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The Lone Ranger
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 Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:20 am |
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chrisavis wrote: The Lone Ranger wrote: chrisavis wrote: The Lone Ranger wrote: P.S. I hope this was narrow enough for you. It isn't. You still want to justify what KJ's do based upon what the manufacturers do. When you can justify what pirate/thief KJ's do without invoking the manufacturers maybe I will listen. Until then, you have nothing relevant or informative to say in my opinion. -Chris  Excuse me Chris I thought the charge against the pirates was they were stealing from SC. EMI says that SC have been basically stealing from them. Is it a crime if a thief steals from another thief since there is no honor among thieves? If a crook steals a diamond can he charge another crook for taking it, if it is stolen property in the first place? You want to set up two different systems of justice one for the pirate thief and one for the corporate thief. In this case the stealing happens to be white collar in nature. If you can't see the problem with your position then really I don't know what to say. There is no difference, you want to hold the corporate thieves to a different standard since they wear a suit and the host wears an Hawaiian shirt. One thing that has been forgotten is if you are a thief you cannot yourself call the police if you are robbed. Again, you want to relate what the manufacturers SUPPOSEDLY have done, to what we KNOW the pirate KJ's actually do. I don't have any interest in discussing what the manufacturers do because 1) I am not an attorney, 2) manufacturers have licensing issues to deal with that KJ's in general do not, and 3) I am a KJ so I am dealing with other KJ's, not the manufacturers, when it comes to piracy and theft. Also, at the manufacturer level, there is nothing for me to report or follow-up on. The copyright holders have regularly kept them in check over the years. They are working at a level that I have little impact on. KJ's are another matter altogether though. I can have an impact there. So again, when you are willing to discuss only the KJ portion of piracy and theft without attaching it to the manufacturers, I will be happy to participate. -Chris If you read my posts and Jim Harrington's you would see the part about using the three year statue of limitations, as a get out of jail free card for SC. There is no supposed infraction it happened, but by a loophole SC might be able to wiggle out of their legal difficulties. You cannot separate the two Chris they are joined at the hip like Siamese twins. You don't want to face the fact that a double standard exists when weighing an individual host and a manu. If you persist in calling one side a thief because they have been accused, you better be willing to decry all of these civil matters theft, and all lawbreakers thieves.
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chrisavis
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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:07 am |
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The Lone Ranger wrote: Bazza wrote: The whole conspiracy theory that manufactures WANT pirates so they have somebody to sue is about as logical as saying the TSA WANTS terrorists or your local Fire Department WANTS house fires so they have steady income. Come on Bazza we have more people in prison than any other country in the world, prisons are big business and they generate millions to the companies that contract out their services. Most of these prisoners are small time drug users and sellers. Treatment would be a cheaper alternative but that would take away from profits earned by corporations that run the prisons. TSA or the local Fire Department don't want to be called on, yet they still want the tax dollars allocated for Security and Fire Protection. Once something is created it has a life of it's own, and requires spending to maintain itself. P.S. I forgot War is big business to, that is why when we start a War it is hard to stop since that would cut into the profits of the companies that supply everything for War. That is why it was so hard to get out of Iraq and why we will have to stay in Afghanistan for another 10 years. Amazing. You simply cannot make a point without taking something completely unrelated, and using it to justify your comments. No one want more criminals (except organized crime leaders) No one wants more terrorists (except the terrorist recruiters) No one wants more fires (except the arsonists) -Chris
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chrisavis
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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:15 am |
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The Lone Ranger wrote: 8) All that is true Chris, but since they are there and looked on as a threat, someone is going to try and make a buck off the sad situation, after all it is the American way. What's the matter you against capitalism. The two biggest industries right now are security and gun sales. To such an extent the NRA can tie up our legislative system even though 90% of the country wants stricter gun laws. Wondering how the NRA and gun laws have anything to do with karaoke. I believe I have made my point, yet again. -Chris
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jdmeister
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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:54 pm |
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Gun control is not about guns..
It's about control..
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JoeChartreuse
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Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:55 pm |
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I'm still confused. If I read correctly, EMI claims that the MCPS licensing was issued to FCS MediaPlas, NOT Sound Choice. Now, they also claim that Kurt had partial or total control of that company- which folded soon after the end of the GEM production- but the licensing was ( per EMI's claim) not to Sound Choice, who was selling ( oops, I mean licensing) it here.. If that is true, then what Statute of Limitations are we discussing? By that I mean that if the claim is true then SC NEVER had licensing. Of course, if the claim is proven untrue then it's a different issue.
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Paradigm Karaoke
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Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 3:19 am |
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the claim is that the products were manufactured outside of the acquired MCPS licensing, not that licensing did not exist. i have a drivers license, but if i try to drive an 18 wheeler, i have gone beyond the license i have been given. i still have a license bt it does not give me rights to drive that vehicle.
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