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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 2:31 pm |
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Quote: An Elvis impersonator. He walked around with this huge ego passing out his silly business card with a picture of himself on the back that looked like Leisure Suit Larry. He gets up to sing and makes me stop it because it wasn't in his key. I told him I could change the key, but that wasn't good enough. Then he bashes me over the mic for not having what he wants. So now he picks out another Elvis tune. Picture side burns and dressed in all black leather. Okay he starts singing doesn't sound like Elvis at all, but seems to be able to carry a tune. I'm thinking maybe this will be nice. Then the chorus kicks in he is screaming in the mic.
L-O-S-E-R
See the extreme some idiot's will go to in order to try to get laid ?
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karyoker
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 1:11 am |
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Kappy another year gone by and didnt get any
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P Tucker
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 2:34 am |
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I discourage people from singing American Pie. I'm sorry, but a 10 min song? yuch. I just nicely tell them how long the song is and if they'd really like to do it they can, but I'll have to cut it short. No one notices I just fade it out after one of the choruses. On a slow night they can sing the whole thing - but I'm going home to eat dinner and then I'll be back in plenty of time for the end of the song.
Ah ha ha funny!
I notice people who pick long songs just for that reason, just to annoy everyone. One guy did "Turn The Page" one night but sounded country with an accent. It was like okay, enough already.
And I'm not much for regulars doing their regular songs, but I just go to another venue (Gay bar karaoke always succeeds in variety, and plus heterosexual me doesn't get hit on, which is a good thing but still it is a self esteem dampener)
To me, that would be like going just to try and hear myself sing. What if you did turn some dude on? YIKES!! Sorry, I'm a phobe.
I don't care who sings my songs, they're not really mine. But if someone who always sees me there decided to try and "overtake" my act everytime they know I'm there, yes, I might get upset and think someone's being an a$$.
One of the songs I do by Audioslave, "I Am The Highway" is a song that "NOBODY" does except for me, and the kj loves it, so I oblige. It wouldn't bother me if someone really liked the same music as I do. One night, a really good singer that does stuff like you'd see on American Idol like "Unchained Melody" wanted to sing "Like A Stone" by Audioslave, so the fill-in kj wouldn't let me do it,(they were friends) I just picked another one. BTW, he was really good at it, but added his own twist to the lyrical timing etc...
In response to the original question here, have at it, who really cares if you genuinely want to try these songs. But if it's just to make someone look bad, why bother? I mean hey, get a life. Right?
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 5:34 am |
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If it's in the book and someone wants to sing it, they get to sing it regardless of length, that is what we are there for. If you don't want it sung, take it out of your book. Songs with long intos may get faded out depending on how long the rotation is. Only time a song is not allowed is if the venue does not allow it or children are present.
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Laura
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:02 am |
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Quote: Laura - I love your additude. You would make any KJ happy. I get very tired of hearing the same songs over and over. :need hug: :hi5: Those are all for you, Babs! Thank you! Quote: ...I had a self admitted card toting professional singer come in last night. An Elvis impersonator. He walked around with this huge ego passing out his silly business card with a picture of himself on the back that looked like Leisure Suit Larry. He gets up to sing and makes me stop it because it wasn't in his key. I told him I could change the key, but that wasn't good enough. Then he bashes me over the mic for not having what he wants.
I saw a guy once get really prima-donna-ish over something being in the wrong key (I mentioned this briefly on another thread). I felt bad for him about it being in such a bad key, but he really had an attitude. He stomped off saying, "This karaoke sucks!"
The other night, though, I was about to sing "The Way" (Fastball) and it was in the wrong key at first. The KJ had used the key changer on the person ahead of me and had forgotten to reset it. So when I heard the intro, I just said, "Whoa, wait a minute, what key are we in?" I think I was calm and reasonable about it--I didn't yell or bash him or anything--even though it did rather throw me off guard to hear it in a key I KNEW I couldn't sing it in! He very kindly apologized, stopped and readjusted it and started it over in the right key. And everything went fine.
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Laura
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 12:07 pm |
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Re: the comments about gay bars and being hit on...
I was at a club not too long ago which, AFAIK, is NOT a gay bar (though I did wonder about the guy with the scarf, who pranced around the stage singing "Hit Me Baby One More Time"). Anyway, there was this really loud, obnoxious drunk chick there who, at one point while I was talking to someone, spanked me on the butt! I didn't know WHAT to do! Acting on impulse, I just spanked her right back on her butt! Probably a dumb thing to do--but hey, they don't cover this in any of the etiquette books I've got!
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 9:15 pm |
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Quote: Kappy another year gone by and didnt get any
True, I didn't. However, I figured out why !
Had I scrutinized the Ebay description, I'd have noticed the seller of the "Do-it-your-own-srelf Elris Implersrination" book I ordered provided me with the wrong dialect !
To better your "Presley" impersonation skill's and get laid, *NEVER* buy the "Elris" publication from Hong Kong ! It doesn't cut it here in the states. True it might be cheaper, problem is I think American girl's *CAN* tell the difference ! The only way to actually discern the difference in which version or dialect might arrive prior to ordering (based upon the description) is the American manual is published in Rochester New York, and it's latest edition was edited "7-11" (additionally, it's content's are printed in English). I should have carefully combed thru the words on the sellers description. Had I done that, I'd have realized that the word I saw "engris" and the fact that the seller accepted "Local competitor coupon" didn't mean much. It's always "Buyer Beware" on Ebay ! The book came with a CD I learned to crone just based upon the sound, I picked up "by ear" what I heard on the CD, I couldn't quite figure out that funny "accent" since I live up here in Connecticut, so I figured it had something to do with the "Nashville Sound", anyway I couldn't make out those funny font's they used in the book. Thing looked like a big "fortune cookie"..
May you have a better 2006 too Karyoker !
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 10:08 pm |
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Quote: Anyway, there was this really loud, obnoxious drunk chick there who, at one point while I was talking to someone, spanked me on the butt! I didn't know WHAT to do! Acting on impulse, I just spanked her right back on her butt! Probably a dumb thing to do--but hey, they don't cover this in any of the etiquette books I've got! Just out of curiosity (someone asked me to post this, it's not as if I really care personally of course, but I think they want to know what bar to avoid, and they're too afraid to ask you themselves) What was the name of the bar, and where is it located ? :drool: :dancin: :angel: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Quote: they don't cover this in any of the etiquette books I've got!
I have a few <clearing throat> etiquette books that discuss this type of "bonding". Alternative behaviour (of sorts) for our culture. For some strange reason, I pensively studied that "greeting", and type of exchange awhile back. I try not to condemn things just because I don't understand them. I'm just a compassionate guy I suppose, A healthy male that's doing the best I can to learn about the opposite gender :worship: !
Now what was the name of the bar that taught this type etiquette ? :dancin: :party:
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Laura
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 6:13 pm |
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Quote: What was the name of the bar, and where is it located ? :drool: :dancin: :angel: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
I will IM you with the info! I don't want to make it public here, because I don't know if the people there are ALWAYS like that. The first time I went there, nothing like that happened. It was only the 2nd time I went that this weird stuff happened. And it was just a few people who were acting weird, not all of 'em. So watch your IM's and I will tell you.
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SteveB
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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:13 am |
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karyoker @ Sat Dec 31, 2005 6:21 pm wrote: One night a drunk sang Wild Irish Rose...He slaughtered it made fun of it like it was a childrens song
That's about the only time I would deliberately do a song someone else has already done, if they've deliberately done a jokey "crap" version of it I might do it seriously a little later on in the night, but if they've given it a good shot and it's not been great I wouldn't do it "properly" to show them up.
If two people have the same song in the queue the KJ will often have them both do it a couple of rotations apart, which nobody ever seems to mind, although it's not how I'd run things myself
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knightshow
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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:25 am |
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Babs @ Sat Dec 31, 2005 12:56 pm wrote: ...He gets up to sing and makes me stop it because it wasn't in his key. I told him I could change the key, but that wasn't good enough. Then he bashes me over the mic for not having what he wants. So now he picks out another Elvis tune. Picture side burns and dressed in all black leather. Okay he starts singing doesn't sound like Elvis at all, but seems to be able to carry a tune. I'm thinking maybe this will be nice. Then the chorus kicks in he is screaming in the mic. A KJs nightmare. If he is a professional singer why does he not know to back off the mic if he going to do this? Oh his name "Jack Flash" - hee hee
Well long story short the crowd really didn't like him, not much applause. The next singer comes up sings the orininal Elvis tune this guy was going to do, but wasn't in his key and rocked the house - It was sweet!. Babs, why did you put up with that?
I'd have turned his mic down in an instant, walked over and took it out of his hand, and told him where the door was.
NEVER allow a singer to manhandle you physically or emotionally. It's YOUR show. You didn't have the song in "the correct key"?? So Friggin' WHAT? Did he ASK what key it was in?
I don't normally believe in badmouthing of singers, but anybody that treats you with disrespect is fair game!
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knightshow
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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:27 am |
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Laura @ Sun Jan 01, 2006 12:07 pm wrote: Re: the comments about gay bars and being hit on...
I was at a club not too long ago which, AFAIK, is NOT a gay bar (though I did wonder about the guy with the scarf, who pranced around the stage singing "Hit Me Baby One More Time"). Anyway, there was this really loud, obnoxious drunk chick there who, at one point while I was talking to someone, spanked me on the butt! I didn't know WHAT to do! Acting on impulse, I just spanked her right back on her butt! Probably a dumb thing to do--but hey, they don't cover this in any of the etiquette books I've got! ! Well, there's not much you can do other than say something over the mic, or if someone's singing, then loudly enough where the other folks nearby can hear ya.
I get grabbed occasionally. I just tell them that they're sickos and need to get out more if they find ME attractive! !!
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knightshow
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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:29 am |
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Laura @ Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:02 am wrote: Quote: I saw a guy once get really prima-donna-ish over something being in the wrong key (I mentioned this briefly on another thread). I felt bad for him about it being in such a bad key, but he really had an attitude. He stomped off saying, "This karaoke sucks!" I'd have yelled at his retreating backside... "Think you got it wrong dude... YOU suck. And I heard you charge too much!"
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Babs
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:35 am |
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knightshow @ Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:25 am wrote: Babs, why did you put up with that?I'd have turned his mic down in an instant, walked over and took it out of his hand, and told him where the door was. NEVER allow a singer to manhandle you physically or emotionally. It's YOUR show. You didn't have the song in "the correct key"?? So Friggin' WHAT? Did he ASK what key it was in? I don't normally believe in badmouthing of singers, but anybody that treats you with disrespect is fair game![/quote]
When he did it, it so caught me off guard. The funny thing is the guy made such an a$$ out of himself I didn't need to do anything about it. The patrons thought he was a jerk. I was treading lightly because the bar owner liked him, but he was the only one who did.
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knightshow
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:45 am |
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I hear ya Babs, but the only advice I can possibly think of is to NEVER take disrespect... it's good the other patrons thought he was a jerk, but friend of the owner or no, you can't get away with behaving like that on the mic! How would this owner like it if the guy did that at the bar in front of you? Would he sit there and say nothing??? sheesh... I'd be yellin' at the owner for this dude treatin' you so badly. And as you say, hindsight IS very revealing! ! I just know the way I react to crud like that.
at the very least, you tell them over the mic that karaoke is studio recorded music, but NOT the original tracks, and that there will usually be some changes or differences... and that if ANY singer is concerned with the key it's recorded in, they can talk to you BEFORE they get their hands on a microphone. You can even sample the song for them over the speakers if they're SOOoooooo concerned about this...
and bottom line... it's friggin' KARAOKE! It's SUPPOSED to be about fun! For NON-professionals (mostly)
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Laura
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:07 am |
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Quote: You can even sample the song for them over the speakers if they're SOOoooooo concerned about this...
Oh, you can do that? I'll have to look into that. It does help to know what key it's in. I don't mean to sound like a big diva or anything, but I can read music, so if I know it's in this or that key, I can figure out, "Let's see, the highest note would be this, and the lowest note would be this," and then figure out if it's do-able for me in that key (and if not, can I make adjustments and sing some not-so-high or not-so-low notes there and get away with it?).
You are right though, KS, the bottom line is to HAVE FUN. And I do.
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Babs
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:01 am |
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The funny thing is, it always says what key it is played in right after the tilte page comes up and I can lower or higher the key for someone. He asked me what version it was. I said it is soundchoice in the style of Elvis. Now that I'm writing it sounds almost comical. I also assured him I can stop the music if he doesn't like it and he can pick another song.
You're so right though - Darn it! It's karaoke not a recording studio
I'm still laughing to myself about the version - I guess I should have said I personally recorded Elvis's band for him.
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Laura @ Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:07 am wrote: Quote: You can even sample the song for them over the speakers if they're SOOoooooo concerned about this... Oh, you can do that? I'll have to look into that. It does help to know what key it's in. Sure, play them fifteen seconds of it...
This is also a nice way to have an el-cheapo cd player off the side, where you can play something and have microphones that they can listen to.
I used to do that... and then finally decided it really wasn't worth the trouble... I just tell folks now, "It's Karaoke! You're not paying studio time. Deal with it!"
Course I say it with a twist of my head and a bit of humor to my voice. Most folks just laugh it away and nod... they know they're singin' in a bar, and what to expect. The versions I have are the best I have, but occassionally, I'll find a real stinker. Usually on a not very popular song. If it's worth it and it's made by a better company, I get it, either in custom disc format or buy the smeggin' thing.
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Babs
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:08 am |
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If I'm not real busy I will let people hear the song with head phones.
But usually I'm to busy to mess with it - I tell them to pick another song just in case.
I can start the song they want to try if they don't want it I'll stop it and put in the second selected song.
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[font=Comic Sans MS]I don't have a problem with someone singing the same songs each week. Sometimes a person will sing the same songs at two or more shows of ours a week. This is usually cyclical, they'll learn a few new songs, sing them often until they are polished and then move on to other new songs....
I personally find it difficult to come up with "new" songs for myself each show. Part of my problem is forgetting what I've sung over the last 10 years or so... sometimes singing a song I used to do can almost be like a kamikaze!
I don't have a problem with someone singing a song they've heard me do, I feel it's complimentary.... I have come across people that complain that someone is doing "their" song, I just indicate that the other person turned the slip in first, I don't remember it going further than that EXCEPT two ladies who became friends at our show that both like to sing "When You Say Nothing At All", it became a friendly competition as to who could get it turned in at first
We don't like to repeat a song in an evening... Sometimes we will if a couple of rotations have gone by, the other person has left or we ask the first person to have sung it if they mind. Fortunately it's not a big deal at our shows (knock on wood).
We have people that come to our shows that are not heterosexual and for our crowds it's not a problem. Really it's none of their business. I don't care for anyone to touch me in a flirting manner whether the flirt is male or not... Everyone's boundaries are different and that is one of mine, however, we have friends, males & females, that are not heterosexual a friendly hug is not a problem...
We have had our own Elvis as well. It was very comical, one night he walked in the door in full Elvis garb and started offering autographs! He came up to turn in a song and we told him that we had cut off new singers at 12:30, we start at 9:00, and we’d love to have him back to sing for us. Of course we heard how great he was, etc, etc, etc, etc.... Sorry, not tonight... Next time he comes in at 12:25, I kid you not! We accepted his slip but told him we may not get to him as we weren't anywhere near the end of the rotation. Of course he gets his nose out of joint and leaves... Next time he comes in early, sings, receives the same kind of warm welcome our other singers receive but nothing more, he leaves after singing. He's been back a few times, dressed like the rest of us but he's a bar hopper and knows that we have a strict rotation so whenever he comes in he comes up to see how long it will be before he can sing, if it's a long time he leaves. He's one of a loose knit group of "performers" that go from bar to bar, sing a song and leave. We don't see much of them as we do a strict rotation but they know the clubs that don't and apparently have a wonderful time!
I agree, badmouth anyone on the mic and you're done. I can see getting caught off-guard tho...
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