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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 2:34 am 
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You are 100% right, Chamjam!  No one should ever answer a comment in that way if they put their sub up for critique.  I didn't mean to get the thread off the subject.  I was just trying to point out that when I first arrived here the rules looked pretty cut and dried but after being here awhile I find that they aren't.  Just like what happened with you and the person being discussed here.  I didn't hear the sub being discussed and didn't see the comment.  But I've seen enough of your comments that I believe that your critique was justified even though I think the person in question was among the best singers on here. You've critiqued some of my stuff and I didn't get my feelings hurt.  I could see what you were talking about.  

I know you don't want to hurt people's feelings and were only doing a simple critique.  You didn't do anything wrong.  The comeback was what was wrong...very wrong.  But it also goes to show that the critique issue is a problem for some people.  I agree they shouldn't put it up for critque if they can't take it.  They should put it up just for fun.  But again....apparently they aren't doing that.  

I read the bio on the person we are discussing here and just from that I gather that he has some problems and probably uses his singing as an outlet.  I've also noticed that he hasn't subbed anything lately.   So this is a sad situation all around.  

I'm really sorry that this happened to you.  No one has the right to be mean to you.

Critique can be helpful for some but apparently it is discouraging to others.  How can you tell which is which?  

Another quick point.......I really don't see how I could give someone doing a full blown rock song an honest critique.  Would it really be fair for me to put up a critique saying...."You sound like you are screaming" and give them a low score when all the rock fans are loving it?   I would probably have that person and everyone who liked it mad at me.  

I will just stick with the "encouragement" approach.  I don't believe that encouraging someone is lying.  I think you can usually find something positive to say and it does keep them singing.  I'm here to have fun and stuff like this really makes it unpleasant.

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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 2:00 pm 
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Good question about the comments and ranks on songs in genres you're not a big fan of.  I think the best solution to the type of situation a10cgirl mentioned might be to comment but not rank.  That way you can tell them your opinion without having your lack of appreciation for the genre kill their rank.  You could say something like, "I'm not a big fan of hard rock and don't understand why the lyrics have to be screamed out.  I prefer softer vocals."  Of course this may not work if something intrinsic to the style bothers you, e.g.: "I don't understand this rap song.  No one is singing, they're just rhyming words to the rhythm."  Well, that's rap.   Hard rock isn't always screamed out.  There's a gray area there, I suppose.

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