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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:19 am 
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Hehe I'm new here, but I have some good advice for people wanting convenience. Get a CAVS karaoke player that supports Super CDG. I've seen disks for this which hold anywhere from 400 to 1300 songs. Mind you, the graphics aren't quite as pretty as with normal CDG's, but the sound is MP4 and a very nice quality.
 As far as I know you can get SCDG disks from Sweet Georgia Brown, Chartbuster, NuTech, Music Maestro(blech) and a couple of others. They are often full sets (The SGB one is about 66 disks worth of songs and still has the weird graphics in the middle)
     These disks are basically DVD's full of mp3s and quite reliable. Most of the disks run between $99 and $250 USD, The Chartbuster ones being the most pricy.
 And of course they support normal CD+G, DVD, VCD(I think. I don't own any =P) etc...
   Have a look at www.cavsusa.com


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Goddessoffunk so if I buy a cavs and get some super cdg disks that hold from 400 to 1300 songs I can carry all my disks in a small disk holder. Wow, cool, shold have thought of that earlier.

Ok here is why I don't..
I have heard that they take longer to cue up.
Sound Choice doesn't sell scdg's
If I damage one there goes from 400 to 1300 songs.... insead of 15 +/- from a std cdg disk.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:11 am 
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If I were using my SCDGs for shows I would back them up. Nuff said. The load time isn't much longer at all for me. I don't know about all the machines that play them though. The place across town that uses them sometimes goes thru 2-4 songs before needing a change even though they have about 5 of them. I never even notice the transition from disk to disk other than knowing what songs are on which. (I have to figure out what they're doing!) As far as Sound Choice goes, They have no reason to make "bulk disks" because if they sell 4 disks they've made what the scdg's go for. That is where I hope to have at LEAST a 100 disk changer when I get back in business to keep up with new songs and ones that just don't come on them. Good points though.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:48 pm 
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Nu-Tech and SGB are crap, MM is hit and miss, CB is good for country the rest are hit and miss.  So you may have quantity but not much in quality.

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timberlea @ Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:48 pm wrote:
Nu-Tech and SGB are crap, MM is hit and miss, CB is good for country the rest are hit and miss.  So you may have quantity but not much in quality.


Agree.  Quality overrides quantity any day.  Why would you want to have so many semi-useless - useless tracks?

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and the word around is that SCDG NEVER got their licensing paid to put the tracks in that format...

That's what MTU says about it...


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Of course, if you format shift you could just as easily format shift to SCDG.  And to make a back up of an SCDG only requires a DVD+R or DVD-R blank.  I'm buying them at $14.95 per 50 and sometimes less!

So for less than the cost of a CDR I can back up a SCDG or rip/build/create my own SCDG's from my existing CDR's.  I can take those 66 discs of SGB and put them on 2 DVD+R's as SCDG's or maybe even 1!  I can fit nearly 25,000 tracks in the same binder that my SC Foundation 1 came in and have a backup in my Foundation 2 binder! (I bet SC is cringing at my hints of doing this!) :wink:

I'm considering going to a computer based karaoke show but since most of the Dj'ing software I'm considering doesn't support karaoke it would require my either having 2 computers or 2 seperate pieces of software running.  I'm still on the fence but might actually make the jump to building SCDG's of my existing discs....hmmm...

And they have a basic PC based SCDG player so I could actually build the SCDG's, put them on my hard drive as 'virtually mounted' DVD's and playback from them without actually having the SCDG's. hmmmm....

And where is the cost saving?  On the DJ side of things for me.  I have saved a mint buying MP3's over buying CD's recently.  I've gotten over 10,000 MP3 tracks for about $1000 over the last year.  At 10 cents per track I'm buying like a fiend.  Anything anyone mentions that's pretty decent I purchase right away.  I'm sitting at about 35,000 tracks right now and since I'm starting to do weddings and other similar events I'm using the large library to satisfy the 'specialized' nature of the requests.  BTW, wish I could legally get 10,000 karaoke tracks for $1000 that were even halfway decent!


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Duplicate post....


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Again, duplicate post... was getting error message as assumed the post didn't go through... doh! But it did!


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karaokemeister, where do you buy your MP3s?  I've been running my DJ stuff off a laptop (should have switched over YEARS ago) and have ripped all my CDs to the HD but would like to augment the collection LEGALLY!

PM me if the powers that be won't let you say in here!

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I have been doing karaoke now for 5 years.  Last 3 with computer.  Yes the computer and software (MTU Hoster) did cost me an investment.  But the freedom of not dealing with the discs was worth it to me.  One other thing that comes to mind as a plus is "future" returns.  I am a fulltime fire chief.  I do karaoke on the side 3 times a week.  At some point I will retire from the fire service and hope to continue for a while longer doing karaoke.  I will be 50 before the end of the year.  I relize at some point in time I will retire from karaoke also.  At that point I would probably see myself selling my system.  I would think that on the market, karaoke disc that have only been used once (to record into the hard drive) would be worth more on the dollar than discs that had been in continual use.

Regarding the CAVS unit.  I have a friend who uses the cavs to do his show.  The music quality is poor in my opinion.  As has been said, quality over quanity any time. Also you cannot bring up a song with CAVS as quick as you can with Hoster.   Would I have saved a couple grand by not going digital?  Sure.  But having done it both ways, I can atest it is far easier digital and that in it self is worth the investment to me.

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