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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:32 am 
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OK, so I am a newbie, and I am just basically someone who likes to sing Karaoke at the club ?I go to.

I decided I wanted to sing a certain couple of songs in karaoke, but they just plain are nt available.

I got myself Power CD + G - used it on the evaluation mode to "karaokize" the two songs I wanted...I think I did okay. They are at least pretty close for a newbie...and of course, the CDG file has "evaluation" coming up a lot...I'd seen that on songs at the club I go to before, never knew what it meant, now I do...LOL!!

So what I want to know is this:

If for some reason these files to do work...is there someone here who could "karaokize" these two songs for me? They are the only two I want!! The club has just about anything else I want to sing, but not these two.

Please let me know if you could help if what I did does not work out.

I guess you might just be able to figure out a little something about me from my handle here...but, I will tell you the two songs in question...are both by Laura Jane Grace (Against Me!) and I LOVE her!! She so NAILS IT!!

The two songs are "True Trans Soul Rebel" and "Transgender Dysphoria Blues"

And now you DEFINITELY know something about me, LOL.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:38 pm 
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Just buy the software and you won't have to deal with the trial mode graphic. Once you make the two songs that you want right now, you will find other songs that you would like to sing as well and you'll already have the software to make them. Karaoke creating software gets easier to master the more you use it. If you have the songs already completed in trial mode, someone with the full service software might just be able to use the working files that you used (KBP files and mp3 backing tracks), to create zip files of the songs without the trial mode graphic in them. If you used vocal removal software to try to create a backing track, most people won't work with them because the quality is usually very poor.


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NO! plain and simple answer. It's not permitted to do even for personal use.
Go to karaoke.net and just buy the song there or request it there.


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karaokeniagarafalls wrote:
NO! plain and simple answer. It's not permitted to do even for personal use.
Go to karaoke.net and just buy the song there or request it there.



BULL!!! The only people trying to prevent people from using karaoke tracks is PEP and they are only policing Sound Choice and Chartbuster karaoke tracks. They go after people who have media shifted their own discs to their own computers based on the use of their copyrighted logos. A homemade track hasn't media shifted anything and they usually don't have any logo other than what the creator decided to use as a logo. I have yet to read any article about someone getting sued for using a home made track at their karaoke show and I don't think I ever will. I hope the original poster finds someone to make the songs that he or she is looking for. I don't think the original singer of the songs is looking to file a law suit against a fan who just wanted to sing a couple of songs who had no desire to cash in by selling copies of the songs. I've seen many home made tracks being used at karaoke shows over the years and no one has ever been harassed for using them.


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Karaoke Croaker wrote:
BULL!!! The only people trying to prevent people from using karaoke tracks is PEP and they are only policing Sound Choice and Chartbuster karaoke tracks. They go after people who have media shifted their own discs to their own computers based on the use of their copyrighted logos.


That is not even close to what our suits are about.

We "go after" people who never bought the discs in the first place. On extremely rare occasions, it turns out that we sued someone who did actually buy the discs, but they are not our target, and we work hard to avoid suing such people.


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JimHarrington wrote:
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BULL!!! The only people trying to prevent people from using karaoke tracks is PEP and they are only policing Sound Choice and Chartbuster karaoke tracks. They go after people who have media shifted their own discs to their own computers based on the use of their copyrighted logos.


That is not even close to what our suits are about.

We "go after" people who never bought the discs in the first place. On extremely rare occasions, it turns out that we sued someone who did actually buy the discs, but they are not our target, and we work hard to avoid suing such people.



Have you sued anyone for using a home made track at a karaoke show?


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karaokeniagarafalls wrote:
NO! plain and simple answer. It's not permitted to do even for personal use.
Go to karaoke.net and just buy the song there or request it there.
Sorry, for personal use only it is not illegal (well while it technically may be, it would NEVER be enforced for personal use) to make your own tracks - hopefully he buys an instrumental version, but even using a regular track & devocalizing is not illegal for private/personal use. Using in a show there COULD be issues though highly unlikely anything would ever come from it.

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Karaoke Croaker wrote:
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BULL!!! The only people trying to prevent people from using karaoke tracks is PEP and they are only policing Sound Choice and Chartbuster karaoke tracks. They go after people who have media shifted their own discs to their own computers based on the use of their copyrighted logos.


That is not even close to what our suits are about.

We "go after" people who never bought the discs in the first place. On extremely rare occasions, it turns out that we sued someone who did actually buy the discs, but they are not our target, and we work hard to avoid suing such people.



Have you sued anyone for using a home made track at a karaoke show?

Unless they used a SC track to make their own they have no teeth in that battle.

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Karaoke Croaker wrote:
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BULL!!! The only people trying to prevent people from using karaoke tracks is PEP and they are only policing Sound Choice and Chartbuster karaoke tracks. They go after people who have media shifted their own discs to their own computers based on the use of their copyrighted logos.


That is not even close to what our suits are about.

We "go after" people who never bought the discs in the first place. On extremely rare occasions, it turns out that we sued someone who did actually buy the discs, but they are not our target, and we work hard to avoid suing such people.



Have you sued anyone for using a home made track at a karaoke show?


When they incorporated our intellectual property into the track, yes, we have. But otherwise, no.

I was, however, responding to the wildly misleading characterization of our suits. Our targets are pirates, not 1:1 media-shifters.


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karaokeniagarafalls wrote:
NO! plain and simple answer. It's not permitted to do even for personal use.
Go to karaoke.net and just buy the song there or request it there.


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the original poster is looking for two songs that have never been made for karaoke so it is highly unlikely, if not impossible that he would be using Sound Choice tracks to make his homemade karaoke versions of the songs. That being said, if he's happy using vocal removal software to make his backing track, I can't see anyone trying to prevent him from singing his songs. Sound Choice sues people based on nothing but suspicion. If you play Sound Choice tracks from a hard drive instead of the original discs, they use that to initiate a law suit to make you prove that you own the discs. They assume that you don't own them and treat you as guilty until you prove that you're innocent, rather than presume that you are innocent. As long as you're not creating a splash screen that attempts to pass of your homemade karaoke tracks as Sound Choice tracks, you should be just fine singing those songs to your hearts content. I think that Jim and Kurt should do the right thing and get the band back together to at least make the two backing tracks for this guy...... just because it would be a nice gesture to the LGBT community. If they make the tracks, I'll volunteer to create the CDG files for them.


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Karaoke Croaker wrote:
just because it would be a nice gesture to the LGBT community.
Don't forget to add QIA to LGBT (LGBTQIA). We wouldn't want to leave anyone out. And just to clarify, my wife and I are heavily involved in the theater world and are close friends to dozens (or more) in the LGBTQIA community.

Our PC world is getting out of control.


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Sound Choice sues people based on nothing but suspicion. If you play Sound Choice tracks from a hard drive instead of the original discs, they use that to initiate a law suit to make you prove that you own the discs. They assume that you don't own them and treat you as guilty until you prove that you're innocent, rather than presume that you are innocent.


Please stop trying to make this thread about Sound Choice. It's tiresome.

We sue people based on reasonable suspicion derived from thorough investigations. These are not criminal cases. There is no presumption of innocence. If you don't like that, your complaint is with the courts and Congress, not with us.


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Niagara falls said it wasn't permitted to use homemade tracks, even for personal use. PEP is the only entity that expects people to pay for their permission to play certain karaoke tracks and a homemade karaoke track wouldn't fall under your umbrella of pressuring people to pay you to use karaoke tracks in public. PEP is the only predator out there trying to feed off of people who enjoy singing to an audience and the people who provide the opportunity to do so. If your investigators were so astute in their profession, we would be hearing about hundreds of court victories on a weekly basis. You keep talking about 90% of KJs are pirates yet you can't seem to catch very many of them. If there are so many of them it should be like shooting fish in a barrel but all the fish seem to be swimming just fine. It really seems like you're shooting blanks.


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QIA??? Really? How long is that Acronym going to get? Based on the song requests, I thought LGBT had it covered. Sorry. If I had issues with the alternative lifestyle community, I wouldn't have volunteered to make the graphics if Jim will provide the backing tracks for the original poster.


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Karaoke Croaker wrote:
Niagara falls said it wasn't permitted to use homemade tracks, even for personal use.


She's 100% correct on that score.

It is absolutely not legal to make karaoke tracks of any type without a license, unless you are the owner of the composition or the composition is in the public domain.

You are confusing "unlikely to be sued" with "legal."

The fact that you think any entity is capable of "hundreds of court victories per week" shows that you don't understand the court system at all.


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YOU HAVEN'T HAVE HUNDREDS OF VICTORIES IN SIX YEARS. Pirates are more and more prevalent every week and you are like the little boy with his finger in the dyke. Getting in trouble for using home made karaoke tracks is about as likely as getting a speeding ticket for doing 56 MPH in a 55 MPN zone. I'll take my chances. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. You and Kurt seem to keep shooting yourselves in the feet instead of shooting those fish in a barrel. You're like a baseball player hitting below the Mendoza line. Every now and then you get lucky and get a bunt single but we never hear about any home runs.


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I wonder if the original poster is ever gonna come back and check this thread?


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Probably not because someone turned it into a SC bash yet again!

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I wanted the guy to send me what he had made that he wasn't happy with to see if maybe I could fix it for him. I thought maybe he had a good backing track and just needed help with the graphics. I like the music of the two songs. they're just not songs that I would sing myself. If he used vocal removal software, it wouldn't be worth wasting my time to do graphics for a really bad devocalized track.


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