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I was just a bit curious how you feel when you submit a song that is virtually ignored?

Never realy think about it; maybe thats just me. Normaly my songs got about 10 or more comments, and thats not because they are good. I know my song suck,. Those who come to listen are those who I normaly listened to.

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I do showtunes....

People don't understand showtunes....

People don't listen.....

I don't care.....

I care about the people who do listen....

This site is pretty much dead lately anyway....

JMHO
Jason

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I'll be honest with you.  You've asked this same question numerous times. You've received legitimate and truthful answers. Yet you don't seem to wish to accept these answers.  

  In the past 1/2 year your genre performed in SS has been 100% classical.  (you have one inspirational way back). Unfortuneately classical with all it's talent required, and complexities IS NOT a style many enjoy listening to.

   Just as there aren't many places you can find that hold classical karaoke contests (and you are quite aware of this). There is a reason for this !  Listeners in here are a microcosm of what you find elsewhere.  You have a huge geographic/age sampling in here.

I'd say the best you can do,  is get to know OTHERS that do somewhat obscure styles.  Get to know WHO the people are that tend to reciprocate comment-wise. ESPECIALLY get to know those that do other styles people don't seem to find particularly popular.

"popular" music,  might be termed that for a reason !

You can ask this question over and over as you've done.  Yet it's obvious that YOU are bothered by lack of comments and listeners. What others feel doesn't matter regarding this.

If your love is classical music,  keep performing it.  It's a great respectable style of music !   Yet DON'T take it personally, that others aren't attracted to it !

Learn to do what you love, and realize some do, and many do not share your interests. That doesn't make these interests ANY less appealing in quality.  Just uninteresting to those that don't enjoy them.

FACT:  In here the performer of classical music is at a disadvantage in terms of listening interest  when compared to a top 40, classic pop, country hits or EVEN when compared to showtunes most know.

There ARE ways that you can become proactive, and do something about the problem.  Rather than worry about why people aren't listening, you can join chat areas, and get to know other classical musicians on the internet.  Join classical boards, internet areas that share love for classical.  Bring a few classical vocalists you get to know in here. If you love a style that isn't getting recognition in a place you enjoy being in, try to remedy that actual problem.

I agree with Steven.

Although I do like to hear 'classical' pieces on occasion, I generally don't listen to them because I simply don't care for them much. I'm sure many feel the same way.

Of course, there are a few folks here I would listen to no matter what style they happen to do, but they are rare.

Sorry you're not getting many listens.

Again, Do NOT perceive this as a rejection of YOURSELF, or of classical music.  View this as classical requires a certain type of sophistication many do not share.

I've done classical music for my major when I was in college. Had to do recitals and the students were forced to go to these recitals for a grade. The teachers did it this way so that someone would show up. Otherwise it be just be my mom and dad in the audience . I love classical but I know that not everyone enjoys it. It is an AQUIRED taste. Like I know if I submit a NON-ENGLISH song, not many are going to listen bcuz it would probably be in a language they know nothing about. Tho, it  could be a popular song they have heard in english but I submitted the song in spanish;they would still not stop in to listen. Maybe your friends but thats it
So either don't worry about those who don't listen ( their loss I think )and just focus on those who do and focus on the fact that, that is what you enjoy singing and the hell with the others.
As how I feel about it, well it all depends. When I worked real hard on a song it MAY bother me but not always. Depends on my mood that day I guess I'm happy just getting atleast 5 comments.
Jess  

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well... I usually get quite a few views and not very many comments.... I dunno what that means... maybe they liked the song, so they clicked on it.....but were disappointed in my version? I dunno.... I almost ALWAYS get about twice as many veiws as comments. That's pretty normal for me...  *shrugs* don't matter either way

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Naaah... I don't think that's the case Crystal. I think some people just like to listen... if they keep listening then that's a good thing! I know my Mom is one of them... she listens to a lot of people here and has her favorites... but has never commented. I'm sure there are plenty of others that are just like her.

Kristi, I have to agree here with Steven... Classical is a tough sell. But if you love it then keep singin it and just realize the numbers will be low. Don't take it personal. Like Jess mentioned.. non-English has the same deal. Cocaine dealers aren't great salespeople.. they have a product that sells... weird analogy, I know.. (Got that from an Anthony Robbins seminar !)

RisingPhoenix, I totally understand how you feel with this. I think some people are simply more sensitive when it comes to this whole online-song-subbing-people-listening-and-commenting thing. I know because I'm one of them. No matter how many times I've tried to have a thick skin and thought I did, I didn't. It's just how I am, so for me I have to be careful with the subbing process so I don't let myself get upset. That's why I've taken such long breaks from it. That's why I've gotten into huge bruhahas before cuz I was so unhappy.

Just telling you all this because I completely understand and sympathize with how you're feeling. I too have felt the need to keep asking about my subs, online, the way you're doing. Obviously you wouldn't keep asking if you really didn't need to, so I truly hope people will oblige and give you the SUPPORT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

I've never understood when people anywhere are all "it doesn't bother me, it doesn't get to me" when they are ignored, or dissed perhaps. I find that so hard to believe. If nothing bothers them, then why are even engaging in an activity at all? How can they only feel the great feelings from kudos, but not feel hurt when they're being ignored? How is that possible??? I don't think it is. And this is not directed at anyone in particular here. Just wondering how this can be. If I was so apathetic about something, I wouldn't even bother to participate at all.

I think we all participate here because we put so much of ourselves into each song we sub, and that we truly care a great deal, no matter what we say to protect ourselves. And I think that is what Risingphoenix is experiencing. So dude, ya got my full support and comprehension.

You guys, remember that lady Dying Moose, who was actually going thru this very same thing cuz her subs were mostly classical? RisingPhoenix, see you're not the only one who's faced this dilemma of classical subs not getting many views or comments. I remember that Dying Moose wrote, more than once in the forms, about that.

So sweetie, like Steven said, I hope you do realize that it really isn't you at all, it is just the demand for popular subs, like Sheree alluded to. Yet even popular-genre subs go thru this!

I guess the bottom line is that for one, any kind of online interaction is difficult because of the one-dimensional factor (can't see each other for God's sake); and that two, right now people just like popular subs more. Maybe you should start a classical karaoke site...

Well see, I think if you focus on the those who do bother to listen and comment than I think it was well worth it. I do it for the joy of singing and at the same time, its a way of releasing stress for me.Yes, sometimes it bothers me and I may comment it to my bf but I keep subbin'. Some ppl may not like the way I interpret some songs, so choose to stay silent instead of being mean,maybe?My dad listens to some and he doesn't leave me comments buttttttttt when I go over to visit them on the weekends, he tells me and oh boy does he tell me ..He is a professional muscician and he is who I work for 2 days a week So some of the songs I sub on here maybe songs we are workin' on and I am using you all as guinea pigs
Anyways, it's not that it doesn't bother me but I am not gonna let it ruin my day either  :D

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I sure hear ya Tigger! I am not thick skinned either! I see people who act like they don't care and I wonder too.... why bother at all then. Performer's do care... or they wouldn't be performers. But... you have to be true to yourself. Hopefully, a few other's will like what you do and that is what inspires you to continue! It would be very hard to plug away if nobody cared to listen. I think the "I could care less" attitude is just a self defense mechanism!  :2cents:

I think it's like any artist who puts out an album... there has got to be at least ONE song on it that gets people's attention... or the album will flop! If there is one hit, then the other songs will at least get listened to..



BTW... RP IS Dying Moose... she's just come back and chose a new name.  :yes:

Watch the behaviour of most that say, "Who cares about what people on the internet think of me".  Watch for the behaviour that almost always contradicts the "Tough talk"  :)

These very same people USUALLY turn out to be those with the largest ego.

Some claim that the internet isn't "real", (even though the majority of their free time is spent arguing, and talking to people that "mean nothing to them").

There are 100's of thousands of internet chat areas (at least);  The "funny" characters are the ones that frequent ONE room for hours a day,  and claim "they don't care what people think" when obviously they have the bulk of their friendships on the internet, expend the energy and interest talking to the SAME people for time-spans that obviously excede any amount of time they'd have chatting with someone in real life. In this case submitting something artistic that you obviously take some pride in to "just type on a screen you could care less about".

The goofy folks aren't the individuals honest enough to admit they frequent an area because of "people".   That they have feelings that can be hurt.  That they submit something artistic of theirs, ASK for criticism, want comments, establish some obvious relationships on the net. Nothing wrong with NOT talking a talk, that most will in a short time realize you can't really walk.


Do all care about what EVERYONE on the net thinks about them ?  Of course not. Is the ability to apply balance to how much energy worrying about what others say or think a healthy thing to do ?   Sure.   Is being a "regular" anyplace, spending inordinate quantities of time in that place, yet ranting about how impervious to what others say or think, healthy  ?..... Who knows. I don't believe such a state exists. It's seldom honest however.

Braggarts,  well endowed males with 10 digit incomes, (and a 10 inch 5th digit), female super models, IQ's of 160, and tough folk are a dime a dozen on the internet.  People not afraid to admit they are "regulars" in a particular area because they wish to be apart of a social structure, and don't like feeling alienated are usually the genuine, "stronger" individuals.

Yet many also look for TOO much from those they don't REALLY know that well.  The internet can be a dangerous sole environment for the unstable person looking for comfort, and trying to "find themselves"

Steve- I disagree with a lot of what you just said above.. actually, MOST of it...... but, am not as inclined as you to actually sit here and type out why... (yes, I am lazy)... or.. maybe this is all not ... reeeeaal. Hmm... I just actually typed a lot of stuff, and then deleted it.. so, maybe I am not lazy afterall... just dumb. You simply seem to have put a LOT of thought into all of that, and my babbling will simply seem ridiculous when placed beside it....

Why did I leave THAT bit then?

I have no clue- bye bye.

Wow what a trip!!!! I didn't know RP was DM.

And ok I'll just get really deep here and admit that I am envious of those who don't let get things get to them. I WISH I could do that!! But maybe I shouldn't, cuz what if I then lost my ability for deep feelings otherwise?

I do agree with your very last paragraph Steven. For example, I am someone who struggles with self-esteem and, at times, emptiness, simply from my past. I do think that people like me tend to look most everywhere for validation, comfort, fulfillment. It can be a perilous trap looking for comfort on the internet. Sometimes you will get it, and sometimes you will get the worse nightmare you could imagine.

My point is that sensitive folk should be careful, probably everywhere.

Nah Gilly,  You make sense.  Yet after 11 years of AOL and IRC... I've yet to meet people that spend hours a day in the same places every day that genuinely aren't affected by others in these places.   Many that care the most, deny caring.

Tigger, I suppose I was saying "Don't believe that just because a person claims they don't care, they don't."  It's inconceivable that people spending hours a day every day of the year in the same place can remain unscathed by others comments in these places.  No need to be envious because they claim not to care.





There are some moderated rooms where a person can get support with this stuff, yet  physical and psychological delemma's need to look elsewhere for help  :)  That's just my opinion.  It's normal to care. Yet to care TOO much, and crave in these places isn't healthy.

I am a fairly insensitive b!tch then. Because I DON"T care what people think of me. I suppose that is also one of my biggest faults. I have a big mouth, and say whatever I want, without fearing judgement from others.... Oddly enough, I rarely GET it. If I have ever severely offended someone online, they have simply not told me. I don't fight with people in real life, and I certainly don't online. THings don't "get to me". Drives my husband nuts... how can you get angry with someone like me?

So, in most matters, no, i don't care what you all think of me. Just like I always say, sorry for rambling.. but, yet, I always do it anyways.


I have a lot of "friends" online, and many offline, but, none that I see regularly, because, I prefer my own company. I like being able to turn you all off, with the click of a mouse. Mean or not, real or not, i couldn't care less, and the people online who know me fairly well, KNOW that!


What I don't understand is you... You write these endless retorts.. but... I never quite understand you... You mention people who spend countless hours online, in chat rooms, etc.. but, isn't that what you do? What are you seeking online?

What is all of that about goofy folks, and funny characters anyways? I was a little confused.

Oh, heck, I am always confused, and my roast is getting dried up.