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Rangerover
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:23 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:06 am Posts: 65 Location: West Virginia Been Liked: 6 times
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Did you know that is in fact illegal to walk down a busy sidewalk, listening to your favorite tune on your WiFi, and singing along with the recording you are listening to, you are violating copyright infringement laws. Crazy and ironic but that is the law as given as an example of the crazyness of how far reaching copyright laws can be. I have learned a lot, too much in fact, over the last 24 hrs reading all the copyright laws that, yes, even I had broken my whole life through. Needless to say I had another sleepless night, and worried.
Even back as far as the 60's with my cassette recorder back then, when I was playing with our band I was singing "Folsom Prison Blues", playing it in public or even giving a copy to a friend who asked me for a copy of our bands music.
My internet provider claimed I was infringing copyright laws by downloading 6 songs from a venue in Tennessee. They were songs I would never download and only one caught my eye.
I was cut off my internet service and that's how I come to find this out. Sadly still I was accused of doing this dirty deed on New Years Eve. I explained to the ISP tech, that it was impossible since my family and I were grieving the loss of our son, my nephew, who took his own life on Dec 21 and his body was found Dec 26 in woods of North Jersey. That the date I did this was Dec 31, New Years Eve, we just buried my nephew. Music, wow that was about 99 on a list of 100 important things and music was the very last thing on my mind. I did however visit Facebook wishing my friends and classmates from HS a Happy New Year in return for all their condolences they sent me and my family and Michael's friends. My family and I did not celebrate the Holidays as was planned with Good Will and Cheer, we did not celebrate, we mourned, there was no music, no singing.
I do believe the fault was mine through my wireless router, I searched my computer and to no avail did I find the songs that I allegedly downloaded. I may even have unknown to me downloaded an app with a torrent and therefore they got my IP address. Yesterday and into the daylight hours of today I cleaned all my downloaded song books, and recent downloaded programs like Abode Flash just downloaded recently, who also put something doing with music along with their program. I found a folder with about 1500 songs downloaded, that I would never download, deleting all and gaining 10 gigabytes on my hard drive. I also notice Napster, but warned not to take it out I see that it does file sharing with my recording and music edit program of Roxio. If there was a torrent I hope I got rid of it.
I didn't even know I am in violation because of my song books, cheat sheets, I use when I'm playing in a live band. My mind sometimes I get brain farts and forget the words so I take along my "music book" I made up of my favorite songs copied and printed off the internet with the chords that I sing in. It too is illegal, they call that snyc. because the original artist copyright goes beyond just the music, every bit of that song with his band is copyrighted and the lyrics included.
I admit that yes I have made recordings on CD's that I have given to my family and friends who request them, but I have never sold a single copy, ever. Doesn't work that way, I still violated the law, do they know this, the copyright hunters, I don't think so. Ever careful from now on, but I do think it goes too far.
The US Government and states now have an educational approach as told to me when it comes to the internet and file sharing even our Karaoke recordings such as on You Tube that if you are in violation it's 6 strikes and you are in, in, in a sense you are in trouble with the laws and courts and lawsuits. I now have one strike, a mark against me in their little black book of criminal offenders of copyright laws, though I may be guilty as I described above after being educated in the past 24 hours, but not guilty of the charges imposed by the legal teams. I'll just wait and see what happens if I receive a notice of intent via USPS or an email, so far nothing, but wow am I learning. I too approve of going after pirates of Karaoke, I have every disc for every song on my laptop and receipts for my Karaoke downloads. I'm still on the side of the law and will curtail my own abuses that admit too.
I guess I'll be singing the Karaoke version of "I'm a Lonesome Fugitive" by Merle Haggard from the heart from now on, another song I have lived or am now living.
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TopherM
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:31 am |
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Joined: Mon Dec 20, 2004 10:09 am Posts: 3341 Location: Tampa Bay, FL Been Liked: 445 times
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You would think the FCC would have better things to do than police ISPs for 6 illegal downloads. I could name several people I know off the top of my head with tens of thousands of illegal movie and music downloads, but they've never been bothered. Maybe I can get a reward for turning them in Anyway, I wonder why you were singled out. Doesn't seem to make much sense.
_________________ C Mc
KJ, FL
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Rangerover
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:01 am |
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Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:06 am Posts: 65 Location: West Virginia Been Liked: 6 times
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Last year I purchased a Patsy Cline CD collection from eBay, it looked authentic, but when I played it a few of the songs were cut short, one in fact stopped but continued on the next track. Then I realized it was pirated especially when I saw how the label was off center and lifting from one end. I should have turned the seller in, but I didn't. I will in the future.
I don't know how or why I was singled out. I only spend the max 2 hours on the internet and not every day, sometimes I go a week without surfing the net for anything. Last year I was on the net checking my checking acct and I noticed debits for a hotel room in California for 2 nights stay at $349 per night and other debits for other goods that were not mine. I called the bank and they already put a stop and cancelled my card, because they felt something was wrong after my acct balance hit minus $500 balance. They drained me of almost $2,000, but lucky for me I got it all back, the bank said they took the loss before they cancelled the card. I went to the bank and as she was reading off the debits, I kept saying no, no,no to the debits. Another lesson learned about internet purchase with a card, if they don't offer pay pal, I hit the back button. I don't use a credit card unless it's for an emergency.
I've become an advocate of anti piracy also since I started visiting this site, understanding full well how the pirates destroy a legitimate Karaoke Jockey's interests and name. The KJ's that I know local have never been bothered by any investigation, I know they too are on the up and up.
The problem seems once charged and they drag you into court, the "I didn't know that" don't hold up, it's written in the law. I wish I knew of a way to let them take my tower and search it themselves, even I know if I deleted something, it's still there. I've deleted files that I should not have and downloaded a program to restore lost or deleted files. It never really goes away even with all the defragging. The only way to completely lose or destroy a file once downloaded is to wipe the entire HDD and start fresh. I've done that before a couple times due to malware that got by me.
Thanks for your replies, I know that I will be more careful in the future. I already did away with the wireless router and installed wired, hopefully that's all I need to do along with cleaning out some programs and apps that I don't use.
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TopherM
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:36 am |
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Joined: Mon Dec 20, 2004 10:09 am Posts: 3341 Location: Tampa Bay, FL Been Liked: 445 times
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Quote: They drained me of almost $2,000, but lucky for me I got it all back, the bank said they took the loss before they cancelled the card. Just FYI, I work in the financial services industry, and the bank carries almost no liability in card fraud/loss cases either. They are required to investigate the matter, but it's Visa/MasterCard/Discover/AMEX that carries the liability, NOT the bank. As long as the bank can verify the fraud, it doesn't cost them a penny.
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KJ, FL
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Rangerover
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:49 am |
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Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:06 am Posts: 65 Location: West Virginia Been Liked: 6 times
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TopherM wrote: Quote: They drained me of almost $2,000, but lucky for me I got it all back, the bank said they took the loss before they cancelled the card. Just FYI, I work in the financial services industry, and the bank carries almost no liability in card fraud/loss cases either. They are required to investigate the matter, but it's Visa/MasterCard/Discover/AMEX that carries the liability, NOT the bank. As long as the bank can verify the fraud, it doesn't cost them a penny. I thought about that but she told me they took the hit, it was a Visa Card. And I wondered why they couldn't stop those since they still hadn't cleared the check clearing house.
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Lonman
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:26 pm |
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Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2001 3:57 pm Posts: 22978 Songs: 35 Images: 3 Location: Tacoma, WA Been Liked: 2126 times
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TopherM wrote: Quote: They drained me of almost $2,000, but lucky for me I got it all back, the bank said they took the loss before they cancelled the card. Just FYI, I work in the financial services industry, and the bank carries almost no liability in card fraud/loss cases either. They are required to investigate the matter, but it's Visa/MasterCard/Discover/AMEX that carries the liability, NOT the bank. As long as the bank can verify the fraud, it doesn't cost them a penny. I had someone that was in my home, steal a check out of my checkbook & write it out & cashed it with his information. I filed a police report, gave them the guys info & a copy of the check with his writing & info. THe bank first said they couldn't do anything because they couldn't tell if I had given it to him to fill out and basically the cops said the same thing. The bank FINALLY reversed it after 4 weeks of arguing. But nothing became of the thief - simply because he was inside my house and a (ex) friend of my son.
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johnny reverb
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:56 pm |
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Joined: Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:05 pm Posts: 3376 Been Liked: 172 times
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Could be worse......they can download child porn through your router, and you would be blamed for doing it........yikes
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MrBoo
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Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:31 am |
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Joined: Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:35 am Posts: 1945 Been Liked: 427 times
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It would be very easy to find out all the mac addresses that connected to the router and the local IPs assigned to them. It would be a touch harder to get your neighbors to let you have the macs off all their devices..
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Rangerover
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Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:57 am |
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Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:06 am Posts: 65 Location: West Virginia Been Liked: 6 times
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I have spent this past week researching what is going on and I am not alone. Torrents and bit torrents, everybody and anybody who has ever listened to music, or downloaded anything "free", whether it's music, video clips, porn, a comic you found funny, a picture, an album cover, a calendar, a poem, song lyrics, free karaoke, free music of your listening pleasure have become part of a torrent or bit torrent, anything of interest to you. If you ever notice on Google, they give you suggestions in your search because of "one word" they too are a torrent and you as a client are a bit torrent. NSA sound familiar, we are all warned not to ever search for certain organizations who are our enemies, one word such a "bomb", or "al Quida" can raise red flags and you become subject.
For instance I was searching for music, in particular, Don Gibson (who the heck is he some of you may ask) Don Gibson first wrote, recorded and published "Sweet Dreams", 1956. a hit by Patsy Cline in 1960 a big hit. I was searching the net for the original recording by Don Gibson. Hence, the songs "Dream On" and "Sweet Emotions" came up because of the bit's "sweet" and "dream". The other search I did was for Ray Price, "The Same Old Me", lo and behold "Same Old Song and Dance" showed up. Same as Leroy Van Dyke "Walk on By" in Karaoke", what came up was "Walk This Way", and why, the amount of search's and results from the more popular songs with the key words or "bits" even Mama Kin, when I was searching for a Merle Haggard karaoke of "Mama Tried".
Some bit torrents will pick up those key words and download the more popular searches on your computer, my computer with those 1500 songs I found in a folder that I never downloaded. Now I do understand it was from PowerKaroke when they had the link, and the only link on their site, to download Karaoke software, CDG, of course they were not free, but that link no longer works and when I visited the link to Facebook, there is nothing there now <karaokecc> is no more, all advertisement of crazy one poster stuff. Perhaps they got caught, they have been replaced by "Zoom" I believe.
Since those 1500 songs were downloaded on my computer, I now became a "server", if you will, for someone else searching for one of those downloaded songs for "free". My computer would upload the song onto someone in Bankok Thailand without me even knowing it, or bits of the song making it "streaming" developing the entire song from many other "client" computer's with like songs downloaded.
Ever notice a legitimate song on YouTube, for instance I'm learning how to sing Josh Turner's "Your Man", when I click it on of course I suffer through the advertisement, but that advertisement pays the publisher who pays the penny's on the dollar "royalty" to Josh Turner and according to his contract with his publishers'.
Ever see these job offer's of thousands of dollars per month working on the internet, that's what this is all about. You download a song, "streaming", you get a thousand hits, you show a company how many hit's you had on your particular piece, and bingo they pay you to advertise on your site. You can count on it a "free" download of a popular song, and who doesn't like the idea of free music on the internet or free karaoke. Piracy is what it is plain and simple and the pirates continue to make money big time.
Don't bother searching for bit torrents on your computer, there are thousands, like I said even one for that "free calendar" you downloaded last week. The most popular P2P file sharing application was of course Napster, and look where they wound up, but they were the "cream of the crop" during their hey day. But who in government, FBI, or other is going to go after the little guy who is only making a $1,000 per month in his or her free streaming video's, music, or copyrighted music novelty cards we send over the net for Birthday's and Anniversaries, Easter or Christmas, but they are watching and we all may very well be culpable if we ever even copied and pasted that comic of our beloved President or of Bud Abbott doing his "Who's On First" routine, we are all, after all infringing on copyright laws. But the music and movie industry takes the biggest hits for now, but sooner or later, Hallmark Cards will be after the abuser's also, just give it time.
And no I have heard nothing in email or the USPS. I did however send suddenlink, my ISP, the reason of impossibility and the news articles and funeral notices of my nephew and the reason I was not at all interested in downloading music on New Years Eve.
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Rangerover
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Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:14 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:06 am Posts: 65 Location: West Virginia Been Liked: 6 times
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Traditional Client-Server Downloading
To understand how BitTorrent works and why it is different from other file-serving methods, let's examine what happens when you download a file from a Web site. It works something like this: You open a Web page and click a link to download a file to your computer. The Web browser software on your computer (the client) tells the server (a central computer that holds the file) to transfer a copy of the file to your computer. The transfer is handled by a protocol (a set of rules), such as FTP (file transfer protocol) or HTTP (hypertext transfer protocol). The transfer speed is affected by a number of variables, including the type of protocol, the amount of traffic on the server and the number of other computers that are downloading the file. If the file is both large and popular, the demands on the server are great, and the download will be slow.
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Rangerover
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Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:16 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:06 am Posts: 65 Location: West Virginia Been Liked: 6 times
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Peer-To-Peer File Sharing
Another file-transfer method that you may have heard about is called peer-to-peer file sharing. In this process, you use a software program (rather than your Web browser) to locate computers that have the file you want. Because these are ordinary computers like yours, as opposed to servers, they are called peers. The process works like this: You run peer-to-peer file-sharing software and send out a request for the file you want to download. To locate the file, the software queries other computers that are connected to the Internet and running the file-sharing software. When the software finds a computer that has the file you want on its hard drive, the download begins. Others using the file-sharing software can obtain files they want from your computer's hard drive. The file-transfer load is distributed between the computers exchanging files, but file searches and transfers from your computer to others can cause bottlenecks. Some people download files and immediately disconnect without allowing others to obtain files from their system, which is called leeching. This limits the number of computers the software can search for the requested file.
Oh and your firewall won't and can't stop it...........
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Rangerover
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Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:19 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:06 am Posts: 65 Location: West Virginia Been Liked: 6 times
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What BitTorrent Does
Unlike some other peer-to-peer downloading methods, BitTorrent is a protocol that offloads some of the file tracking work to a central server (called a tracker). Another difference is that it uses a principal called tit-for-tat. This means that in order to receive files, you have to give them. This solves the problem of leeching -- one of developer Bram Cohen's primary goals. With BitTorrent, the more files you share with others, the faster your downloads are. Finally, to make better use of available Internet bandwidth (the pipeline for data transmission), BitTorrent downloads different pieces of the file you want simultaneously from multiple computers. Here's how it works: You open a Web page and click on a link for the file you want. BitTorrent client software communicates with a tracker to find other computers running BitTorrent that have the complete file (seed computers) and those with a portion of the file (peers that are usually in the process of downloading the file). The tracker identifies the swarm, which is the connected computers that have all of or a portion of the file and are in the process of sending or receiving it. The tracker helps the client software trade pieces of the file you want with other computers in the swarm. Your computer receives multiple pieces of the file simultaneously. If you continue to run the BitTorrent client software after your download is complete, others can receive .torrent files from your computer; your future download rates improve because you are ranked higher in the "tit-for-tat" system. Downloading pieces of the file at the same time helps solve a common problem with other peer-to-peer download methods: Peers upload at a much slower rate than they download. By downloading multiple pieces at the same time, the overall speed is greatly improved. The more computers involved in the swarm, the faster the file transfer occurs because there are more sources of each piece of the file. For this reason, BitTorrent is especially useful for large, popular files.
And most folks don't even know torrents are loaded in our computers now by all these apps that we load and other web sites we visit, somehow it seems legal.
Last edited by Rangerover on Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Rangerover
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Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:33 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:06 am Posts: 65 Location: West Virginia Been Liked: 6 times
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One more important thing when we burn a disc with our favorite Karaoke tunes after downloading to our hard drive like on Siglo's Power CG Burner, to preserve a copy in case your computer crashes, backup copy we call them, they ask you if you want to search the web for the Publisher, I believe it is, well you just opened yourself a port for file sharing to other computers looking to download that same file with a form of bit torrent often times hidden in a completely unlikely program if you agree to search the web for a particular publisher, best not to do that.
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