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MERRY X'MAS Rita

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Merry Xmas to you too, Jian!!!   Wow!  I did it!!!!    LMAO  LMAO  LMAO  LMAO

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SAY IT WITH MUSIC!!!!

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(good lord... kappy out-valley's me!!!)

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Sorry for the past due reply, but not too late to say....MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!
As far as the Christmas hype nowadays, yes, unfortunately, Christmas is a holiday that has lost it's meaning in almost every sense of the word. It's all about revenue generation the way I see it now. That's terrible. I know many adults feel this way. I've done the parent at Christmas thing for 22 years now and it's just way too much stress. Trying to keep the spirit going for your kids and thinking about how some families don't have a decent Christmas every year. Going in major debt for a once a year holiday has made me feel empty and depressed as the holidays approach every year. Then, after a few hours of happiness by the ones on the receiving end, it's all over.............until next year.  :(  :newlol:

But don't let my mood ruin it for the rest of you....it's still Christmas.

The other day at one of the malls on my delivery route, while unloading my truck, I was approached by a man who was with Jehova's Witnesses. He started talking to me and handed me the pamphlets. I didn't want to be rude and say...not interested, so, I listened to what he had to say..........for about 20 minutes!!
I joked that the wife and I were considering converting to Jehova's Witnesses because the Christmas season is getting ridiculous and we know they don't celebrate Christmas, but I also stated that I have traditional beliefs. That's when he started explaining that Jesus wasn't actually born on Dec. 25th, but sometime in Oct., and that Christmas was a result of some other form of some tribe worshipping the sun god or some ?????? I can't exactly remember all of the details, except that all of the hokus pokus is just too much for me to comprehend at a time when I'm feeling depressed already about keeping up a tradition that has turned totally commercialized, a tradition that alot of retailers are trying to reduce to "Happy Holidays", and by certain groups of Government wanting to delete or omitt everything that our country was founded on...."IN GOD WE TRUST"!?!?

Too much for me. I say forget the gift giving and mayhem. Just give me a nice day of solitude with family, a nice dinner, a few drinks, and a moment of reflection of what I always thought Christmas was suppose to be about....The birth of Jesus Christ. Santa Claus is cool and everything, but for once, I'd like to see the proof that free gifts come from a flying sleigh in the sky that some jolly fat white bearded dude delivered down every furnace flu without scorching the hell out of his keister. .

   I thought I already explained all this  :headscratch:    Actually I didn't explain the part about how he fit's, and copes with lit fireplaces.  Next year I'll address those points !


AP Newswire      15:30 UT     SAT.  12-24-2005


   Santa still is packing toys for the following locations:


Arizona
New Mexico
Southern 1/3 California
Mexico
S. America
Phillipines
Thailand
Australia
New Zealand
Antarctic
South Africa
Guam

PCornel, how is this for evidence.  NORAD seems to believe it's true about a fat man in a red suit,  flying a sleigh being pulled by reindeer.  And as you can see they scramble fighter jets to escort him through the airspace they are responsible for (Canada and the US).

http://www.noradsanta.org/en/default.php

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I wonder if he'll be visible to the naked eye in the Western hemisphere tonight.  It's a really clear night here in the Northeast.   It's got to be tough on the reindeer when Santa doesn't have the jetstream  to help him.  Never could figure out how those animals could do all that leg work up there, I suppose Santa feeds them stuff high in Potasium so they don't get cramps !!!


PS:   I hope Santa didn't forget your key this year Tim... Last year the kid across the hall showed me his new Christmas gift on Christmas morning.  It was one of my guitars   Not only did I not receive a gift last year, but my linoleum floor had dirty hoof prints on it christmas morning, santa shaved in my bathroom, and left white hair in the sink, and a few of my guitars were missing, along with some of my other toys...Santa does funny things at times.  He seems to forget that we old farts are still kids too sometimes.  

Ha ha ha....you did explain it Kappy. Would you believe I posted before reading the whole thread? Yep, sorry 'bout that. I was so afraid that my computer would fade away and wouldn't get to open my big mouth, I posted before I knew the facts....he he he. This assuming that you knew the facts.
Man, are you a professor or something? You are such a philosopher, and when reading your posts it's hard not to believe that you know everything under the sun.
I thought the Santa story was cool, but I also thought it was suppose to be a joke. But man, you sure know how to tell 'em.

What the heck are you doing here on Christmas Eve?
Uhhhhhh....same thing I'm doing here, trying to escape the holiday?
I need to get a life. Oh, I do have a life! I need to get a new life.

,  Well,  I'm taking deep breaths, and waiting for the holidays to pass !  My feelings are very much like your own.  I believe that the kids should enjoy Christmas, Chanuka, etc..   Those are the ones IMHO, these events are for. I suppose some adults can relive the excitement vicariously with their children. Christmas, The Wizard of Oz and birthdays might be fun the first few times you experience them.... They get old fast and unwelcome after a period of time for some of us !






That's something you can't really rush.  It also is something that happens when you least expect it, (at least I've heard that secondhand, I don't know for sure of course)

:newlol: Thanks tim, but I'll have to take your word for it for now, my Windows Media Player is fried and I couldn't use the link.  :(
But thanks to people like you, there is hope. I think my major malfunction with Christmas nowadays is that I "want" to be everybody's "everything" and I can't be. And I associate everything with money....if I don't comfortably have the funds, or if I can't "do" for everyone, it ruins it for me. Maybe I should just get involved in charitable work around the holidays just to satisfy my need for "do gooding".
Or maybe I need to join a church....but I just don't like the hypocritical feeling I get when I think of practicing religion. I'm far from religious perfection, but I believe. And right now, I believe I have a lot of personal reckoning to contend with before I present myself to my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
My soul is spiritually alive and good, I just don't practice what I preach.....I know I will be punished.
But the important thing is, I recognize Christmas for what it really means, more than can be said about alot of others, here or otherwise.
Thanks for the encouragement and MERRY CHRISTMAS!!  :)

This was the biggest problem I had with the types of religious beliefs I had exposure to.  If, and when I do find a "loving God", and I hope someday I do.  I'll make life easier on myself and believe in something. Currently there's enough down here in hell to fear without God being another anxiety inducing entity.  I had to invite him to leave my life for awhile..

Depending on an individuals experience being exposed to pious aspects of organized religion, It's not something all can happily live with.  Some stick with it,  other's survive it and try to find something more suitable. "God will punish you if", was heard all too much during my childhood. I was very young when I started feeling as though it was awkward, if-not sadistic for God to want to punish me for enjoying certain sensations, and certain thought's he enabled me to have.. I lived a childhood believing God will strike me dead at any moment for feeling anger, having impulsive thoughts I shouldn't be having, etc. It occurred to me that this God guy was making things VERY uncomfortable for me, (at least as he was presented to me). The parent's however kept telling me, "well life isn't all or none,  it's not black or white, there's no perfection", yet one of the most polarized aspects of my life was this God I had impinged on me... Heaven/Hell etc.  The God I was introduced to didn't allow for grey areas. He was merciless, not only did he never talk to me,  but he watched me waiting for me to make mistakes, and the only way I'd know I really did something wrong was when he killed me.  Finally I took the plunge... I mustered up the gut's to say..  "OK God,  here I am, strike me, because as of now, I'm kicking you out of my life... You can sleep on the curb, I don't allow bullies as roommates"....

This was my perception of God, how the concept was presented to me. Life with such a God was living hell, or living a life in constant fear of getting killed at any moment. I certainly didn't like the fact that what was being presented was Punishment = Death, Separation anxiety is tough enough without having to fear that this "Loving God" would knowingly inflict such a punitive measure, merely because as a kid I might be legitimately mad at Grandma, and want her to trip down the steps, etc. or because I'm unable to not think thoughts, that I was told if I do think, I'll "be punished". Very tough way for a child to live.

It get's very confusing too, I was conditioned to believe in a God -So while I think I'm agnostic, I'd be dishonest to say if I found myself on my deathbed tomorrow I wouldn't be praying like crazy...Like many,  I'm confused..  I just don't know, perhaps I'm throwing a tantrum. Yet I did what I needed to do for the time being.


I kicked god out've my life because I had to do some remodeling.





...........and here I am with you guys !    :(

I think Billy Joel said it best......Only the good die young??

Well, the Christmas excitement part is over now, atleast in my household. We just exchanged gifts for about an hour, myself and immediate family. Now I get to listen to all the latest hip-hop over a 300 watt jukebox from my daughter's room!

But yes, I can see where the "fear of God" has converted many to a life of uncertainty. We as humans have a tendency to only believe what is presented as fact right before our eyes, something that has never been proven is a tough call to make. I just grew up from a "Christian Like" background I guess. A broken home of sorts, raised by my grandmother who believed in Christ. When I was a kid, I went to the local Methodist church, but ended up going to a local Christian church. I won a new white bible from the pastor in a huge Sunday morning service for answering a question....not sure what that question was now, but I was too bashful to walk up to the front to receive the new bible, so they brought it to me.

Not long after that, I strayed into a life of uncertainty myself...never really attended church on a regular basis, but I never gave up on believing that someone or something created the heavens and earth, and that there may be consequences for actions at the end of our long, but seemingly short journey through life. I just don't live like I'm afraid everyday. I know religion gives a person a chance to make wiser choices, even if the choice was not so heavenly. But some of us just act on impulse, temptation, and self-gratification alot of times, and worry about the consequences in the end..............I'm guilty, and not proud of myself about it, but hey, I'm only human. Free will is undoubtedly alive and well.

AO,   Another reason I'm here is that I don't have children.  I didn't mention that.



Well, I don't want to appear hypervigilant,  but here I am God.. Come and get me !


(Hey TJ, Have you seen this one yet?)

I'm not afraid, but I'm not going to push my luck. Have you ever seen "Bruce Almighty"?

,  No.   I should.

What I was getting at Perry, was that just to question the existence of God, was seriously "pushing my luck" according to what was instilled in me. I found it a necessary step that I had to take. Either way, I felt threatened.  I think that those that stay with a belief for the reason I might have (had I not been able to break free), don't love such a creator, they are scared $hi%(*$$ of this individual.  It certainly seems logical to me that a loving God would give his creations the opportunity to use the mind he created them with, and allow them to search without reprisal.  I'm not out to abandon belief.  I'd like to find a "God of Love" and not a concept that has me frozen rationalizing that my terror is "love". There were too many things that weren't reasonable to me. Unless of course God was egocentric, and put his needs before my own. Why would I go to Hell assuming I was a decent person, yet didn't believe in a deity that never presented itself to me ? Things didn't make sense. God started to appear to have too many quirky "ego" flaws, I saw too many contradictions, and it became obvious (to me) this was a man-created superstition. I started seeing God as a cranky old grandparent. How could such a polarized entity be omnipotent ?  That seemed absurd. What good did it do me to not at least attempt to step back so I could try questioning the validity of this all or none monstrosity ? I had enough to worry about that was visible to me.

Oh man....you're missing a funny one there. Don't know if you're a Jim Carrey fan or not, but that has to be one of the funniest movies he was in, besides "Me, Myself, and Irene". It's based on alot of talk about free will. Check it out....not a waste of time if you like comedy.

Oh Yeah,  I think Jim Carrey is amazing !

Thanks, I'll rent it this week

Favorite show was "In Living color". Rather than fall off my chair laughing my a$$ off during that program, I just sat on the floor when I watched it. I'd end up buckled over rolling all over the floor while watching that show anyway. The Wayan's and Carrey and Foxe was quite a combo.  The satire was amazing .. That show was continuous brilliance IMHO, one skit after the next, they just hammered out hilarious skits.

Oh, no doubt. I would be seriously disappointed later in life to find out that "God doesn't kill you maliciously ASAP" for thinking about what it looked like up under my hot teachers skirt.....LMMFAO!!
I mean hey, those thoughts are just a normal part of being human, especially as a kid....well for me it was anyway.
Have you ever been afraid you might have to stand up and address the class?
I've never wished for bad things to happen to bad people though, it's not in my programming. I'm generally a compassionate soul. But I do believe that karma is a b*tch.
I guess I'm superstitious like that. I also believe in astrology, which could contradict my personal beliefs about religion....I'm still unsure myself. I just try to live in a way that doesn't inflict pain or injury to others. I think living up to God's word or believing in the bible is just being a good person in our everyday dealings with others....it's what's in our hearts that counts the most to me. If a person doesn't feel that way, that's his or her choice, it doesn't mean that the non-believer is a killer, a thief, or a conspirator, but without basic beliefs of what is suppose to be considered good, that's when things start making me feel uneasy about being in the presence of a person.
It's good to know these things about people whom you might associate with on a daily basis in their presence.....still, not proving that the person would make "me" their first victim ever.

Nah,  I have nothing to hide