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What Part Of Your Body Do You Sing From ?

Yes I know silly question. but just latley I have been sudying the Voice and different vocal techniques in my quest to find my own naturel voice.
ok first of all how do most of you sing ?
Like when you hear your talkie voice is it similar ?
do you sing quiet on the mic, like a whisper ? and then use the effects to lift your voice ?
do some people really sing from there nose ? or down there nose ?
who sings from the back of there throat ?
how many sing from there stomach ?

I am so confused where to start to sing in my naturel voice,

I'm Sure people like GENE PITNEY sings from down his nose, it worked for him ?

ROD STEWART/BRYAN ADAMS sing From there whisper of there naturel voice like there about to shout or something im sure, coz they talk like they sing ?

ELVIS/ORBISON?JOHNNY CASH all sound like they sing from the back of there throat ?

the list goes on..

I hear people on here and think Yeah i wanna sound like that, or WOW! how did he hit that note, etc etc, I'm not very technical with my mixing, so basically what you here is all of me straight of, apart from a little *quck verb/live reflection chamber effect* on cool edit
am i doing something wrong ?, do i need to learn more tricks, or am i just not talented enough to get the notes i want ?

When I do try to hit certain notes, it sounds like i am in amense pain, or I end up like im shouting instead of singing,
can anybody actually shout and stay in key ? hmmmm!

There are so many different kinds of singers on this site, surley i am not the only one who has pondered these thoughts, if anybody has any simple answers to some of these questions, I would be most grateful, as you will be helping me in my quest to find my own naturel voice

Well, you KNOW what i WANTED tos ay here... I sing outta my ______



but, I will keep that to myself:)



I don't know... I really don't, I think I generally sound exactly like my talking voice... but... then, I don't SING when I talk.... but, i do, have a strangely melodic speaking voice, like a lot of peaks and valleys, and I go up and down all the time.... whereas my husband is almost monotone. And, when I talk, I have that same gravelly edge that I do to the beginning of words when I sing.


And, when I sing, I just.. open my mouth, and sing. i don't think about anything, or where it is coming from. Usually i sound full, and, don't use much of a head voice... etc.. I am also very aware of my diaphragm, etc... because I played large brass instruments for so long, which I think interferred with the way i sing... i also used to have a mUCH higher voice then I do now, but, for some reason that changed when i was pregnant, and never went back.....


But, I generally sing quite softly, and it sounds louder that it is on a recording, because I sound so chesty (?).. most people think I belt alot... etc.

And, I don't do anythign special with effects... actually, i only just started using reverb a couple of months ago... so, I don't know anything about that:)


I would love to hear people submit clips of their speaking voices, to compare with their singy voices. ESP. you menephes.


ok, i babbled, and didn't help.. but, I am bored:)

ME TOO!!! It would be so neat to hear how everyone sounds just talkin' That should be a new genre... TALKY songs! ! maybe... introduce the song before you sing it.... maybe just "Hello everyone on singersshowcase! Here's my song"
that'd be cool, i think!

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I think (for me at least) that I try to keep my stomach and diaphragm as my center for singing, and then add in different techniques using my throat, jaw, tongue, lips, etc. For me, getting to use all the different parts of my little "singing system" or whatever is the funnest part!!

I've talked to Kass, many times in songs that I've subbed. But only cuz I just love her to death!!

Menephes1, In broadcasting, you speak from the diaphragm. In singing, you just keep doing what you're doing cuz I think you sound great!


Steve,
Alias... Kass's Outlaw

Go listen to 'dumbdrums'... he can

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Good question, my husband says I sing from my neck on most songs that I try, Neck! ???? . He said, try to sing from the stomach or the chest, I could'nt hit a note , when I was trying to sing those ways .

I guess what you sing naturally is your comfort zone, anything else could be helped by a few lessons. Thats if your serious about being a singer or just have the cash spare to go for it anyway. In my case, I have no intentions of being a singer but enjoy trying immensely. So I guess I'll be stuck with what I've got HeHe.

There is Dvds available over here, in the UK anyway, with singing lessons on, saves a lot of money and some are good. We bought our Daughter Amy one, but she has'nt really taken much notice of it as yet, it requires a lot of silly noise making and singing macaroni Ravioliiiiiiiiii higher and higher ol. You can just imagine us all when we first got it and all had a go, it was fun, while it lasted . I wander where that is now actually????

Gilly said ..


Gee your so lucky, for me its becoming a major job, everytime I open my mouth to sing .. im like .. am i to close to the mic.. will it pick up my p's and pops to much, am I gonna start in the right key, and if so for how long .. probably up to the chorous, then it all goes down hill,
all these things on my mind before i come in with the first line,

strmbreez said ...


funny you should say that, i have been pulling my face and jaw a lot latley trying to get the right notes in, so thats a normal thing then is it ? coool i must be making progress

syberchick said.....



yes I agree and this is the point I was trying to make, I mean I cant imagine Dumbdrums shouting his kids in off the street sounding like Rob Halford of Judas Priest,
Or when somebody is shouting and screaming, what is the difference to that of somebody screaming out the notes in a song to make it sound good ? is it different parts of the body making these noises ? one for shouting ya kids in for dinner and another for hitting those notes like on love changes everything, or like you say dumbdrums latest song highway to hell ?

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wowzeeers Jazzy that was very most helpful, i had to read it a couple of times for it to sink in a little ...
just one thing, what do you mean by ....

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I think thats also on the same lines of what summerluv just said..

i just open mi mouth and a noise comes out...dont know if you can call it singing

Last time I checked I sang out my mouth....

I know some people who play the butt trumpet but I don't know if I'd call that singing exactly...

I try to remember to breathe (not sing) from my diaphram. I guess it is supposed to help elevate strain on chest and throat... thereby letting those muscles that control your chords do their work.... it also keeps your chest (i.e., lungs and air supply) loosy goosy. Which is supposed to be good.

It seems to help...sometimes... but I still sing through my chords and out my mouth.

Sometimes, like when I try to sing Dwight Yoakum or the like, I mess around with my pallet and adams apple... fun, and it sure changes your sound A LOT....

Then there's the Willy Nelson songs... about 50% out the nose and you've got it.

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Oh yeah... meant to include this above...

Does anyone ever experience muscle fatigue/sourness in the back of the neck/base of the skull area? I get it now and then when I am working hard to finish a note(s) in a certain way... HELP ME>>> it HURTS!!

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Summer, you might want to check the other thread 'For Crystal' in the Singers Forum. We were talking about nasality there. Don't know if it would help you but it might be worth checking out.

Great post jazzy

After I began taking singing 'seriously', I too learned that it's a 'whole body effort' as you call it. That's when I really started learning about some of the techniques I've been trying to share with folks here.

I know that when you first *really* start learning to sing, it's a lot like the old game of patting your head and rubbing your tummy while hopping on one leg and fluttering your eyelashes heheh (well actually, it's even more complicated than that). BUT, the whole idea is to train your body to do the things you are trying to learn automatically, so it starts to become easier as time goes on.

I still have so much to learn about singing myself, it's always cool to read things like this from experienced folks. It allows the rest of us to benefit a little from their training.

okay, since theres so many super smart peeps in this forum, can I ask just a teensy question of ma' own? So... ready?!?? :: I practice singing probably about an hour a day (give or take .5 hrs 2-3 days out of the week b/c of school, work, etc.) but I keep up a pretty good schedule due to the fact that I would like to go professional someday. But it seems (especially in the winter but also in the summertime) that when a big singing contest or performance is coming up, bam! I suddenly get a cough that lasts about 2 weeks, my asthma acts up, etc. It goes away, like, a day or two before the performance and I've gotten used to it so I kind of prepare for it, but does anyone else have this happen to them? It's not like I'm not used to the stamina of the practise schedule, and I don't really get stage fright anymore. If this has happened, are there any good remedies? Do you think I'm OVER practising on a regular basis? Any suggestions would be helpful!!

Hi Storm, The same thing happens to ME! well I should say USE to happen to me.
Never fail a week or two or even a few days before a contest or a recording session.. BAM - cough or cold symptoms.
I tried the Vitamin C, E, B complex you name it.
I talked it over with my doc and he said to do a couple things.

First I drink Coffee.. I am addicted!! "Hi, my name is Dan and I am a coffee junkie"
A week or so before I need to sing I go to Chamomile Tea with Lemon.. if you drink a lot of coffee or caffeine soda, you get a headache the first couple days, but after a while boom.. yer voice is in top shape.
When not drinking Tea, drink lots of water.

Even though you may not feel like it your mind is making you skeered!
Really! You may not feel stage fright but your mind doesn't know that.
Lots of times it will dehydrate you and that is a lot of the problems.

Now this works for me, may not work for everyone else though.

Now to Topic.. not sure where I sing from... it kinda changes from song to song or style to style.. I think my speaking voice is a bit lower than my singing voice
I know I breath from the diaphragm.... Lots of theatre in my background so had to learn to "Belt" correctly.
Bubba

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Thanxssss jazzyyy....soem good stuff you wrote....ummm i have no clue where i sing from.......it just comes out....depends what im singing too....i guess....well im confusing myself so ill stop........and my talkie voice is really deep.....compared to my singing people think its another person..its funiiii.......