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Mikey, I'd love some cherry jello right now with lotsa whipped cream and a big plump cherry on top!! You are so deranged!! But that's why I luvs ya!!

I listened to her song, mostly cause of the heat this review gave out.

I've told her I'll give her an adequate review via PM if that's what she wants.

I DO think you're rating was right on... she's obviously a victim of too much fluff. Now she believes the kind things people have said, and the easy tens she's gotten.

Nothing like a dash of cold water (and your's wasn't so cold) to make people freak out.

That's just it...she doesn't want an adequate review. She's getting all over me cuz I gave "brought down" her score from 9.7 to 9.3!! Not even a whole point!! Makes ZERO sense. She wanted me to keep her score "up there" like the others and what I did she considers is in bad form cuz I decided to give her a LITTLE less. I might as well not have heard it and given her a 10 just to appease her.

I found out today you can not rank a person and it won't affect their score. That's my new policy.

well, Luly, no offense, but this is exactly why I was so much against the easy tens that people hand out cause they're being nice.

When you truly do give a critical review, and give someone a seven or eight, which are very good ranks, they hate you for it, cause they truly came to believe in their own superiority.

I understand your point, Matt.

I'm all for the fun too though and it's great giving and receiving 10's. To me, an 8 is pretty darn good as well. I NEVER meant anything mean by giving it, nor were my comments mean in any way. I told her I enjoyed her sub and she did a good job. I wasn't trying to bring down her score in any way, I really didn't even notice what score she had til she mentioned it and the fact that I had brought it down 1/4 of a point.

This stupid ranking thing has gotten people wild outta their minds.

That's why I like just comments. You can read every one of my almost 600 comments I've given and you'll see not once have I ever said anything remotely considered to be mean. I believe you should always look at the positive aspects of a sub and comment on that. You know I've said that before. I like to stay away from anything that even resembles negativity, which I understand is not always the best policy, but I do like to make people feel good. It’s funny that it came back to bite me in the butt when I was actually being nice!!

Oh TRUST me, I lOVE the fact that I had a ten at one point.

But when I subbed it, I knew it was maybe a seven or eight. people were very kind cause the song was very difficult... it's what burned me... cause here I am listening to MY OWN SUB, and I'm going, OHHH, that note went sour, HOLY I missed that one, OUCH...

and here's everyone's reviews:

WONDERFUL JOB
Spectactular, never heard better,
etc. etc. etc.

And I actually BEGAN to believe it. Until I asked my friend Tig to tell me what he honestly thought. ANd he began to dissect it... brought me back to reality QUICK! ! Enough to where I got a bit miffed at the wonderful people that were so kind.... man, I could have subbed a song like that to some competition, only to have it overwhelmingly rejected.

I'm glad my friend is rooted in the here and now, and not "gee, I better say something nice or I'll hurt his feelings".

I just wish everyone was that way... course, there are some fragile egos out there.

I'm soooo on the fence on that one, Matt. I don't have the heart to tell certain people when I think they're off key or something, so I try to make them feel good by focusing on the positive. Yes, I know there are people that are very serious and want to know the absolute truth, but I can't be one of the ones that will tell you that. That's just me. And I don't want to be shot down cuz I have too much of a heart to do that.

I think I am pretty open-minded and I certainly can see what you're saying. But what you're asking for I think most people on this site won't offer cuz they want to keep the site fun and light. However, there are people that will give you just what you want, and for that I'm glad. We should all be satisfied.

Now THIS is a good discussion. Civil, articulate posts between two people who see things differently yet are making an effort to graciously see the other's point of view, without attacks.

Beautifully said, Tigger!!

May there be peace on earth, and let it begin right here at Singer's Showcase!!!

you know, and that's all I've ever wanted...

good talkin' with the both of ya!

Same here, guys! Good night!!

Sorry..I know I am opening my mouth AGAIN where I probably should not......I just want to say one thing...

First...the reason why everyone gets so mad about the ranking thing is because of posts like this....and like Missy's that started the whole other therad.

I remember, Luly, what Connie is talking about...with your "Gotta Get this Off My Chest Post"

The Kinda same thing happened....you did not like that Tom guy always telling you about your vibrato...that you can not change...and that is fine.

I also remember one line that YOU wrote "It's not fair. It seems like he just wants give me a low score. " (and that is quoted from the thread....copied and pasted....exact)

Now....if she did not have a PM button, you could have asked Phil to relay the message or let him know...or you could have posted a thread to ask her to contact you by using your PM button.

I understand you were angry at her response....but there is no need to air this stuff.......which, again Knightshow, why your private comments button may turn out to work....because it can keep this stuff personal...rather than always on the forums....and I am truly beginning to see the light of your ideas

Sorry. that is just my two cents....and if it hurts some feelings, then well...I don't know becasue I, and many others, seem to have been doing that a lot lately

As far as I am concerned, until phil puts these changes into place....we should just stop critiqing all together, and he should just take that stupid raking button out all together because no one seems to understand how it works anyway.....and when the time comes that we can finally choose what we want, well....go for it.....

This has been such an unhappy place lately.....it is truly sad.

Sorry

wow I completely missed this thread.... cuz it said "to cinderella" so I ignored it cuz I don't know who Cinderella IS really!!

Luly, Matt, Tiggie... You've summed this up beautifully!! I couldnt 'agree more with ya Luly... I would be fricken THRILLED To get an 8 on my subs... I got a nine of my last one... I think it's FAR too HIGH!!
actually... this is the first ranking thing I've actually WATCHED cuz this is the only one I MEANT to have ranked!! ! the few that allowed ranks... it's only cuz I fergot to change the option thingie!! !! suffering from blonditis... (babbling)

the fact that people are gettin' there panties in a twist over 1/4 of a point is SO "out there" I'm almost speechless..... almost! ! the option should be
"no rank" and "rank (but only if you give me 10s)"

OH! one more thing...
HOW THE HECK DO YOU KNOW WHAT PPL RANK ANYWAYS???

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Excuse me I will be back soon, I am going to go put my boots on....

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gettin' your boots on?? Or going to look up some big words in the dictionary to sling back at us?

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to get my boots cuz the CRAP is getting deep...........................................................................................VERY DEEP

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deep? not in this thread.... the other one maybe

I thought this was quite civilized...... that is.... untill you came up with that slam against Tigger.... how long did it take u to think up that one?

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You're right about that, Rits...except he kept writing the same thing over and over and over again about my vibrato. You're talking about at least 4 subs. It was annoying as hell. And when that thread was over and done with, I said the lesson I learned was that I should have PM'd him. I TRIED to do that with Cindy, but when I looked at her profile, there was no PM button. Now that she's posted to the forum, there IS a PM button, I just didn't know where to look for it, like I already said. However, SHE made it public to begin with. And guess what, I DIDN"T GIVE HER A LOW SCORE, RITS!! I gave her an 8 which is=VERY GOOD!!

If I didn't come out here to defend myself, I would have exploded. You see, when you're geniunely nice to a person and you're thanked by receving sarcasm back, it just ain't right. Knowing you ritisroo, you wouldn't have stood for it either. Remember kcultist and the nonsense he tried to pull on us? What if we had let him get away with that?

This is more about her lack of appreciation for my kindness to her sub and her downright meanness when I actually give her a high score. As far as airing this stuff, she started the whole stupid thing. Yeah, maybe it's immature in some people's eyes to about this she started/he started stuff, but I will not allow anyone to trample on me, and I know for a fact that you won't either.

GEE HUN, HOW LONG DID IT TAKE YOU TO THINK UP THIS BS?




From: Crystal
To: HEADS TOGETHER
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 7:31 pm
Subject: hi connie
Connie, I didn't see your last post in that BIG thread untill just now. I just wanted u to know...
that no, I don't know what kind of life you lead. I don't know what kind of troubles you have... that wasn't the point of lettin you in on a little of my troubles... I just wanted to make it clear that I understood how people's feelings would get hurt... I wasn't tryin to have a competition about who's life is harder...etc. Im sorry for whatever troubles u in your life. If I offended you, I didn't mean to.

It's obvious that you don't think I'm a nice person... I am. I'm a ton of fun to be around. Unfortunatley I've gotten a little too hot-headed at times in this this site, it's mainly because I've come to care a lot about this site, and SINGING in general....I've come to regret those hot-headed times.... which is why I'm saying the things Im saying now.... about not letting this site "Get to you." it's not worth the anger. The two ppl I've had the most arguing and bickering with is Allstar and Missy... and both of those ppl I've said my peace to. I've PMd them both and called a truce (Allstar was a looooong time ago).... both have agreed to do the same. Missy actually said that I didn't even NEED to do that.... she knows what's it like to lose your head a little.... It's only natural to have arguments and disagreements, but it doesn't make me a bad person.

I know you may think I'm two-faced and saying that I'm making false apologies or whatever... I'm not... and it's your choice to believe me or not.
It may seem that I'm two-faced at times because one minute I have one opnion and the next... it's different... for example... I used to say "why rank? why critique? We're only here for fun... blah blah blah" and now I do want to be critiqued. I can see why you think that's being two-faced or hypocritical... I just simply changed my mind. When I was new to this site, it WAS just about karaoke and singing for the heck of it. Now I've become MORE passionate about singing and I realize that there are a lot of people with knowlege to share, and I would like to learn more... that's why I want to be critiqued now...
I don't even know if that's what u meant by being two-faced.... or whatever.

anyways... basically....I'm just trying to say that I wish you could see the positive sides of my personality and my posts... and to what I contribute to this site..... U seem to focus on only the negative aspects.
as I've said before... I have a ton of respect for you and for your nurturing qualities... I can see what a humble and peaceful person you are. I only wish I could be like you. I let myself get heated up, and I say things I shouldn't..... I apologize for that.

As for Tigrr27... yes I call him a friend.... but TRUST me... there's PLLLLENTY Of things he says that I don't agree with.... and the WAY he says them is definately sometimes mean-spirited. He knows where I don't agree with him. That's his choice to say the things he says.... but please don't lump me in with him. He has his opinions and I have mine.... just becuase we're friends doesnt' mean our opinions are the same. That being said... there are a TON of things he says that are just sarcastic jests... he's really not being "mean" he's just being sarcastic and quite funny at times... unfortunately it just gets taken the wrong way, and that's nobody's fault... 'cept maybe Tig's! ! for not wording it in a way that people will understand! You just kinda have to know him to understand his humor.

anyways... I'm babbling....

just wanted to apologize for offending you... and if you're friends with Missy and Allstar, I wanted you to know that I've apologized to them also.

Ok this PM is getting LOONG didn't mean to write you a book, just wanted to get these things off my chest, and i don't think a public forum is the place to do so.
-Crystal

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Oh my Lord......

Please let's talk civilly everyone.