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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 1:16 am 
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I think i have posted a thread like this before...but! i have a song ready to sub with some bad language in....is this acceptable to post with a warning?

My friend came in for some strong opinions when he subbed his song without warnings as i pointed out in an earlier thread, so with warnings is it acceptable?

I know many say well my children use this site, and as a mother of 2 i can appreciate those views, however! i will say that neither of my children are allowed as of yet on the internet only when they are being monitored at school with their system which i know is child friendly, and should this site have to take responsibilty for what parents should be monitoring?

This is a touchy subject, i am umming and ahh ing as to whether i should sub it...i would love to sub it but dont want to get myself alianated and comments left that i was out of order in doing so, but for the main this site is mostly adults and if there is a warning there they can choose to listen or not....not decided....what's your views people on this subject?

Oh 1 other thing, the pop charts reflect society's acceptance of bad language no longer are the days where a song will be banned and not recieve radio play for the use of F words.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:40 am 
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well ive decided to take the bull by the horns and sub my song....don't all kill me cause i had some fun and giggles recording it hehehe and if ya find it offensive...sorry :-)

still be interested in your views people on the subject :-)


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I'd like to think that as long as it's not 'The Rodeo Song', 'Closer' or something similar most would be ok with a warning.

Personally, very little phases me, but since this is a 'family' site I'd be sure to put a warning on it.

I'm curious on something else though - what if it's sexually suggestive in nature?  I do a pretty mean Strokin' by Clarence Carter and I've considered it a little over the top (it has the 's' word in it once and it's 'suggestive').

Any thoughts on suggestive material?  Where do we draw the line on language?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 3:09 am 
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lmaoo well take a listen karaoke its up on the showcase now...aye its explicit...but actually this song reached no1 in the charts in a lot of countries...and ain't it the kids these days that buy the cd's especially the chart ones...sooo tell's ya something i guess hehehe

you get that strokin subbed that would be great to hear...and seriously i had the most fun ever singing that song that ive subbed...and for me thats what this site is about having fun and trying to learn if ya want with critique hehehe

thanks for ya feedback karaoke :-)


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Well, this is particularly interesting to me, since I just subbed a song with a 'bad word' in the title... or at least it used to be considered a 'bad word'. I believe FCC changed that a few years ago to allow the 'b' word to be used on radio and tv.

Anyway, I haven't gotten any flack from it so far *keeping fingers crossed*. I probably would have changed the title to remove the word, but I didn't see a way to do it and still have people recognize the song! lol


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The songs in question have been removed.

No submissions will be accepted on the site which have lyrics or titles that may contain words which can be found offensive to the general public.

Placing a "warning" on the submission only serves as a magnet to attract attention to it.

It is the policy of Karaoke Scene to not allow such submissions. Please from now on do not submit these types of songs. They will be removed.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:44 am 
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think that is a bit harsh especially how it had already recieved 9 comments and each in turn enjoyed the sub, but fair enough webguru.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:55 am 
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people i urge you to put your views here...and perhaps webguru would then put this to the big bosses of karaoke scene to perhaps review some of the rules of the site and listen to its members.

The song F U right back was no1 in the charts in many different countries, which means its a very popular song...as we all know the record industry relies on the younger generation for record sales...that in itself must show that language of this nature is far more acceptable these days :-)


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 10:12 am 
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I can fully understand why it was removed...

BUT...

My question is...

On many songs... The one Missy Is referring to F U Right Back included... A parental advisory label on the CD is all that is needed in a store...  Underage children can still purchase these songs, and listen to them, so why is an advisory warning seen here to be a magnet, and not as it is seen in the music industry?

Just my 2c...

Those subs don't bother me and I would have enjoyed hearing it...

Maybe you can send it to me Missy???

Brett xx


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 10:20 am 
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sure brett i will send it...and i did put warnings next to the title and huge warnings in capital letters on the description...people had the choice and before it was removed 9 people commented and enjoyed the song..so whilst i have to abide with the decisions of karaoke scene...i do think their rules on this subject are very out dated :-)


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I have to agree here..

Tho I truly don't think it's Phill coming down saying this, he's a representative of Karaoke Scene and he has to enforce their rules.

What I would hope tho, is that a warning would be sufficient to post a song that has adult language in it.  The Meredith Brooks song *itch...was played on every radio.  The majority of this site are adults...and for the most part, we act it.  I personally would like to be treated as an adult and not have someone censor things FOR me.

I firmly believe that if there is a warning posted, and a younger person chooses to head straight for it, that's a parental issue.  I don't believe it's Karaoke Scene's place to put those restrictions in place.

Another option (kindly suggested by Seby), is to have an "Over 18 Submission" tag when submitting...and then anyone who is 18+ in their profile can listen.  Of course ppl can always go change their profiles, but again, that's a Parental issue, NOT KS's.  

There's my $0.02....all due respect to you Phill...i'm sure we ALL respect the work you consistently do, and do above and beyond for KS.  This is just a tender subject....

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I personally don’t care for songs with bad language in them, although a mild d**n or b***h or b*****d might be ok, anything with the f word in it I find really in bad taste but not offensive as I have used that word from time to time albeit sparingly.

I think it is completely acceptable though as long as there is a warning.  If there is not, I wont listen to it.
Well that’s my .00000000000002 worth, for what it’s worth.


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Phil,

Can we get a ruling on bad language and what crosses the line?

Words that were taboo at one time are used widely now including on radio and on tv.  Elton John's song 'The *itch is back' is a good example of what would have been taboo in the 50's but is widely accepted language today.

I'm sure George Carlin's 7 words are out, but what about suggestive songs (like strokin') and words like itch, astard, etc.

If it's any word that wouldnt' be acceptable in a church I can deal with that but a ruling before I submit would be appreciated.   I'm pretty flexible all in all, just let me know where the line is so I can run up to it and stare at the other side. :wink:


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I'm going to start a thread under 'suggestions'. :)


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I'm glad someone asked this because I was wondering the same thing myself...it should be mentioned somewhere in the FAQ, don't you think??

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