marching band instruments...  There were, (surprisingly) PRO lines of the metal clarinet made as well:
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These clarinets actually play pretty well. Some of the better known pro-models were

Bettoney Silva-Bet
H.N. White Silver King
Selmer Pro Line
Conn Pro Line

Metal clarinet's also came in intermediate lines:

Bettoney Columbia
H.N. White Cleveland Model
Noblet
Selmer - Barbier or Bundy Lines
Boston Wonder

The above listed horns are worth fixing up, and are known to have a good sound. Within the past ten years these model's are quite in demand too....Collectible market has acknowledged them recently...They are better constructed than the cheap student grade metal clarinet made which might be worth $25-$50 dollars in pristine condition assuming recently over-hauled...

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I studied a few years of clarinet also Jazzy, but once I switched to Alto, Tenor, and Sop Sax... that ended the clarinet. It's tougher to play a clarinet after getting used to sax.... different embouchure. Clarinet isn't quite as easy IMHO....

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I agree.. Sax was definitely easier to pick up for me.. It's nice that saxes register key is an octave, so a low D fingered with the octave key is a middle D.  Not the dreaded clarinet 12ths . The only thing weird was the tuning (especially on the dreaded tenor) and getting the embouchure right on the bari which was something SO unfamiliar to me with that big ol' mouthpiece.  Yeah.. once I started playing sax more, my principal clarinet chops were gone .  I still have chops for clariniet, but they're more clarinet chops and I'd have to really concentrate on it again to get my old skillz back.  Clarinet embouchure really was a pain for me.. literally.. it's just so rigid and tight.  Those muscles sure get a workout!


I'd love to try a metal clarinet out to see how different they feel and what kind of tone they get.  I'd imagine they're not nearly as warm as wooden clarinets, but a bright sound that cuts through is useful too ..Like for marching as you said.. I could definitely see the metal clarinet there.. Projection is key for marching band, and the woodwinds are seldom heard (unless the composer purposefully thins everything out to feature them).  And definitely for jazz as well..   I remember that my college clarinet prof had a metal clarinet as a lamp .. thanks for the info

Jazzy, The few times I sat either next to, or in front of the baritone sax..I was amazed at how low it's register sounded given it's timbre...Isn't it hard to believe that that horn is only one octave lower than the Alto sax ?  Given the way it resonates. That's one powerfully loud low concert "C",  which I think is the A key on the bari sax ?   same note as the cello's lowest note ????  Yet the timbre of the baritone sax makes those notes vibrate my whole chest cavity..THAT'S ONE LOUD HORN... Isn't the bari an Eb horn ? Only sax in fact with an A key ?  Other's just go down as low as a Bb key ?  Those cost thousands of dollars too, My Selmer's cost enough as it is...yet the baritone is VERY expensive a horn....and I'd imagine having one worked on, repadded, or god forbid needing an overhaul would cost a fortune !!!!

I never really tried the bari sax....I was just amazed at how those lowest notes in it's range....felt like they were knocking into my chest when I sat right in front of that horn..  Have you ever seen a bass sax Jazzy ?  I never have...

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That's what I love about the bari.. it's tone.  I just fell in love with it's deep and song like 'voice'.  I think of it as the cello of the woodwind family.  Yes that is the low A extension and Bari players LIVE to get to play that note . ohh and yes indeedy, bari is an Eb horn like the Alto.  In all truthfullness, the bari is my favorite of the family to listen to.   I'm better on Alto playing-wise only b/c I've spent the most time on it, but I was fortunate to get to do some bari playing in jazz bands and quartets.  And YES.. I actually have seen a bass sax.  Our saxophone prof at my university had one in his office.  He took it out to play for me once when I was in a lesson with him.. OMG.. you think the bari rattled you?? this thing was pretty amazing.. If you like the bari, I suggest you look up jazz band tune "Quiet Time" which features a kick butt bari solo on it.. LOVE that song.. it starts out slow and sensuous, has a dizzying middle section and comes back down to a sweet finish..

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Thank you Jazzy,  I'm going to see if I can find a few audio samples on the internet(naturally they won't do the instrument's actual timbre justice) of the baritone and bass sax.... There's also a contrabass ?  WOW....




The sax family...from left to right

Contrabass Sax, bass Sax, Baritone Sax, Tenor, Alto, Soprano

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Here's an old standard done by 7 saxophones, covering the whole range of saxophones from the contrabass to sopranino... (which I always thought was referred to as a sopranette...anyway)..

http://www.nuclearwhales.com/dontmeanathing.html

(I wonder why they didn't break into a walking bass line into the song... probably not possible given a person's lung capacity when playing that sized horn)


The entire "Family of Saxophones" is featured - the tiny sopranino, the soprano, alto, tenor, baritone, and bass and the rare and monstrous 6'8" contrabass (described by The Los Angeles Times as "...an instrument with the stature of a power forward in the NBA and a pitch that makes a foghorn sound effeminate.") Together they create incredibly innovative music with a rich ensemble sound covering an amazing range of over six octaves.


(care to guess the starting price ranges of decent used contrabass saxophones  )

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That was a "Sa xappella" number  LOL

(even my woodwind humor blows)

On a more serious note, I've never given this serious thought, but it seems to me (and lord, I should know this answer by now being a musician), that woodwind instrument's might be louder than brasswind instrument's in a comparable register..Bari sax is louder than baritone horn I believe, even seemed to out-do sousaphone and tuba in terms of DB level..I wonder if the tubing of a musical instrument amplifies a reed mouthpiece, more-so than a standard brass instrument cup type mouthpiece...Even the alto, and tenor sax are VERY loud for a condo or apartment to practice...Yet the trumpet doesn't seem to disturb as many people.. Unless it's just the timbre of the instrument, and not actually volume



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Is this what you mean ?  The Paul Baker series ?

http://www.galenjeter.com/quiet_time-2.wav

This little passage is JAMMING !!!  I like it...need to hear more !  Bari and trumpet ?

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Aw, that is so sweet, thanks!!

Cher has a lot to offer, too.  She is actually a voice teacher.

Not to say that others don't have a lot to offer, too

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ROTFLMAO!!!!
I played flute in elementary school...was pretty good, wish I had kept it up. Had a traumatic experience that led me to stop no joke. Oh, well.

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Crystal, congrats on the weight loss! I probably asked you before, but how have you been losing it (any special diet or just cutting down on fat or calories, and exercising)? How many did you lose?

I am trying to lose...need to lose about 50.
I didn't used to have these double chins!  LMAO

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