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karaokeniagarafalls
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:06 pm |
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I didn't see much on Re:Sound in Canada so just wanted to share some insight on the company. Re:Sound is the Canadian not-for-profit music licensing company dedicated to obtaining fair compensation for artists and record companies for their performance rights. I contacted them the other day to get more insight and apparently it's another $140.00 CAD per year out of my hard earned dollars. Tariff 5.C is for Karaoke More info: http://www.resound.ca/tariffs
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jclaydon
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:58 pm |
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To the best of my knowledge, there is no performance right for karaoke, which is why if a venue pays SOCAN it can include karaoke*altho why its an upgrade on the form is unclear to me*
so I don't see why this group would be necessary unless you wanted to do like a live video stream/webcast of the performances.
-James
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karaokeniagarafalls
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:13 pm |
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Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:39 am Posts: 1735 Images: 12 Location: Niagara Falls, Ontario Canada Been Liked: 190 times
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jclaydon wrote: To the best of my knowledge, there is no performance right for karaoke, which is why if a venue pays SOCAN it can include karaoke*altho why its an upgrade on the form is unclear to me*
so I don't see why this group would be necessary unless you wanted to do like a live video stream/webcast of the performances.
-James On their site it says for karaoke "This license covers the use of recorded music for the purpose of karaoke at karaoke bars and similar establishments" Quote taken from http://www.resound.ca/tariffs Tariff 5C karaoke. I myself thought SOCAN covers this with the owners of the establishments. I'm gonna call re:sound again in the morning to get a more clear view on this.
Last edited by karaokeniagarafalls on Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:25 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Kirks Karaoke
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:23 pm |
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"various types of users, including radio stations, pay audio services, satellite radio companies, gyms, nightclubs, restaurants, retail establishments, and hotels." It looks like to me it the venue that pays not the Karaoke host. Just like in the USA.
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karaokeniagarafalls
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:26 pm |
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Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:39 am Posts: 1735 Images: 12 Location: Niagara Falls, Ontario Canada Been Liked: 190 times
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Kirks Karaoke wrote: "various types of users, including radio stations, pay audio services, satellite radio companies, gyms, nightclubs, restaurants, retail establishments, and hotels." It looks like to me it the venue that pays not the Karaoke host. Just like in the USA. I did find this PDF file explaining some differences between the two organizations: http://www.socan.ca/files/pdf/SOCAN_QA_SOCAN%20%20RE-SOUND_Eng._2013_0.pdfAgain, I'm gonna go to toronto to there office to get a clear view. I will have my $140 cash with me just in case.
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jclaydon
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:35 pm |
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i still say its a scam/unecessarily. If this re:sound company is claiming to represent the SOUND RECORDINGS, as stated in the PDF then they are unnecessary for karaoke because the copyrights to the SOUND RECORDINGS either belong to the karaoke producer that made the music, such as ZOOM or SBI in the UK or in the case of SOUNDCHOICE to Stinray music.
I seriously doubt that this group represents ANY of the karaoke producers.
-James
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Paradigm Karaoke
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:15 pm |
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Joined: Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:24 pm Posts: 5107 Location: Phoenix Az Been Liked: 1279 times
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lets ask... Jim, does this company represent and pay SC/PEP?
_________________ Paradigm Karaoke, The New Standard.......Shift Happens
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doowhatchulike
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:55 pm |
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Someone that knows him might want to PM him, in case he doesn't read the non-legal part of this forum...
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karaokeniagarafalls
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:31 pm |
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Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:39 am Posts: 1735 Images: 12 Location: Niagara Falls, Ontario Canada Been Liked: 190 times
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Quote: Why is Re:Sound’s Tariff 5 titled “Use of Music to Accompany Live Events”? It is called that because it applies to recorded music publicly performed at live events rather than music performed live and in-person such as a live performance by a band at a concert venue. By law, Re:Sound may only seek equitable remuneration in relation to the public performance or broadcast of recorded music, not live performances by musicians. Don’t let the word “live” confuse you. Source taken from the PDF File.
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timberlea
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:59 pm |
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That is for performance, not for media shifting. I've contacted Re:Sound, AVLA, and CMRRA. and none can give permission for media shifting due to the sync rights.
_________________ You can be strange but not a stranger
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karaokeniagarafalls
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 8:00 pm |
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timberlea wrote: That is for performance, not for media shifting. I've contacted Re:Sound, AVLA, and CMRRA. and none can give permission for media shifting due to the sync rights. Forgive me if this is wrong but isn't "media shifting" converting original format to alternate formats. I gave up even trying to change formats for the purpose of Technology. With SoundChoice (Pep Rocks offering the Help program at $200.00 per month it's just as easy to "purchase the Gem series with MP3+G format already.
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MtnKaraoke
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:54 am |
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Media shifting is taking a product and copying it from it's original media (container) to another media (container), and thereby creating a copy.
With regular CD's the copy usually changes format from Redbook audio to any number of formats with MP3 being one of the most common.
With CD+G's, the audio usually goes under the same change, but the graphic portion of the file is virtually unchanged.
The GEM series is intended for a specific, limited media shift. The fact that the file format is already MP3+G means that there is no format shift.
_________________ Never the same show twice!
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karaokeniagarafalls
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:38 pm |
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