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Hey all been using PCDJ-KJ for over a year and I hear all this talk of MTU.  Can someone that has used both tell me what is better in PCDJ-KJ or MTU.  I am just wonderin how much more stuff is in other programs.  Thanks

First, I have not used pckj. But from What I have heard from other users, It has a problem in that it crashes during shows. Using MTU "Hoster" I have never had it crash even once. I even have enough confidence in it to let the wife work the computer for a show. and  that is saying a lot. I have been using it for close to 2 years now with no problems.

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The same here as with Dr. D.

I just recently purchased the PCDJ-REDvrm & PCDJKJ software.  I have it installed and have started the task of ripping all my cdgs and cds to the hardrive.  I'm, also interested in any real experiences with this system.  I'm estimating weeks before I take the system live and hopefully I'll have no problems.

I prefer the way Hoster combines the files into 1 instead of having to have 2 separate files for each song or having to zip both files to it's own folder.  I also prefer the sound quality of the Hoster's .kma format (based on WIndows .wma) vs the mp3g format.

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I'm wondering if PCDJ will work with MTU. I currently use MTU and I'm very happy with it but it has crashed on me lately when I try to import a CDG during a show (If Dr.D or anyone familar with this could let me know if its happen to them and why I would Apprec.). I would like to use PCDJ along with MTU if they are compatible.  :oh yeah:

I use windows media player with it, and havent had any problems. I havent tried pcdj red. I have all my files in wma format, and have tried an old version of pcdj but it wouldnt work with the .wma files. I much prefer the .kma and .wma encoding to the mp3.

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JAMKARAOKE... All I can say is there are a few glitches that can screw you up with PCDJ-KJ.  You might want to check out the PCDJ forums.  One issue that bugs us users is the Kamikaze function, with a small library it really isnt noticed much, but as your library increases in size that darn Kamikaze refreshes itself and can take a long time.  There are work arounds for it and they can be found in the PCDJ forums.  Have you ever used the VRM software from PCDJ (ie. RED VRM, FX)?  You may run into problems with the software if you don't optomize your system, you may get studders and sound drops.  I also don't recommend using the Ripper in PCDJ to Rip Karaoke because you can't control the drive speed and I have found that it Rips too fast and can screw up the cdg images, use Audiograbber and set it to rip at about 3X.  Any other questions let me know and I will be glad to help you out and there are a lot of great people in the PCDJ forums that can help.

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Tnanks for the info , I've been on the forums over at PCDJ and as this is my first attempt at going computerized I haven't actually run live with any system for Dj or Kj'ing.  As with anything else there are always pros & cons and hopefully the pros outweigh the cons..time will tell.   I've had many suggestions on using audiograbber as the ripper of choice and thats the way I'll go for my CDGS.  For my regular mix/dj music I'm just riipinmg that with musicbox deluxe --seems simple

Hi,
i´ve been using Hoster for 3 Years now and i can highly reccommend it.I have tried almost every available bit of Karaoke Software out there(there isn´t too much!).I have never once(swear it) had it crash on me during a show.
The only disadvantage is having to run a second player for interim music during a show.Unless you have a big screen(i have), it becomes pretty confusing switching between software.
Now i know the present version lets you play mp3/wma as well,however there is nothing worse than abrubtly cutting of a song or Karaoke title to play another track.You all know that it all has to blend .
Conversion to kma is a pain however Hoster is picking up speed.It is now possible to play cd+g files.
Look out (i sound like an advertisement!) for the next version this month which converts cd+g to kma and at lasts adds a fade in/out control for audio.
Undoubtedly the best thing about Hoster are the continual upgrades and changes made at the request of the users in the Forums.They listen.
Hoster keeps it simple which in turn makes it reliable.Problems arise mainly from users mistakes.

I have used winamp as my 1st method of pc karaoke back as far as 1999. Since then I most recently switched to PCKJ. I have had no problems even running on my slower 900Mhz machines. The only thing I do not like is the library, I have organized my own and just use windows folders that are organized by disc manufactor and disc number.

I think the biggest problem with their library is that it only goes 2 levels deep, I know that this is going to be fixed in their update due to come out this summer when they completely re-do their audio engine.  I know that I was unimpressed at first because I was a solid RED user and it was completely different and I hear their new product will be even more different.  I have used Win amp and see nothing wrong with it, in fact I use it sometimes and It is also my backup if FX goes down.  It was a pleasure talkin to you.

PCDJ RED rocked... I still use the older versions for music and winamp for karaoke...  their KJ module and FX versions are way different from the Red version... too many bells and whistles and they got away from what Red was good for- dual music player and easy to set up your playlists etc...

Mtu, you can store the files anyway you want. it stores a separate database with the songs on it. you don't have to look for a song in a folder.

type in a few letters of the title or artist, and it will search, and display. Then you highlight and click add.

Done.

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Tig   you are absolutely right.  The Vrm software did add quite a few options, but if properly configured you shouldnt have problems.  You could buy the cheapest VRM which is blue and it is pretty much the same setup as the old red, but will allow you to use WMA files, like from Napster which a lot of DJ's are starting to use.

If I were a KJ, I would use the only Pro software available on the market today and it's call Hoster from MTU!  All others might be good but to me, it's for home only!

Hey, just my opinion here

it may be your opinion Mikey, but you keep adding the title "Pro" onto it. Like if you pay for it it's going to make it that much more PROFESSIONAL? There are LOTS of options out there for computerized karaoke.

I run a PROfessional show using winamp. But you don't see me putting down other software, unless it's in retaliation to what YOU post. I wish you'd just let it go. We've had this discussion before, but you just love to put your little dig in there.

Hey Knightshow, In winamp how do you seperate your karaoke files from your mp3s.  I really dont use winamp, but there are some things I like about it.  And as far as using different players, the player you are using doesnt make you a Pro, Your show and how you interact with patrons is what makes you a pro.

Ive been using Roxbox and love it.  Found out the other day u can click on the artist tab in the search box and it alpabetizes  the artists in order or click on title tab and it alpabetizes with the title.

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Brian,

When you rip the files, you can rip them either into .bin, or .mp3+g with Audiograbber. MP3+G is two seperate files with identical names. Only the extentions are different. .mp3 and .cdg.

I keep them in their own folders. Ease of use only, not necessary to use them that way though.

Once winamp has the subcode installed, merely playing or enqueing the .mp3 will bring up the .cdg window... winamp activates the screen for you.

For purposes of other rippers, if you rip with cdrwin or other types, you need to rip to .bin files. THEN you need to convert the .bin files to .mp3g. I prefer mp3toolz to do this.

Then you can .zip the files. Once zipped, you can unzip them into their own folders.

But again, that part's not necessary. You can just have a disc with 30 files in it (for 15 track selections, such as a spotlight), rather than the 15 you really use. That part is cosmetics only.