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BruceFan4Life
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Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:59 pm |
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Brian A wrote: BruceFan4Life wrote: I'll take a self imposed time out to let you guys have control over your sand box. It's about time! Really? Which one of your parents was the chimpanzee? Was it your mom or your dad? Wonder how long it takes them to delete that one?
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Brian A
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Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:17 pm |
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BruceFan4Life wrote: Brian A wrote: BruceFan4Life wrote: I'll take a self imposed time out to let you guys have control over your sand box. It's about time! Really? Which one of your parents was the chimpanzee? Was it your mom or your dad?When some people can’t win an argument they resort to personal attacks. They not only will attack your character, they will even involve your family as best as they could. Really nice, Bruce. Your response was not even at a scale commensurate to what I posted. You just made it quite obvious that you haven’t got much of an argument & hence you have to resort to personal attacks. But, I’m not gonna play your games. I won’t stoop down to your level.
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BruceFan4Life
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Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:58 pm |
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Brian A wrote: BruceFan4Life wrote: Brian A wrote: BruceFan4Life wrote: I'll take a self imposed time out to let you guys have control over your sand box. It's about time! Really? Which one of your parents was the chimpanzee? Was it your mom or your dad?When some people can’t win an argument they resort to personal attacks. They not only will attack your character, they will even involve your family as best as they could. Really nice, Bruce. Your response was not even at a scale commensurate to what I posted. You just made it quite obvious that you haven’t got much of an argument & hence you have to resort to personal attacks. But, I’m not gonna play your games. I won’t stoop down to your level. Well, that's what happens when you bring a knife to a gunfight. I tried to walk away peacefully and take a break but you just had to poke me on my way out the door as if it wouldn't get back to me. No free cheap shots at my expense, Bonzo.
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chrisavis
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Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:36 am |
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hehehe "It's about time!" is considered a "cheap shot" now. Priceless.
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mrmarog
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Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:10 am |
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chrisavis wrote: hehehe "It's about time!" is considered a "cheap shot" now. Priceless. It only became a cheap shot because it got applause...... from me included. I once gave Bruce a very genuine compliment and he turned around and attacked me for it like a rabid dog. I have not responded to a single post of his until this cheap shot at Brian. Bruce, please take a break, make a few new songs, drink a few beers and get laid. Life could only get better after all that. Bruce, I do believe that you are an extremely serious karaoke enthusiast that has a very strong opinion on every aspect of it, but others are entitled their very strong opinions as well.
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Brian A
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Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:00 pm |
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mrmarog wrote: I once gave Bruce a very genuine compliment and he turned around and attacked me for it like a rabid dog. Bruce, I do believe that you are an extremely serious karaoke enthusiast that has a very strong opinion on every aspect of it, but others are entitled their very strong opinions as well. Agree! Bruce & I bickered once or twice before too so I kinda expected this kind of response coming from him. No surprise there. BruceFan4Life wrote: Well, that's what happens when you bring a knife to a gunfight. I tried to walk away peacefully and take a break but you just had to poke me on my way out the door as if it wouldn't get back to me. No free cheap shots at my expense, Bonzo. He just called me Bonzo! See what I mean? Attachment:
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Cueball
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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:30 am |
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Brian A wrote: He just called me Bonzo! See what I mean? What role/part did the Monkey play?
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Paradigm Karaoke
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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:29 am |
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oh, i misunderstood... i thought he compared you to one of the greatest rock drummers of all time. my mistake. Attachment:
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Robin Dean
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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:40 am |
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Paradigm Karaoke wrote: oh, i misunderstood... i thought he compared you to one of the greatest rock drummers of all time. my mistake.
Of topic, but the pic reminded me. Saw Bonham so wasted in St. Louis that he fell off his throne. Was not one of the shows to make the 'highlights reel'!
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ripman8
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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:12 am |
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BruceFan4Life wrote: I think that there are many karaoke hosts who started out as karaoke singers. They started out with a few of their own discs and their own karaoke machine at home and they wound up as very good singers because they had the ability to practice at home so when they went out to karaoke bars they stood out as very good performers. Fast forward some years and these people have now gotten a large collection of their own discs and they decide to be karaoke hosts. Now that they are in CONTROL of the show, they get to decide how often they will sing in the rotation to "show off" their skills. What they don't seem to realize is that they are no longer customers at a karaoke show. They are HOSTS of a karaoke show. Have you ever seen a Hostess at a restaurant ignore the long line of paying customers, waiting for tables, and sit down at a table and order some food during peak hours at the restaurant? Me either. A host is an Master of Ceremonies. he is not a singer. A host is Ed Sullivan. He is not the Beatles. Just do your job, Ed. Gotta tell ya Bruce, your analogies on this thread suck! Just not close enough to home to be considered mind changing.
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Brian A
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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:06 pm |
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Paradigm Karaoke wrote: oh, i misunderstood... i thought he compared you to one of the greatest rock drummers of all time. my mistake. Nope! Not even close. But I totally agree that John Henry Bonham was the best & the greatest rock drummer of all time. A tribute: “Bonzo, with his speed & power, the groove remains the same!”
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Product 19
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:59 pm |
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hail no, i don't sing when i host. i'd rather play music
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chrisavis
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 1:05 pm |
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Which came first - The karaoke host? or the karaoke singer?
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Smoothedge69
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:21 am |
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chrisavis wrote: I start every night with a mega-melody.
I start with Picture (singing both parts) leading into Total Eclipse of the Heart followed by Don't Stop Believing, and wrapping up with an extended cut version of War Pigs.
-Chris Chris, you should add God is Dead to that, or Bat Out of Hell!! .
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Smoothedge69
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:27 am |
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I sing first song. If the rotation is small, I stay in. If it gets busy, I take myself out. I do have people who want me to help with harmonies and stuff like that, or to do a duet. Sometimes, if I don't sing I actually get yelled at. .
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MtnKaraoke
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:04 am |
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I sing the first song and take myself out of the rotation at or about 10 singers.
I still "help" or duet when asked and occasionally I get requests.
Last Thursday, one of my long time regulars (and a friend) saw that I had taken myself out of the rotation and he put a song that he wanted me to sing under his name so he could give me his turn...
never had that happen before...
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Pjskaraokeuk
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:48 am |
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let her go - Passenger, i love it.
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karaoke koyote
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Unless its really busy I'll always sing the first song of the rotation. The reason is simple.. control. I don't sing the song 'I want' to sing, I sing the song that the night needs to set the direction of the show.
I run a high energy show, and always have. Not everyone does, but this formula has proven successful for me.
I try to work in duets with my regulars that are fun and entertaining for everyone. "Who says you can't go home" and "Like I'm Gonna lose you." are common, but it depends on the crowd and the night.
Its important to be entertaining, and positive, and a good first song by the host can set the tone and direction for the rotation. If everyone is singing sad songs and ballads its going to suck real fast. To me, karaoke is best when you have a combination of talent, average, and poor singers in the rotation. You can't have 'all ringers', and you can't have 'all poor' singers, you need a nice mix.
Most singers won't always play to the crowd. For example, you have a crowd of mostly older folks, but some young kid wants to sing Cage the Elephant. Its not going to go well.
But.. this is what I do, and its successful. I have a hefty, loyal, and enthusiastic following. Your mileage may vary.
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andrew3000
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:27 pm |
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I sing. The frequency with which I sing varies, but I sing, and don't know any good karaoke hosts that don't.
The truth here lies somewhere in the middle. At a certain point, I feel it necessary to back away, or perhaps restrict myself to duets only. I do sing duets when it's requested of me, and I feel like that's necessary in my role. To facilitate the kind of karaoke show you want to run - which I assume for most of us is a communal one in which everyone feels included - you kind of have to. Look, I'm not the songbird of my generation, but in a pool of karaoke singers, I'm pretty good. People want to sing with me, and I'm inclined to do it; sometimes, it's a fun duet that I rarely get to enjoy ("Suddenly Seymour", for example, when the theatre nerds show up), and sometimes I'm trying valiantly to pretend like I'm enjoying singing "Picture" for the thousandth time, but either way, if I can help a singer do what they want with their five minutes, I'm happy to.
I'm also often thrown curveballs by participants - both singing and non-singing participants - who would like to hear my take on a song. I've been known to take on some very embarrassing numbers on the behest of my clientele; sometimes I stick the landing and sometimes I beef it terribly, but either way, it's garnered me a reputation for being agreeable and up for anything, and it's certainly not lost me any fans. This, too, I believe to be a valid reason a KJ would step up and sing.
All that to say what others have said before me: there is no hard and fast rule. To say that it's never appropriate for a KJ to sing would be asinine and, I'd argue, patently false, for the reasons I've outlined above and more. (I haven't mentioned singing the opening song of the night because, honestly, I think that should be common sense for any working karaoke host.)
A closing anecdote: on our honeymoon, my wife and I took in some karaoke at a joint that had it six nights a week. We were only going to go once, but we had such a good time we stopped by the next night for seconds. A good deal of that was the host, who ran a tight and fair rotation, announced up front that his song marked the beginning of each rotation, and gamely performed requests for him (betraying an encyclopedic knowledge of music in the process). I have no problem saying that I believe he was the best karaoke host I'd ever seen, and he made me want to try and strive for his level of quality back home at my own shows. We revisited the scene of our honeymoon four years later, and were delighted to find that the same joint was still running karaoke six nights a week. Unfortunately, and we discovered this a couple of beers too late, the place had decided to cut costs and hire a different host. Everything from sound (absurd levels of echo rendering vocalists near-unintelligible) to mic presence (essentially an extended impression of Casey Kasem being strangled) to rotation (none to speak of - he seemed to place each successive slip in a line chronologically, thus causing multiple singers to sing three, even four times before people who submitted their songs scant seconds later sang one) was off. He, like the previous host, sang in every rotation, but when his rotation was severely mis-managed, and I found myself watching him sing (poorly, but that's not really the issue) multiple songs in between my two. (Yeah, two - there for three hours in a rotation of perhaps four singers, which is math I can't even figure out.) Those are the guys that piss people off. A tale of two hosts - both sang throughout the night, and yet it was the one who continued to sing at the top of every rotation even as it got absurdly busy that inspired me to do a better job, because regardless of rotation size or vocal ability, as a host, he was SIMPLY. BETTER.
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Pjskaraokeuk
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 1:15 am |
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MtnKaraoke wrote: I sing the first song and take myself out of the rotation at or about 10 singers.
I still "help" or duet when asked and occasionally I get requests.
Last Thursday, one of my long time regulars (and a friend) saw that I had taken myself out of the rotation and he put a song that he wanted me to sing under his name so he could give me his turn...
never had that happen before... When I was a youngster (about 1996) I used to put karaoke request in under a few different names, to get more goes
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