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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:36 am 
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I have a great sounding system powered by a Yamaha EMX series mixing amp (400 watts stereo X2) with a BBE sonic enhancer and Yamaha 115V Club Series main cabs.

I am a anal stereophile and am always looking for the next upgrade to my system. The question I have is how do you think moving from my mixing amp to separate components would affect my sound (besides the obvious wattage upgrade).

One of the silly reasons I am considering this is that due to the way the effects bus on my mixing amp is wired, my sonic processor cancels it out, so I can not use the onboard effects and the sonic processor at the same time. I have consulted countless pros and this seems to be unavoidable, though I know separate components would allow me to run the sonic processor in series with the mixer effects. Before it reached the amp.

I am looking at buying a Yamaha P5000S amp and a Yamaha MG16/6FX mixer to replace my current unit.

I know that the separate mixer and amp would make the system overall more versitile, but what other advantages, disadvatages have yall experienced??


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Components will almost ALWAYS give you a cleaner sound with the added benefit of being able to expand easily.
You don't have to buy another mixer right off.  Your powered board has two line outs on the front "Main Out".  Run that into your BBE then into an external amp.  This will allow you to utilize the internal effects plus the additional power gain & the 5000 will make a major difference from the built in.  With the speaker combination currently, the amp is only pushing 270 watts per channel into 8 ohms.  The P5000 pushes 500 watts per channel into 8 ohms & the Club series speakers will like that ALOT more.  You may even find you do not need the BBE.  Try it with & without.
This will give you a major upgrade now without shelling out all the cash now.  You can always upgrade the mixer later.

This is what I would do first anyway.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:48 pm 
Yep, go with more amp first, then upgrade the mixer later if you still need to.

Fersure try it with and without the BBE.

You will find that the tops will be brighter with more amp power...and the bass will be fuller too.

Then patch in the BBE and discover that the tops will reach broader cause the BBE seems to spread out the pencil-beaming effect of the horns.

You will also have better and more defined bass with the BBE and a fat amp that has more headroom.

But the reason for all of this is more amp.

Make sure your new mixer (when you decide to buy one) includes inserts on each  mic channel. It sounds like you will grow to need them soon.


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I am going to get the Yamaha MG16/6FX Mixer, which does have inserts and low pass filters on all of the mic channels.

Thanks for the advise, I have the cash, so I think I may just go ahead and spring for all of the components and a nice rack housing for all my stuff. Thanks!!


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