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I wish to thank all who have shared this one time wonderful place with me... I will never forget you... I spent way too many hours here, learned alot and was happy as I could be to find others who shared my love of music.

Hugs to those who are privately standing with me...I appreciate you...I can appreciate the fact you won't do it publically...My public stand for friends didn't go well as you can see... I very foolishly allowed myself to get caught up in the drama, even tho I knew better...

My house will be glad to have me back as I have given it less attention as I gave this more...

I would ask that you not marr my farewell with anymore insults as I assure you I am feeling plenty bad enough to make some people very very pleased....

I wish you all a Happy Holiday Season...

Connie

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Connie....I am with you for that very reason.

This site has turned into one big drama fest...with everyone complaining about rankings and critiques.

I am sick and tired as well of all the complaining about who gets a 9 and who deserves an 8 or why we are all only getting 10's....or the ones who get so easily offended and just can't walk away....have to drag it around for everyone to see.....

When Phil finally implements these new optinos maybe life here will return to normal....but for now, it is so not worth getting up in the morning....reading posts...and getting so pissed that I am shaking...

It is not worth the stress at all......

Chow guys! It was nice spending time with all of you

i cant take sides..cuz i love yall all..and the thread was too long to figure out who was what or what was who..

BUT I HATE WHEN PEOPLE LEAVE HERE UPSET.. GRRRRRRRRRRRRR

connie..this is a bump in the road..ive hit quite a few between this site and the other one..trust me..it goes away.and it gets better..
why better? cuz we start puttin things in a better persepective..bout whats TRULY important..

not everyone is willing to speak up.and that is their right..some of us..cant seem to just shut up..and thats a problem..im one of the cant seem to shut up sometimes variety..

JUST..TAKE A DEEP BREATH..REMEMBER WHATS IMPORTANT..AND SING..if people like it great if they dont..oh well..

I DONT HAVE A CLUE WHO IS RIGHT AND WHO IS WRONG AND AT THIS POINT..I DONT WANT TO KNOW.I JUST CARE BOUT YALL..AND HATE THIS..SEEMS ITS GETTIN TO BE THE THING TO GET ANGRY AND CALL PEOPLE OUT ROUND HERE..THIS REALLY NEEDS TO STOP..AND THE FORUM GO BACK TO BEING FUN AND INFORMATIVE..

I SAY WE ALL CALL A TRUCE..WORKS FOR COUNTRIES..WHY NOT FOR US?

GRRRRR NOW RIT..

Connie- You've been through tougher crap than what has been done on SS the last few days.

I'm gonna say a few things that may make you angry at me, but I hope not.........

In a private conversation in MSN, I told you some very very private personal things, things that only ONE other person from SS has heard.......and even they did not hear all that you did. I actually cried throughout our conversation, it was a bad thing for me to be sharing and I opened up to you.

And you know what- I left that MSN conversation a stronger person because of you. YOU told me- to quit being a whiner, that I was what mattered most in my life, that it was time I learned to think of ME first. And that whatever comes my way I should hold my head up high, take the good with the bad. You made me realize that things are usually not as bad as they seem. ( I did take your advice about how to "get my point across"...) girl, I can't EVEN share those details, but THANK YOU for that great suggestion.

You have said some awful things here, so has EVERYONE else who has been mixed up in this, myself included in another post here. (or, gosh, maybe 2 of em.........anywho)

Point is...things happen.....good, bad, and downright UGLY. But life goes on. Some things can not be taken back, some will never be forgotten. But you've said your apologies. Think this is the last time this kind of thing will happen here? NOPE. Just pick up what ya got left & go on. BUT DON'T YOU EVEN THINK ABOUT LEAVING HERE. Quit the forum if you must- this is where all has went wrong.

But there's this cool place called Singers Showcase (whole different web address yanno) where we all like to hang out & sing, comment, reply, sometimes rank, sometimes fluff, sometimes critique. And you have been an awesome face to see there, and added a wonderful voice to the choir of voices on those pages.

Rethink your decision girl. Just stay out of these darn threads. I think they need to end. By everbody.

Don't make me get all sweet and mushy..... it kinda blows that "tough redneck girl" image I've worked so hard to create here. (lol....okay, so YOU know different..... but I'm airing this for all to see) Cause you mean alot to ME. And, people can take sides if they want- I have friends attacking friends here, and have tried to remain out of it. But I can't let you go without trying to put my little self in front of you & hold you back.

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♥ Laugh your heart out, dance in the rain. Cherish the memories, ignore the pain. Love and learn, forget and forgive. Because you only have one life to live. ♥

And ritisroo, same goes for you.......and any others who are thinking of going.

I mean....if you're house gets invaded by termites or something...... do ya just say "Gosh- this is awful lets move out and give them the darn house"..............noooooooo, you try to repair the damage and work around......later on all is forgotten. (well, until the NEXT termite comes & invades)

Don't know why I keep using gosh darn bugs & insects as examples......Melly....what was IN that Tequila??

But, ritisroo, you are well liked here also, don't let all this schmuck make you go. Rethink it. Take the weekend off if you must, come back monday. This junk can't last forever. I know your great love of music, and you have come to love this place too.

PHIL------ DID YOU START SELLING FRONT ROW SEATS TO ALL THIS-----MAKE A MILLION, AND FLY OFF TO CANCUN AND FORGET ABOUT US?? LOCK SOME OF THESE DARN NASTY THREADS. SLAP US SILLY LIKE WE ALL NEED. THREATEN TO BOOT ANYONE WHO KEEPS IT UP. WE ARE A BUNCH OF UNDICIPLINED YOUNGUNS WHO NEED SOME GOSH DARN DIRECTION HERE.

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♥ Laugh your heart out, dance in the rain. Cherish the memories, ignore the pain. Love and learn, forget and forgive. Because you only have one life to live. ♥

Dear Connie:

I STAND BY YOU 100% in everything you have expressed on this forum........... I particularly want to thank you from the bottom of my heart, for standing up for me in this ridiculous turn of events lately.

You are truly a warm and caring human being. It's people like "you" that make this site so special, and made me want to join SS. I think the majority of people on this site are the same, with just a few odd ones here and there.

I realize sometimes people can get upset and say nasty things they surely will regret later. This is the way life goes. Don't take the nasty things, though, that people said to you, to heart. You know deep inside of yourself, just how special and kind a person you are, and "tons" of people on this site feel that same way too, about you.

I have only known you for a short while, and I am so proud to be able to call you my new friend.

This is your "home away from home" and it wouldn't feel right for YOU or for US if you weren't around anymore. A huge piece of sunshine would be missing.

Please reconsider, and don't leave us.


Great big Hug

Cindy

I’m gonna clear up a few things here and hope this will be the end of it. Things have pretty much calmed down and I’m happy about that.

I started my thread because Cindy publicly berated me for giving her what I believe and most people would agree and as is described on the SS as a very good rating. She believed I was trying to lower her score. I was not doing that. I was giving her my opinion of what I thought of her sub, as SHE REQUESTED. I also made the note: Great job, Cindy. I enjoyed it very much.” There was nothing whatsoever unkind about my comment or my ranking. That she took it as that bewildered me and still does.

Now, I am always extolling the virtures of kindness, am I not? Whenever in other forums I felt people were disrespecting I would surely offer my opinion that it was not right. I even said in one thread “When you lose respect, you lose everything”. I welcome and embrace ALL views, but not at the expense of anyone’s feelings. I was NOT hurting Cindy’s feelings on her sub, but she chose to hurt mine. She did it publicly and therefore I also took my feelings publicly, although my original intention was to PM her.

I have now read other situations where this has happened with the party in question and understand that there is a huge sensitivity issue involved. Had I known that, I surely would have stayed away from any subs of hers I considered less than 10 because that is all this individual seems to want.

I directed my thread to her and although I’m glad there were those that offered their opinions, unfortunately you decided to come to her defense in a vicious manner. You could have said, “Luly, I disagree with you, I thought she deserved a 10 on that sub” or disagreed on any number of other factors. Yet you chose to attack my character. I asked you to stop several times when I saw you getting heated and even told you to email me to explain what exactly you were referring to when you said I gave my picture to a married man. If you didn’t mean anything mean-spirited by that, I’ll eat my hat. Just the words “married man” are enough to infer that I’m doing something less than moral. I know what your intent was then, Connie and you can’t hide that no matter how many times you edit it. I have friends, both male and female I MSN with that I have exchanged pictures with. The pictures are not only of me but also of my family. There is absolutely nothing immoral about that. But the fact that you mentioned a married man brings about a lot of connotations. You know what you meant by that as well as myself as well as everyone else that has read that. We are not idiots here.

I’m past your ridiculous remarks about my morals, however I’d like to touch upon another issue. You make it sound like I’m some perfect prima donna by your remarks like “I gave birth to a brick” when I didn’t get a 10 or all the other garbage you wrote. The only thing I have ever given birth to is my precious daughter. I never got all 10’s then and I wouldn’t get all 10’s now if I were allowing ranking. I doubt anybody will ever get all 10’s cuz there are too many differing opinions out there. I’ve already told you why I deleted my 9’s. I ended up not allowing ranks either and that was as a result of all the turmoil that started a few months ago about rankings. It had nothing to do with my thread about my vibrato. I made one comment about him scoring me less, but that thread was all about the fact that I could not control my vibrato unless I chose to take music lessons and that it would have to be accepted as is. My ranking was not the main issue there.

I know I can talk til I’m blue in the face to you, but you’re set in your opinions. I just want to let folks out there know that although you have tried to slander me, it didn’t work. You had nothing constructive to say, so you chose to belittle yourself and try to belittle me by your vile comments. And you totally betrayed the trust Crystal had in you with her private messages.

You said you are leaving. Instead, why don’t you honestly work on a true apology from the heart and promise not to go low like this again. Although I will never trust you again, I am big enough to call a truce and try to make this place a pleasant experience again. I know you enjoy this site very much as I do. You’ve made a mistake, but you can learn from it. We all can.

This is so sad to me Connie...even after the things you said to some of us, we were still concerned about you and wondering if you were OK....no matter what you'd said to us, we were going to reach out to you because we wanted to offer our support to you. We can't make you take it. But nothing you say can take away the fact that people cared about you and looked past your words.

Most know, I talk a lot. but, i have nothing to say here, but .

I WROTE:
I would ask that you not marr my farewell with anymore insults as I assure you I am feeling plenty bad enough to make some people very very pleased....

I guess that was just too much to ask....You felt the deep need to come here and paint yourself a rose and Cindy and I some thorns, yet again..As if anyone could have missed the other threads where you expressed yourself so many many times...

The ONLY editing I did was to return the pages exactly as they were before, because you chose to pretend I had said sooooooooooo way much more than I actually said. Knightshow suggested after I apologized many times, and said what else can I do? that I edit out the hurtful picture remark, so I did...Then I realized you all had written it several times as well, as I mentioned in the next post, saying it would do no good ...Looking back I see that was a set up for me too....Then you just made a big deal about me editing, as though I had said more than I actually did....Not to mention all the horribly really ugly things you two said to me. You would think I was the very scum on the pond....

One error in judgement does not change who I am ....


Crystal wrote me a message while I was out having dinner with my husband... When it hit my mailbox it became mine to do with as I saw fit. She was stirring and goading me on in that thread accusing me of needing time to read my dictionary to hunt big words, etc....and when I had enough I posted it...It revealed much about her true feelings as opposed to the BS going on in the forum...She tried to say she never said she wished she could be like me, but I found it and showed it to her....then of course she said ooops....(and some more ugly stuff)

Actually Crystal said the thing to me in the other thread (does anyone really deserve a 1) which made me respond to her that she would probably be one of the people in the car yelling uglyness, which then began the whole speuw there where I was spoken to so horribly degradingly ugly by a person who doesn't know me from ADAM.

Mind you thats also where she (Crystal) said the people on the computer mean nothing to her, that its not "real life" or something to that effect...{go look it up if you want to see it} to which I responded that's where you and I are different, because I think the world of my friends here ....To me they are very real...AND I said this thinking hello...that's WHY I am here...
My subs were not hit by the offenders. I came to the forum to speak my peace about the wrongs done to people I considered to be my friends. I had worked the other days that this was going on and went there when I got a day off and had time to express my opinion...I was sick about the morale and the folks who no longer felt like even participating and believe me there were many...Many of us had chatted about it...

I LOVE SS....I have told everyone I see who likes music they need to come here, I was sick at heart for the days prior to coming forth with my opinion...Because what had been so much pleasure for so many was turning sour and we all (they know who they are) felt helpless about it.


I HAVE BEEN HERE DAILY WITH YOU PEOPLE FOR 5 MONTHS NOW....MY AVERAGE COMMENT NUMBER RUNS BETWEEN 700-900. I have been supportive to many offering to teach them the little I know...I have talked people into staying who wanted to leave...I have cried with, been cried upon, and shared with many folks I consider to be REAL friends...We have shared many a long conversation, and yes even prayers...

You took the very one who caused all this ruckus and allowed her to say oops, I don't know why I did that or what I think I heard that day that I dont hear this day on not just ONE sub, but many...(and trust me some WERE hurt) and embraced her as if she was your best friend...You watched as she ripped me to shreads in the forum and spoke to me like I was a worm. The things she said to me there were hideous and I thank the ones who came to my defense. Most of my friends try to avoid the forum like the plague and encourage me to. Its a shame I didn't listen...


I KNOW FOR SURE I HAVE BEEN A GOOD POSITIVE INFLUENCE TO SINGERS SHOWCASE AND knowing that for sure, I will be damned if I will accept the ugly comments made to me by ANY of you...meaning syber, Luly or Crystal.......I know who I am and I know what I am...and I know who my friends are here....On that you can rest assured...I have been contacted today by many of them...

I have apologized about 6 times and I think I am tired of apologizing...Now, I am to the point where I think a few of you owe me an apology....and if you don't think so then you might go reread some of the horrible things you said to and about me and compare them to my small list of issues I stated..

My husband cannot believe or understand why I let this bother me. But those of you who love this place, really love this place, know how deeply we cherish our time here.

I sure know that I am not the first to say things they later regretted, and God knows I won't be the last....Here or anywhere else in the walk of life. BUT it's pretty sick if you ask me that you embrace a stranger who made some bad calls and wounded some deeply and refuse to forgive someone who has spent the last 5 months of her life sharing with you everyday....

And again, I would ask you to go have a look at the front page of SS...It's different...

I would prefer you just let me leave you with these thoughts rather than come back here and write anything else that will make me feel worse than I already do, because it would not be in my best interest with all that is going on in my life...I hope you will grant me that much respect in exchange for the time I have invested with you fine folks...

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Well i've really stayed out of all this but have read it all a couple of times...
I'm shocked, saddened and a bit disgusted by what's gone on here the last couple of days. I don't think I'm alone in this...but since I really don't worry too much about my reputation here...I guess i'll just say what I think.

In regards to you leaving the site Connie...I don't know that it's truly necessary. But what I would suggest as an unbiased party here...is maybe take some time off.

I think it's obvious by your posts that something is going on in your real life...and that, combined with what has occurred on the site, may have just been too much for you to deal with at this time.

We've all seen you make comments on peoples submissions...and begin or reply to any number of threads on the forum. I've never seen you be this type of person.

So maybe it would be best for you to simply take some time away. That would give you time to deal with whatever is going on in your life. And I would truly hope it would give you the time to sit back and truly evaluate the type of person you are. What i've seen the last several days has been shocking. I don't honestly believe that you are the type of person to normally post these kinds of things.

I don't believe that you would normally betray friendships and confidences. I don't think you're the type of person to speak so negatively about people. So if I may...take some time...think about the type of person you are...and the type of person you really want to be. Think about what's truly important in life, and then make the choice to live that kind of life.

Real friendships can easily be made over the internet....and real people can (and have been) severely hurt by words on a screen. Regardless of the reasons why....losing your temper or what not....

If you wouldn't get up in front of a crowd of people in front of you and spout off about someone who trusted you...some of the nastiest, most negative comments i've seen of late....please don't do it here. Even as speaking in a Community Center in your hometown....THIS is THIS communities center. Think about that please.

And again, I'm not trying to make judgements here..and I haven't claimed one side or the other. But take the time to think about life...friendships...priorities...and who you truly want to be. Once you've found YOU again, I hope we see you again.


Sincerely,
Nicole

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Oh ma goodness.....I should have read all the new posts before wasting my time posting what I did, above. Wrote that before I saw the remnants of the slaughter below...Jeffrey Dahmer'd be proud. It's still sad, but God I hope it's over.

IT WAS NOT a set-up. You asked what more could you do to apologize? I said that it was none of my business, but to delete your posts would keep people from seeing the personal crap.

You didn't do that. You edited a few things, but still kept the personal and very private message, and continued to be hurt.

Now you're attacking me for your own errors, and for those that were involved in this??!! Absolutely unbelieveable.

Some people really DO need a reality check. You're mad and angry at the whole world, and viciously lashing out at everyone that's in your sites. Whatever. Any more words from you are the words of someone that has lost all sembalnce of reality as far as I'm concerned. I thought you were leaving? Yet here you are almost a day after, still lingering wondering what people are saying about you.

Am I sorry to see you go? Well, I WAS.

The only bad thing I said to you was that you were a bad friend. WHY did I say that to you, Connie? Because you were trying to sabotage my reputation here for no good reason than to make yourself look better. I never attacked you. You brought it all on yourself. I was the one attacked from the get-go by Cinderella. And I've been told left and right by different people that she's done it to someone else. I'm not the one trying to smell like a rose, everything I've said was right on and made every bit of sense. You were the one who took an issue I was trying to talk about civilly and turn it into an outright attack.

I extended the olive branch because I feel there's more here than meets the eye. There's a lot of stress during the holidays and you mentioned you were mad at me. I still don't know what you were mad at me about (you said this before this whole thing even started). Why don't you try PM'g me if you care to hash this out.

I think considering all I've had to endure from both and Cindy, to say I'm being generous at this time is underestimating it greatly.

If you don't care to discuss it with me privately, that's fine. We both know where we stand.

KNIGHTSHOW:

I deleted one line....and it is now back exactly as it was...thank God I didn't delete it all, its unknown what then you would have pretended I said..


It's there for all to see...and they have and so what....


The sun rose today. It will rise tomorrow too....Good Lord willing ...


I am no longer hurt or angry, I am just going to consider the source of the negative B.S. here....and say, oh well...as my friends have suggested I do...




LULY:

You said plenty to me....and about me....

And l repeat: One error in judgement does not change the person I am. I have been with you peeps for 5 months everyday....You know me...I apologized several times....I will not apologize again...

I will not accept any more feel bad from any of you...I also went back and read...and I am appalled by the things that have been said to and about me ... and I won't soon forget...I may have blown my stack, but I have never heard such degrading talk in my life...From both you and others....I'd say you paid me back in spades with your words to me...


Butterfly Girl:

I am just fine with the "TYPE" of person I am ....But thanks for your 10 cent analysis....BRUTAL!!



TIGGER:

If ya won't sing, then you aren't making any noises I want to hear.(especially since you seem to like JD, ) (too wierd)... IGNORING YOU...


TO MY TRUE FRIENDS:

Thanks for everything... !!

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Girls, Girls.................

Love is easy
Hate is wrong
Find the way, babe
Way back home
Give your heart
Love will never die
Or a little cloud will cry
We're cry
Be a dreamer - be a fool
Come and break all this rules
Better late than never done
For the children
We need a home

Give me peace on earth
Give me all your love
Say, that we won't fighting
For the peace of all
Give me peace on earth
Let the children sing
Give me all your love
For the little children
For the peace of all

Come together - turn a dream
For the children, love is all we need
All the wrongs don't make it right
For the children we will fight

Your true friends must all be in a mental ward.

Good bye, Connie. I should have known not to argue with a crazy person.

I sure have missed you Allstar! and I appreciate you standing up for me on that ugly ugly thread...

You taught me more than you even know you did...Can I borrow your mask and axe? I may need it to get out of here...

Love ya feller!
C

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