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Actually, I was the one who filed for divorce in all cases.......Maybe I am too hard to please, huh?

That's exactly what I did, I looked at myself and then at them, and said "I don't need this stuff, I'm too good for this."......I don't have time for drama, jealousy, slopyness or selfish people.

Steve,

You pegged it with me exactly.......Ever since my first divorce, I have only lived for the chase and capture of women who were hot, but not the type I should marry....Then I had to deal with the messy breaking up part....

I married two of the many who became live-in's....I did that because I figured, "Maybe if I give them the security of marriage and all that goes with it, they will still be "hot" and then decide to "take care of business" around the house...You know, get in step and work with me at getting ahead and having a secure life together....Nope, all they did was get lazy and start taking me for granted.

I don't get lonely anymore....I did at first, but not anymore....In fact, I have become pretty set in my ways and like coming home to an empty house where things are exactly where I left them and there is no insane drama going on.

Yeah Keith,  I became a bit obsessed    Only one "fix" made me feel I was worth anything. I also couldn't be without a relationship, regardless of how sick the relationship was. There had to be backup's, and backup's for the backup's, etc as well. Toward's the end, I couldn't be alone.. If I came home alone one-night, I felt emasculated... Pretty sick, I know..

Now it's pretty much flip-flopped.. I've gotten so used to being by myself, and having *MY* uninvaded space, that between people to yack with on the internet, hobbies, and just knowing there are folks around, I never feel alone anymore.   Enjoying life doesn't have to include "sex, drug's, and Rock and Roll" for me...  I didn't know that until about 10 years ago.  Craziest part, is that the calmest I ever am, is when I'm not involved. There's less anxiety for me when I haven't become dependent on a woman for my happiness.. First thing that happen's when I get too close, are my trust issues... and fear.  But I'm lucky,  my parent's are still alive and well...At least they care. The real test as to whether or not I can stand on my own two feet and face life's issues, well be when I no longer have folks that are alive, when they are gone.. and there's noone to bail me out, or throw me a lifeline. I don't know if being "alone" will be so easy (when I'm really alone with no family.)

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OK,  Those who've opened up here


1)  Keith
2)   PC
3)  Kaplan



OK,  come on other's,  open up or I'm deleting my personal stuff  



Keith,  I've just known too many easy to get along with individual's.  People I'd think anyone would be compatible with, people that are honest, down-to-earth, and extremely open and communicative, go thru 4, 5, even 6 marriages... For whatever reason that might happen, some thing's aren't meant to be "Til death do you part"... That should be taken out've the marital vow's IMHO.... Sound's more like a sentencing IMHO

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Years ago when the life expectancy was alot lower and they had a real education system most had found self, god, and the real purpose of life by the time they were 20...If one does not know self let alone love self then how can a member of the opposite sex even begin to because you cant give anything that you dont even know what it is..If you are looking for yourself in your partner then the relatioship is doomed..If you can even call it that.  The most important part of sex is the 30 minutes after and communication involved..And on and on ......

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Why spend 30 minute's cleaning up after a 2 minute activity ?  I just hang up when I'm done... Either that, or push the computer table away from the bed, and roll over and sleep... I have a great sexlife !


Keith, how far apart do you two live now ?

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Seriously Karyoker,  I think too many people marry not because of love, but because they are needy. Alot of empty people marry with some fantasy expectation that that will "make the bad stuff go away". The spouse will take care of them.

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 LMAO

I usually check KS and others then do it again...

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WOW,  I don't get lucky that much these days  LOL


Although I have to admit,  sometimes after scrolling back, and reading my post's, I get all amorous.  That's healthy, right ?

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BTW I answered ur post on midi... sort-off

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Thanks Karyoker,  I'm going to go out, start up the car.  Try to convince the ice to leave the window's......get some food,  and I'll head over to read it...  I need to find out what components I'll need to put keyboard's, guitar, etc even a Shure SM-58 into the computer...Don't even know what cakewalk is... or what type mixer I should get.  I always looked at that as "cheating"... ..  I prefered playing the instrument's and taping that.

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Ok later another 60 degree day here and 40 feet of snow up in the hills...

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Yeah,  it briefly warmed into the 40's,  which is why I want to try to knock some of the crud off've the car before it becomes refreeze....


Funny, in the old day's in certain religion's when the parents picked out their kid's mate,  the couples learned to love one-another other, didn't they ?  or is that just a line I'm remembering from "Fiddler on the Roof"? and in actuality they were miserable, and messed around behind their partner's backs even in those days. I don't know why so many people get married these days Karyoker, as opposed to living together for a long time first.. Why not just live together ?  I'm just stupid like that I suppose,  I don't understand it... Of course I can see marrying if you want to have kids (something else I was never ready for)..Yet I never understood why people would meet someone in their teens, early-20's, having never lived together, and married after knowing each other for only perhaps a few months....Sometimes it works,  other times it doesn't... Yet do most that marry in our culture, marry AFTER learning how to live with themselves, and love themselves ? or having become grounded ?   I seriously doubt it.  That takes years and years....

I haven't a clue about this stuff. I'd want to be as sure as I can be that when I get married,  it'll be with someone I love enough to want to stay with til the day I croak.

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AAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!

She called to chat just now(2nd wife).....Wants to come visit Saturday......Cool!

Told her we would do some ribs and beans and stuff....And do music of course....She is really into music...I swear she knows every song sung and who did it.

So we got to talking about old times......

I miss her.

The only problem with that girl was that she was insanely jealous....She would get jealous stuff in her head and by the time I got in from work she was throwing stuff at me....

I don't know if there is a cure for that.

Maybe she would like to go fishing Sunday.....I need to check the weather.

Sorry you guys are dealing with ice and snow....we are having 70 degree days and really cool nights down here....It is so nice this time of year here.

Keith,  Let me ask you a question here.  Did you possibly act in certain ways, or do things that might take her jealousy out've the "insane" category ?  What I'm asking, is whether it's possible she is "reasonably" jealous ?   .  While I'm not saying jealousy is the most productive emotion, it means a person in some ways feels threatened... If nothing is done to provoke it, that's one thing, yet some jealousy is normal,  The people I've known that have said,  "Nah, I never get jealous" with few exceptions lied  LOL ..  If you flirt, or eye females when she's around, or play on her insecurities SURE she'd be jealous..If younger females call the house asking for you, yeah she might wonder who they are..... Depends I suppose to on how she handle's the jealousy,  If she's insanely possessive of you doing fun thing's you like doing like hanging woth the horses, fishing, that's a different story... What's she jealous of ?  Was there anything that might've placed thought's in her head ? Past stuff that you'd done ? Someone at work she think's you are into ?

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To be honest, I LOVE ice and snow...,  no complaints...I just don't like refreeze, that plows bank againt the car, and I have to use a ho or spade to break the frozen big balls of snow, you can't shovel that mix

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Anyway,  Perry mentioned "reconciliation" would scare him to death..  If the reconciliation is with a woman you were already married to, I hardly see that as anything scary.  Personally I think that's a great thing... You already know her, you have a history together, you don't have to get married right off the bat, you can always live together for awhile,  Just because two people need to go in different directions at times,  doesn't mean they can't meet in the future when they're at different stages..  Someone you know,  and have history with, is never a bad rekindling assuming both want to work out the glitches... We get older, and mellow out in some ways. I'm sure they things about you Keith, that she has probs with too....

Keith,  you ever make a pro/con list.... What you really like about her, and what drives you nut's about her.... and weighed the list in your head ?. She'd probably be willing to work on the stuff that drives you nuts, if you compromise too. Then there's that "change of life thing",  you've got to cut some slack for that !




JMO                                                                         Dr. Kappy Ruth

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Relax, Steve

All we are going to do is eat, visit, wreck the bed, go fishing, and groom horses.....If she sticks around to help me clean up the house afterwards, then maybe I'll consider keeping her and take her fishing.

I gotta hand it to her...She not only is the best looking of all my ex's, she is also the most persistant.

I'll send you a pic via PM once I figure out how to do it.

Gez, I've been up all night trying to install a new DSL modem/router and firewall....I think I got it working now.....I'm beat!....I'll call in tomorrow-no today, and claim I'm sick.

I ain't yet fingered out how to post a pic in PM

Man, if don't stop looking at her pics and talking to her so much, I am going to do something stupid!...That's all I need is another year of stupid stuff.

So don't we all Keith,  So don't we all !     I can use a really great stupid stuff year for a change, but it sound's as if you still have strong emotional feelings for this woman ?   I don't know...

YOu can always EMail me too Keith.  Whatever your preference is.

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