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I am researching wireless mics and am not sure what is better uhf or vhf.
I'm considering AKG WMS40 uhf or Audio 2000 AWM6524p. I know Shure and Samson have good wireless, but don't know anything about them. Please help.I work a small venue with a lot of TVs and neon.

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UHF .......
 I my self use 3     UHF nady wireless mic's for the drunks and
a Sure Beta 58A wired mic for me.
Bought some VHF wireless and hooked em up got a loud buzz and
a lot of interference, I unhooked them and threw them right in the garbage pail
They never even got to be sang thru...was funny, to see people digging in the garbage to get the mic's and revievers. My Nady UHF's work great.
I was out $150.00 bucks that night but I learned my lesson.

The Lesson was:
1. before I buy anything!!!!!!Ask here First!!!!!

2.Before I post a question I search the forum's Here as well.

Go UHF      lol (sounds like a college football team)

thats my story and I'm stikin to it
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Ditto



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Look, here's an example
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http://www.karaoke-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=5538
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Nady sounds good, but the shures are the live performance standard by which to meausre by.  They have the smoothest response and are good and rugged. I have 30 yrs experience with wire 58's and 57's and they take a lot of punishment before giving up the ship.  Your singers will appreciate the sound quality shure gives.

Says who? Sounds like you are just kind of stuck in a groove there, no offense, but Shure is not the alpha and omega of microphones.

Good for you, but the question was Also keep in mind that money also plays a role in people's lives. We are suggesting good mics for reasonable prices here.
You can get a Nady UHF 3/HT Handheld Wireless System for $119.95 or a Shure PGX24/PG58 Handheld Wireless System for $399,99

Whatever. 90% of the singers are tone death and trust me, the other 10% will be very happy with the Nady's. I have been a musician for 25 years and I use Nady's (even though I have Shure's as backup mics)

The brand Nady, I have heard mention of those also. I guess my big fear is I will spend money on a wireless that has a problem with interference from neon and tvs. I work on a small stage with one huge neon and 3 small ones directly behind me. In fact I duck under it to use the window ledge where I keep request slips. Plus I have 2 to the near left of me, not to mention the others in the bar. This small bar has 8 tvs. I don't actually mind spending a little more money if I can get durability and clarity. Thank you for the links!!

Please if anyone else can help or has links I'd greatly appreciate it.  :hug:

If you love your wireless please leave the full model name - Thanks Babs

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The interference will be taken care of by the UHF transmitter/receiver. Use VHF and you will have interference from external sources. It’s all about the frequency ranges. Buying Nady or Shure will not make a difference.

VHF frequency comprises channels 2-13 of the TV world. As long as you make sure that there are no TV stations in a fifty mile radius broadcasting at the same frequency as your VHF mic's, you will have no problem with interference. For example, don't choose a fixed frequency VHF microphone that operates at the same frequency as channel 11, if there is a city in your area that broadcasts a channel 11 station. Fixed frequency mics are OK if you don't travel around the country alot, as opposed to a band on the road. We have 4 shure fixed frequency microphones in each of our systems, but we purchased them knowing that those frequencies wern't being used by the TV stations in our area. If we had to do it all again, we would probably purchase frequency agile UHF systems. for ease of selection, and portability of the transmitters between the two systems. As far as quality, just like everything else, you get what you pay for!  :D

As Allstar said,


The reason isnt the tv station interference, it is the frequency of the neon, and flourescent ballasts, and the enormous RFI they put out. Uhf is a higher frequency, and is more resistant to the interference. Nady, or Audio Technica uhf souold work fine.

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Hi Babs! Welcome to the board.  I went all wireless this summer, adding RSQ's RW-4002U (UHF) dual unit.  It's sounds great and was moderately priced - about $225.   I already had a Shure UT-58 wireless, but that was about $400 and I was always a little hesitant to hand it over to rowdy drinkers.  The RSQ is rack mountable, taking up one space.  The antennas are located on the front, which was another feature I wanted since my rack was so full.  It seems pretty durable as well.

You've got a nice system/sound - I wouldn't skimp on the mics - they are a critical component.

If you want to try out my RSQ some night, let me know and I'll bring it over.  I'm overdue in making the rounds!  See ya.  Marty

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Also, Microwave Ovens at the Venues can sometimes cause interference with a VHF wireless system. I agree... UHF is worth the few extra bucks.

Oh my gosh !!
Hi Marty - it's a small world

I would love to try your mics out. Thank you so much for the offer. I'm leaning towards Audio technica 2000 series or Audio Technica DR 2600 ( only found in the guitar center stores)  They are VHF, 10 channel, diversity. They are around $200.

After listening to everyone I really was interested in Nady, but all the stores say they have aweful sound quality. Guitar Center strongly suggest against them. I talked to 5 area store staff. They have a store guarentee that will let me return them if I don't like them - which is nice.

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I would love to try your mics out. Thank you so much for the offer. I'm leaning towards Audio technica 2000 series or Audio Technica DR 2600 ( only found in the guitar center stores)  They are VHF, 10 channel, diversity. They are around $200



still looking at VHF?

I just Bought a new 16 Channel UHF Diversity Nady wireless from Musiciansfriend dot com it list's for around $300. (suggested) I got it on sale for $99.00 I have 3 Nady's and mine have good quality sound.

But always take the advice from a salesman he know's best  LMAO

Major typing error - The audio Technica are [glow=seagreen] UFH.[/glow] After listening to all your experiences I would only get UHF for my situation.

Guitar Center only carries the lowest end Nady for $70 (in my area) and I have 5 stores. I'm wondering if they are missing the boat. Their sales people are usually versed in what they sell in stock. I don't know why Nady gets such a bad rap. I like the stores policy that I'll be able to return it in 30 days if I don't like it, but they don't carry the Nady I want. If I get the AT from the store I feel more protected.

This will be my first wireless mainly because I have the worst enviroment for one.
Not only do I have the neon, tvs, and microwaves to deal with, but high powered lines
that makes it difficult for even a radio to work. I think that is what the interference is. There is also a Metra Station across the road (don't know if that is what interfers with the radio signals).

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Babs... as long as you go UHF your probably going to be fine. they are alot more fun than the wireless when it comes to moving around the room.

Something else to keep in mind with wireless:  In the next year or two, the FCC is going to open up some new UHF frequencies for use with HDTV.  These frequencies could very possibly interfere with the use of UHF wireless mics.  UHF is still the way to go, but you will definitely want one with multiple channels.  

Shure is dropping their UT series, if they haven't already.  All the mics in the UT series are single channel.  They are being replaced with the 90 channel PGX series.  

Audio Technica has also come out with a 10 channel system, the DR-3600 if I remember correctly.

Another thing to consider with wirelesses is called diversity.  Shures top mics are dual diversity mics, which, in a nutshell, means that they have two receivers built into the base.  If you lose signal in one, you still have the signal in the other.  I have two Shure dual diversity mics myself, and I've never gotten any static out of them.  If the base has two antennas sticking out of the top, it's probably dual diversity.

skillet - are you sure it is an audio Technica 3600. I couldn't find any info on the web about it. I am seriously looking at the 2000 series and the DR 2600.

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Babs

I just purchased 2 of those Nady UHF wireless units that are on sale for $70 right now from guitar center. I tested them at one of my gigs last night and I was very pleased with their performance. Vocal quality is good, no drops or pops, however they do have some mild noise when "handling them" if you have the gain up. I was very skeptical when I purchased them but the local guitar center salesman said he used them for his band and found them to be very good for the price.

All in all I found them to be perfectly acceptable for my venues. I have no idea how durable they will be but for now they appear to be a good investment. For bars it is very difficult for me to justify the 300-400 price tag. I have a set of Sure SM58's for weddings and special events but will never take them into one of my bar gigs.

By the way you can buy a rackmount kit from Nady to accomodate single or double unit adaptation. $39 price tag.

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