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There are plenty of folks here that don't have a clue as well.

Edit - corrected bad quoting

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-Chris

Would almost bet everything I own politicians haven't a clue about anything in the music industry - let alone the karaoke industry or what SC is doing for that matter. [/quote]

There are plenty of folks here that don't have a clue as well.[/quote]

If that is true Chris, it is really sad since only a few hosts come on these forums, and are even concerned enough, to try and understand the situation. The vast majority of hosts could care less about any of these piracy issues. They only want to run their business in peace and not be bothered, by anyone.

Personally, I think it is way PAST time for SC to give up this fruitless activity. Either get back to production, or close up shop and let the others pick up the pieces.

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I am the ONLY SANE 1 HERE

Not gonna happen, simply BECAUSE the majority of hosts are not here to read about the court failures, and how weak (or nonexistent) their legal position really is. This means that they still have the ability to intimidate these uneducated hosts out of a "settlement" fee. Why would they stop?

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

Deleted and moved further down (since The Lone Ranger insists on having his own personal agenda and is purposely deflecting the point I made to Joe to meet that need of his).

Does that go for manus also cue? The one's that used materials and didn't pay the owners the proper fees. Should they also get what they deserve? The one's who hired agents to run their recovery process and didn't properly oversee them. Should they get what they deserve also?

I don't care to respond to your question. I ONLY ADDRESSED what Joe had to say in his post.

Go and bait someone else!!!

My point is that we are go eager to hand out punishment, shouldn't the penalties be evenly doled out? If everyone truly got what they deserved just about everyone would be hurting to some extent. There is also the question as to who determines who should be administering this punishment? A lot of people are really good at dishing it out, like my dad use to tell me "You gotta be able to take it".

Your point is to TAKE OVER EVERY SINGLE TOPIC that makes the mere mention of SC and turn it into YOUR OWN PERSONAL BASHING of SC (whenever you see the opportunity to do so). You won't give a straight answer to other people's questions when directly asked, and when you do, you only PICK AND CHOOSE what part of the questions you will respond to.

PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have fun trying, because I WON'T ANSWER your question to me!!!!

I didn't realize I was beating up on SC, they are the one's that started this legal process circus, seems if they start something, they should be willing get as good as they give. I'll try not to bully them cue, I wouldn't want to be seen as picking on poor little SC. Not every topic is anti SC I have tried to confine questions about SC's legal process to the piracy area.

I think that the "majority of hosts here" (in this forum) have read enough about "the court failures, and how weak (or nonexistent) their legal position really is" throughout the last 1 or 2 years that this has been discussed ad nauseum. I believe that they are "educated" enough to know what they need to do, and SC is NOT going to "intimidate" these hosts (as you put it) into a settlement. Those here that wish to get audited and/or purchase a GEM series will do so for reasons that they have already stated... and I don't believe any of them here have stated that INTIMIDATION was a reason why they chose to do so.

Now, if you are referring to all those KJs out there who DON'T READ ANY of the Karaoke Forums (I'm sure you will agree that this subject has been talked to death on every other K-Forum imaginable), they might be susceptible to what you mentioned. There are also many KJs out there who many of us have spoken with about the whole legality situation, and their general responses have been, "Oh! You're just talking out of your A$$. Nothing is going to happen to me!" And since a large portion of them are Pirates who don't give a crap, well, don't they just deserve that to happen to them???????

There isn't a single host that I personally know in my area (Seattle) that reads any forums beyond Facebook. This includes dozens locally and many, many more across the western US. The only way that KJ's would know about the legal stuff in my area is -

To have been sued...
Know someone who go sued...
Read about it in the local karaoke magazine (which by all accounts is pretty much a dead magazine at this point)...
Heard about it through the grapevine...

Just like there is no centralized means of advertising about karaoke, there is no centralized means of staying abreast of karaoke related matters.

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-Chris

Yes Cue, I was refering to those hosts that do not follow the forums, since those who are forum followers are obviously aware of the situation. It's the non-forum hosts that will provide the pool in which "settlements" will be trolled.

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

Do we have any figures on how many hosts who owned their discs settled?

It's a secret.

We have never settled with hosts who showed they had the proper number of SC discs for their computer-based systems. Those hosts get an outright dismissal and thanks for their cooperation.

I don't think anyone here cares any longer. The Cheer Leaders have stated their position over and over and the pirates have abandoned this ship. The pirates know that they will just get targeted for posting their opinions on the subject so they stay on the down low. They're not going to hang out on a forum just so they can paint targets on their own backs. If you're not pro Sound Choice, you are labeled as a pirate whether you are one or not. What's the point of posting on a forum that is so one sided? And that is why it is so quiet around here these days. Ninety percent of KJs are apparently pirates and the pirates avoid this forum like the plague. Good planning!

Either that or what is the use in having a discussion where everyone has made up their own mind already? The idea that the manus are just as guilty as the pirates for the same offenses, is just too much for some to be able to handle. Everyone wants that truth, whether they can handle it is another matter. Maybe when the EMI case is over it will become more apparent that no one has the morale high ground. I'm just wondering if SC settles will it be a sign that they were guilty, like the hosts that settled with them were guilty, or was it simply a business decision to stop the bleeding? Who knows for sure?

Are you really suggesting we should be welcoming the pirates with open arms? Inviting them to participate in the forums and push a pirate agenda? Do you really believe that would make this a better place? You really believe that pro-piracy vs anti-piracy sparring on a forum is something people want to see?

The cheerleaders aren't even all that active here any longer. I propose the reason posting has dropped off is because people are tired of every post being turned into an anti-Sound Choice campaign. It certainly isn't because the cheerleaders are constantly talking about how awesome Sound Choice, audits, and certifications are.

I would also propose that times are changing. The newer generation of karaoke singers don't sit down at their laptops and read forums and then compose lengthy replies. If they read forums at all, it is on their smart phones and practically no one posts anything of any substance using a mobile phone. It just isn't conducive to the platform.

The reason for declining posts are probably much less nefarious than you want to believe....

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-Chris

btw.....If you look at the demographics of those who have actively posted over the past year and a half that I have been here, the majority admit to or can be deduced to be in their mid-30's and older (and my guess is that most are in their 40's or older). If this forum wants to survive another 10 years, they will have to figure out how to attract the 20 year olds.

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-Chris