Karaoke Forums

Gilly, and I've always been one of the first to say I do care what others think...
I don't pretend not to.  I've never pretended to be strong, or tough.

Yet I also never claimed YOU aren't sincere either. I think you care what others think to a degree.

I don't pretend anything.



Well, sometimes I pretend to be the prince waking up sleeping beauty... or, i pretend to be a horse... but, that is PRETEND play with mydaughter. can't help that.. If I could, i would.... I NEVER get to be a princess!

I care what others think.. otherwise you couldn't have  a conversation with them.. if they couldn't share what they thought. Other peoples opinions of myself, however, are fairly unimportant to me. MY opinions of myself, however, ARE.


Anyways, enough of this. It isn't as though I can REALLY reply! The second i DO, you have changed what you have said, and edited more in, or taken some out, and I have to make a NEW post!

AHHH!


Have a good night.

Gilly, the "goofy",  or "funny" folks in the sense I was using those terms, are those that pretend to not care what others think, those that mock those of us that get upset when others act certain ways, pretend to be "removed" yet when watched over a short time are the ones that get even more agitated  than those they accuse of being the "Drama queens".  It seems  so much "healthier" for people to say, "You folks don't mean that much to me", and weak to say, "I care what you folks think".

Yet the reality is most DO care what others think in places where they spend hours daily, and to admit to caring, shouldn't be mocked. MOST of the mockers are pretending to be tough.

My reply was to this post, as well as what Sheree stated, and a few others when this topic appeared in the past.  I agree with what Tigger has stated here, and was backing it up with my own experiences online.




 
[/quote]

[font=georgia]Well.. I am blessed enough to have usually gotten more than 10 views on all of my songs.  Maybe not comments, but at least on views.  And I have also been blessed enough to have a good amount of views on even those genres which are a little less common (classical, non english).  I think because I do so many different kinds of music, people don't mind the odd classical or non english song every now and then.. at least that's my take on it.  I think if I was subbing nothing but classical music, people would probably get bored with it, unfortunately and not be so inclined to pop in and listen to them.  And those songs are usually the ones that take a while to GET a lot of views.  They tend to be the "trickle" effect...  where I get only a few views initially (around 10 or so) and then as the song is left there for a while and people come in to check out what you've done, the song views go up and up.

I won't lie and say that I don't care what people think of me, as I am VERY sensitive and tend to go too far THAT way in caring TOO much what people think.  I've gotten better at it, and have learned to put things into perspective, but i'll not deny the initial sting that I feel when I've been rejected or feel rejected in some way, whether it be socially or my singing and whether it be real rejection or just imagined (as it often is with me.. i tend to look too much into things, and always seem to think people only "tolerate" and not really "like" me).  After the initial rejection though, I tend to think things through and put them in perspective, and "talk" myself into being rational and not taking so much to heart

And yes.. I use this interenet in some ways as a medicine or some kind of therapy.  I've been so dissapointed with my life and where it's going at times, and this is always a place that I end up turning to to soothe my battered soul and make me believe that I AM ok, and worthy of pressing forward..[/font]

_________________
[scroll][/scroll]

[font=andalus]We Are the Music Makers, and We are the Dreamers of Dreams...
We are the Movers and Shakers of the World Forever it Seems...[/font]

WOW Jazzy I love how open you just were! I didn't know you had times of sensitivity like that on this site or in general, since you are one of the top best singers here without a doubt. That is reassuring. Thx for saying all that.

JAzzy, I was also impressed at how open you just were;) but, then, I have always noticed that about you, and admired it;)


I think MOST people simply tolerate me, and not exactly "like" me, but, that is to be expected, when you are me. At least, i know that the ones who DO like me, happily overlooked my odd flaws, and got past tolerating me, to knowing me, and appreciating me. But at first, I feel that am met with a strange "tolerance". Not just online, but, in general. Now that I am a stay at home mommy, and all of my friends have their own lives, in other parts of the country, or in medical school, or university, or what not, I tend to turn to my friends online to entertain me, or to entertain. Much cheaper on my phone bill, then calling up one of my "Friends":)  But, when it comes down to it, I don't care so much what people think, only because, no matter WHAT people think of me, I am who I am, and haven't changed, and don't plan to in the future. I have been through too much self doubt, etc when I was young, to worry about that kind of thing now;) SO, when I SAY that I don't "care", I mean, that I don't let things bother me. I let most things slide off of me... you know, the whole, sticks and stones deal.... I'm rubber and your glue, kinda thing:) Which is quite helpful, especially on a site like this, where you are sharing a personal part of you, etc (I mean, in the showcase, singing)....

never mind. Blah. Poof, I disappear.

Jazzy, I think this issue might even go beyond "classical" in general. Some of us that can enjoy a classical song such as Franz Liszt's "Hungarian Rhapsody #2", which IMHO, isn't far from "Rock" with it's energy and flamboyance.  Even Beethovens Symphony #5 perhaps don't have the issue with "classical" per se.

My own feelings on much of the classical "vocal" works however, is that they are more conservative sounding  (for lack of a better adjective), and what many might today feel is a pretty insipid style...like comparing liver to cheesecake perhaps...

I grew up around Opera.  I even got a certain amount of Opera crammed down my throat  (so-to-speak), Studied classical instrumental music for awhile, yet walked away never to look back when something more "tasteful" (for me) came along.

i too have to say that i really dont care what people think about me....mainly because like vixen...singing is pretty much my stress reliever...might sound cheesy but my singing lets me have an hour or two of complete stress and problem free time...and its wonderful....so wether the outcome is great or not...it doesnt really matter...i just sing mainly for that reason....so if someone decides to say guess what Jose i dont like you...then my response is go have yourself a cookie...low in fat preferably...even though some of the taste might be lost...but ohh well, life is full of sacrifices.....damm i want a cookie now...see what you all started...AgHhhhh!!!!!!!!!

,   At least you aren't craving cheesecake now.  This might be another 3AM duncan donuts run for the next best thing.

gilly hun? you crack me up....i just love ur sense of humor, always have.....as far as my singing goes i really don't care what u think.....all i want is for you to be true to urself...if u like it? tell me so...if not? then tell me so....i really don't care either way....my best friends could tell me they don't like the way i sing a song r songs, and i would ask why....and if thats what they trurly feel then who am i to disagree with how they feel?  some like the way i sing...some don't...thats life.....and thats the way it is in every aspect of life....i may not like an actor that you just love....r a movie r a singer.....i don't feel its lieing to ones self to be able to accent what others truly feel, i know that i can sing....how good i can sing is up to each person to decide......what i feel was a very good job on a song, others may not even like, its happened before on this site....big deal....i feel i'm an 8 on singing sometimes a 7....if you truly feel i'm a 5 r a 6 thats fine,  others may think i'm a 9 r 10, so it evens out....and if it doesn't? still no biggie....i think its all in being secure in ur singing r anything else for that matter....I know i can sing....how good i can sing is left up to you to decide....but in the end i will still know i can sing....i won't say that i don't like nice comments just like everyone else....but if u were to hit me with a 5 r 6...and tell me what you honestly feel was wrong r what you didn't like, i have no problem at all with that....if i want to hear a better singer then i am i just have to turn any corner and there someone will be....again thats just life....
   and gilly? you stay just the way you r....and don't you dare burn that roast.......
tigger? when ur secure in how you sing, i feel that others comments won't bother you near as much.... all this is JMO....TAKE IT R LEAVE IT

ditto here ... I usually get anywhere from 10-25 comments... and about 20 -40 listens.  Often wondered what that meant, as Crystal has stated... but you also have to figure that a lot of non-members come here daily ... just to listen.... so its normal for listens to be quite a bit higher than comments.

As for classical.... when I'm in the mood..... I love to hear it.  I think it takes a truly talented and dedicated performer to make someone return time and again.  Kristi, If you are getting more listens and/or comments with each post ... consider that a good sign.  But..... don't EXPECT anything..... 'cause as Jason pointed out... its been VERY quiet around here lately.  I think everyone is experiencing the "lower listens/comments" phenomenon.  

Could "Spring Be In The Air" ... ???  :shock:

Hugz      :D

_________________
[shadow=tomato]If you want your significant other to pay attention to EVERY word you say::
  TALK IN YOUR SLEEP   [/shadow]  

Not often ive recieved less than 10 comments on my subs and on the odd occasion i have i admit to beating myself up about it.

Deep down i do care what people think of me and know i have an hard exterier and yet deep down have very low self esteem and confidence.

I admit to wearing a mask, and that mask for the most i keep on whilst i am on these sites...not many know the real me, i don't mix, people will only know the basics, and if i do ever confide in a person i then get scared and worried i am being judged....anyways enough of that.

My singing is the only talent i have ever possessed so of course i want to shine, i want to be good, i want people to enjoy my performances so if i do recieve less than 10 comments i do think oh god who have i upset now, what's wrong with me, was it really that dire a performance. This is something i have worked hard on over the last year of subbing songs online, and slowly i have began to chill and sit back and look at the real reasons why....peoples time, my own efforts of listening to others, how i present a song, the songs marketability...i.e is the song popular etc etc. I do believe for the main those are the reasons for lack of comments.

anyways thats ma little input

Some of us gravitate to particular internet areas because we share an interest that others on these particular sites appear to have.  Just the act of joining a site, getting to know others,  nurturing "friendships" over time (IMHO) is an indication that a person "cares" what others think.  NOT ALL others.  Caring also doesn't mean a person goes into a tailspin when something happens.

This is a social club. It's also a place where performers take a risk and expose something quite real about themselves. These places can also be venues where people can exchange ideas such as this,  and try to learn about balance. This is a VERY difficult area for me personally.

Umm.. Tigger... Phoenix IS "Dying Moose" .. Kristi changed her username a little while back...

Is Easter vacation time, or the last week in March a big vacation time ?   Chatrooms in other venues also appear to be slower. I wonder if internet activity is slower all over because of the time of year. I'm not one to travel anymore, so I just don't recall.

some people take some days off around Easter.. but I also figure that since the weather is warming up.. there will be a lot less activity around any sites like this in the next few weeks/months

LmAo I hear ya... hubby is the same way. 'Professional' musician, and he generally is honest with me about MY songs. Sure it hurts sometimes, but after a while you get used to really 'listening' to the feedback they give, and realize that in most cases, they are absolutely right... and you will improve if you take their advice.

Sorry to hijack

Actually my mom has listened to some of the classical in here, show too.  She listens to this type of music for hours each day.  I guess when you have a frame of reference, it makes listening much more enjoyable.  She has a much more sensitive ear too.  Thing that bothers me about straying from classical is that in a sense I feel it's like shooting myself in the foot.  It's a more difficult form of music than popular, and served to pick up my pace in music.  Yet when something isn't pleasant for you, I'm just not sure how easy it is to train yourself to like it. Aesthetically that is.

I could lock myself in a closet with a KORN cd for days.  I can't imagine I'd ever end up liking it.