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I got to be careful about that shifting, I know how much Jim and SC dislike any shifting. Doesn't everyone shift the conversation to what they want to talk about? Like Insane, Jim, tim etc.etc.etc.?

Your spectulation and my reality are nowhere near the same. My show rates are well above the average and my most recent added venue hired my services because of my audit status. He (the venue owner) knows I will not expose his venue to liability and he also wanted my services additionally since I offerded the SC brand and yes he is aware of the GEM series. Additionally I have been able to employ 2 host part time with libraries including SC and CB product. We have been able to use that as a selling point and in my market the venues are very aware and request those brands. Perhaps some host do not know how to sell their business to gain new business. I have never used my certificates as my primary sales tool but they do help reinforce the fact that I run my entertainment company as a serious legal business and not a hobby and do not support piracy and has resulted in making higher that average nightly fees. And yes, my market is very much saturated with bottom feeder hosts working for $100 still. Maybe it's time KJs learn to sell their services and not just quote a price and not be able to show value.

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Hey rumbolt if it's working for you great. Not all hosts have had positive experiences with touting the their connection with SC, I didn't say that they did. When I was hosting I never promoted one brand over another, I used what was available, actually not promoting SC at all, guess what I had more work than I could handle and gave away the excess. I still have venues calling me and wanting me to come out of retirement. That's not going to happen I like the way things are now, no headaches.

Headaches? Really? Not all host have a negative experience because they have a business relationship with SC. Your assumption that the majority of the hosts dislike the process that SC uses to recover "their" profit robbed from them by hosts that never actually paid for it (you can figure that out, your a "smart" guy).
Not that all my music has paid back it's original cost to me why would I reduce my price to undercut the cheaper guy? Why not instead raise my prices while giving my clients a better product then the next guy (and I am not talking about a specific brand of music but a better product in the way of all 'round experience) and if it includes the SC brand then as far as my singers and clients go they welcome it. After I spent time at Mobile Beat and speaking to KJs that represented a broad cross section of this country, only one had issues with SC. Many of the successful "working" KJs are not living and dying on what SC in the court system and use their product without "boycotting" the brand.

Give away your excess, why? You walked away from revenue. My solution has been to train and promote the additional business and putting qualified host into the venues all the while making a profit off of them too. Sure, there are some headaches with that but at the end of the day my checkbook and my wife are happy. If it were easy, everyone would be doing it like me. Several venues want my services but know they cannot afford me (they really can, they are just poor money managers and lousy business people) and they see the value of my brand. And I do it all while owning/leasing more than one gem set. Sometimes you have to spend money to make money. Have a profitable day!

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No venue to big or too small. From your den to the local club or event, we have the music most requested. Great sounding system!

LRNTSTFU!

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The headaches I was referring to were literally mine due to health issues, I was no longer able to do the daily grind of performing almost nightly. I had no headaches due to SC since I did not promote or use their product. I never said the majority of hosts have had a negative image of SC. If the truth is told the vast majority of hosts don't care about SC or anything discussed on this forum or others. They only want to be left alone and operate their business. From what I've seen many SC supporters have problems with their recovery methods. I'm not convinced that SC is a superior product compared to everything else. Zoom makes excellent product, as well as Mr. Entertainer and they are making new product, something SC has not been able to do for almost 5 years now.

As far a giving away work I could not handle never bothered me. I have always helped other hosts out, I never felt I had to cut others hosts throats to get work. By the same token others have thrown work to me that they were not suited to or able to do.
Also I covered for other hosts when I could, they knew I wouldn't steal their gig from them. Karaoke has always been hands on with me, a labor of love. I never wanted to corner the locale karaoke market, and if a show had my name on it, I didn't want to intrust it to others, no matter how good they are. Of course that is just me unlike others I have income from other sources and never wanted to put all my eggs in the karaoke service basket. Have a great day rumbolt!

P.S. Must be real boring on your Free site, that is why you are posting here, right?

Are you saying that Rumbolt shouldn't be allowed to post here just because he posts on some other site???... which, by the way, shouldn't be any of your concern!!!

I thought THIS is a Free site!!! For that matter, I don't know of any Karaoke Forum site that isn't Free.

I didn't come up with the name cue, that is what it is called "Free Forum".

Nothing to do with this site! Do not bring it up again!

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Out of respect for this forum and the mods and being that we are not allowed to promote other forums, I will say this, the word "free" is nowhere in the name of that forum.

See, proof you often don't have a clue what you are talking about. Besides, why does any of this matter to you since you are (by your own admission) no longer in the karaoke business?

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Incorrect. Going to PM you on this subject

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" Disc based and loving it..."

So what are you saying rumbolt a host that spends over 19 years running a successful karaoke service business, is not supposed to be concerned about issues effecting the karaoke industry? That a person with a wealth of experience should not be sharing that experience with others? So when and if you ever retire you are just going away and never being interested in the industry again? Since you brought this up I think it is right to respond to your post.

Free Forum: Karaoke USA
Free Forum: This forum is for karaoke host etc.etc. etc.
Your website not mine.

Maybe you should read your own sites description.

Your opinions are not welcome Lone Ranger because you do not agree with the cheerleader side of things. They want all of the posters who disagree with them to disappear so it will look like everyone agrees with the Sound Choice way of doing things. If they can't get you to stop posting, they'll just start deleting your posts to make you realize that you're just wasting your time. They'll get rid of all of the anti-Sound Choice crowd eventually and then this forum will go the way of the JOLT Forum. No controversy means no interest. Kumbaya my lord!

Hey, look here.. guess how to get banned over there..

lmao..

Still don't understand why the majority of folks here don't want to work together to nag their congress to send these fair use issues to the justices.

Still don't understand why SC doesn't encourage us to do that. If the copyright laws are forbidding them from directly selling downloads (or has that changed?) wouldn't it be in their best interest to lobby for change or clarification?

Finally, I don't understand why we haven't nagged the FBI to go after pirates. They go after pirate DVD makers here, but not pirating KJ's. It's booshiet.

I've sent letters to our governor & senators, just got the standard 'that is a great issue that we will be doing heavy research on to get the laws changed in our favor......etc." But I agree if more people did this, it may actually become an issue for them to really check out.

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Yup, have done my share of letter writing, phone calling, and even a town meeting or two. Toqer, the answer is that the politicians don't see it as a votors' issue- and they are right.

Law enforcement agencies are a bit short of manpower and money due to things like terrorism, drug cartels, and general nut cases killing, raping, kidnapping, and other nasty stuff. Kind of puts karaoke piracy on the back burner. It may not be fair, but it’s practical.

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" Disc based and loving it..."

According to Sound Choice, 9 out of 10 KJs are pirates of one sort or another. Why would any politician support an issue that only 10% of the people affected by it would be voting for them while 90% of the voters would be voting for their opponent? Very few politicians care about right and wrong these days. All they really seem to be interested in is getting elected and re-elected.

Would almost bet everything I own politicians haven't a clue about anything in the music industry - let alone the karaoke industry or what SC is doing for that matter.

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