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Brian A
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:11 am |
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Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:43 pm Posts: 3912 Images: 13 Been Liked: 1672 times
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Just got an email from DT cloud re: songdive.com:
SongDive is The Online Songbook - Karaoke Cloud and SongDive have teamed up to bring you a new service! Eliminate heavy songbooks by hosting your list online with SongDive. Provide us with your list, and we will convert it to a fully-indexed, searchable digital format hosted conveniently on SongDive.
As a Karaoke Cloud Pro member, you’ll have the full Pro song list on your SongDive site by default, so you’re ready to go as soon as your account is set up. You’ll get your own page to direct your singers to, where they can browse your selection of songs and even submit requests directly to your phone via text message. SongDive offers a 10 day risk free trial, with no extra cost per event or limits on songbook size! Click Here (After Free trial, as low as only $10.83/MO).
I think I’ll wait for reviews first. I’ll be interested if they list my book in the same format: song title, artists & manu+song #’s. No thanks if it’s similar to karma’s songbookslive.com, listing songs & artists only.
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Paradigm Karaoke
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:14 am |
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Joined: Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:24 pm Posts: 5107 Location: Phoenix Az Been Liked: 1279 times
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I looked at our, it's ok, but not even showing Manu or giving a key change option. I will stick with songbookdb.com. nice that they are branching out though
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Lonman
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:21 am |
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Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2001 3:57 pm Posts: 22978 Songs: 35 Images: 3 Location: Tacoma, WA Been Liked: 2126 times
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I don't want phone send options. Won't be using it.
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mrmarog
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:36 am |
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Joined: Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:13 pm Posts: 3801 Images: 1 Location: Florida Been Liked: 1612 times
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Lonman wrote: I don't want phone send options. Won't be using it. Let's hear it again for Song Slips & Books Rah Rah Rah! I won't use a service like that either. People are already too attached to their phones. Why give them another reason to be distracted. Oh, I know why because it simplifies the host's job.
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chrisavis
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:25 am |
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Joined: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:38 pm Posts: 6086 Images: 1 Location: Redmond, WA Been Liked: 1665 times
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I don't list Versions in my printed books anyway so I don't miss it in SongBooksLive.com.
$11/year = SongBooksLive.com
$129/year = SongDive.com
-Chris
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Brian A
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:59 am |
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chrisavis wrote: I don't list Versions in my printed books anyway so I don't miss it in SongBooksLive.com.
$11/year = SongBooksLive.com
$129/year = SongDive.com
-Chris Agree! “As low as $10.83 a mo”. Could be more than $129.96 yr if you have a big size library. Most (if not all) kj’s will be turned-off by the hefty price tag. Methinks this bandwagon’s gonna have a rough time rolling.
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RLC
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:46 am |
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Joined: Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:30 pm Posts: 1806 Images: 0 Been Liked: 631 times
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Brian A wrote: No thanks if it’s similar to karma’s songbookslive.com, listing songs & artists only. Brian, I got around this by taking a backup of my songs and batch renaming them to include the manu & discID as part of the song title only in ( ) Like this ---> Price, Ray - Crazy Arms (DK079-16) And then use Song List Generator to upload to Songbookslive
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chrisavis
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:54 am |
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Joined: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:38 pm Posts: 6086 Images: 1 Location: Redmond, WA Been Liked: 1665 times
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RLC wrote: Brian A wrote: No thanks if it’s similar to karma’s songbookslive.com, listing songs & artists only. Brian, I got around this by taking a backup of my songs and batch renaming them to include the manu & discID as part of the song title only in ( ) Like this ---> Price, Ray - Crazy Arms (DK079-16) And then use Song List Generator to upload to Songbookslive That is a great workaround! Thanks for the tip! -Chris
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Brian A
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:00 pm |
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Re:RLC's tip. Thanks! I'll try it.
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Smoothedge69
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:33 pm |
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Joined: Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:55 am Posts: 3885 Images: 0 Been Liked: 397 times
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Ready for this??? I use Excel to create and update my books, and I print them, and bind them all by myself.
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Lonman
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:44 pm |
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Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2001 3:57 pm Posts: 22978 Songs: 35 Images: 3 Location: Tacoma, WA Been Liked: 2126 times
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I also print books - outdated concept, but many people still appreciate it (I know go figure, why would anyone want to use a book when electronic methods are available). I do have online, phone app books available for those who do happen to use them & will SOMEDAY set up a kiosk, but I am still expecting the books to be the most popular as the phone app books currently don't get a whole lot of use. I do have several that bring in a tablet to view the books online during a show simply because all the books are out & they can view them anytime.
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TroyVnd27
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:42 pm |
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Joined: Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:10 pm Posts: 933 Location: Twin Lake, MI Been Liked: 59 times
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Lonman wrote: I also print books - outdated concept, but many people still appreciate it (I know go figure, why would anyone want to use a book when electronic methods are available). I do have online, phone app books available for those who do happen to use them & will SOMEDAY set up a kiosk, but I am still expecting the books to be the most popular as the phone app books currently don't get a whole lot of use. I do have several that bring in a tablet to view the books online during a show simply because all the books are out & they can view them anytime. At my regular shows, I let my books go. I quit updating them and threw them away when they became unserviceable. I've been working on electronic methods, but it's still not done. Without giving much thought to it what I had done, I noticed a drop off in number of singers (but across the board, business had improved). When I finally put 2 & 2 together, I started working on my books again. Instantly, the number of singers improved. And, according to Chip, he sort of experiences the same thing with his digital songbook. Bottom line, traditional books are the best way to get customers involved, specifically those customers that aren't there specifically to sing.
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Alan B
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:50 pm |
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Joined: Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:24 pm Posts: 4466 Been Liked: 1052 times
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I also print books and use the kiosk. I don't need to pay extra for the use of an on line book.
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Lonman
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:12 pm |
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Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2001 3:57 pm Posts: 22978 Songs: 35 Images: 3 Location: Tacoma, WA Been Liked: 2126 times
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TroyVnd27 wrote: Bottom line, traditional books are the best way to get customers involved, specifically those customers that aren't there specifically to sing. I agree. Especially with those that aren't necessarily there to sing, they can peruse & find people to sing songs for them.
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JoeChartreuse
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:41 pm |
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Joined: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:12 pm Posts: 5046 Been Liked: 334 times
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Luddite that I am, I print books, of course, and my show benefits from the browsing with no pressure from the next person on the kiosk line. However, anyone who hits my tablet with a request for the book in a PDF file will have it sent.
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Smoothedge69
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:30 pm |
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What is funny about it, is that most people still come up to me and just ask for songs. I have my books on both my computers. And if I don't have what they are looking for, off to Tricerasoft I go. Then I just add it to the book later.
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Paradigm Karaoke
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:14 am |
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Joined: Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:24 pm Posts: 5107 Location: Phoenix Az Been Liked: 1279 times
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i will admit i was wary, but even at the VFW, DAV, Moose, and Eagles (average age 60+) they love the kiosk and do not miss books one bit. for instance, tonight i was at the FVW, started there earlier this year with 8 singers, now tonight had 23 singers....in a bar with a 54 cap!!! i never would have thought, but they have embraced it and at my mixed age shows are teaching the young whipper snappers how to do it. go figure...
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RLC
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 5:46 am |
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TroyVnd27 wrote: Bottom line, traditional books are the best way to get customers involved, specifically those customers that aren't there specifically to sing. Lonman wrote: I agree. Especially with those that aren't necessarily there to sing, they can peruse & find people to sing songs for them. I also agree that traditional books are 100% necessary and would never even think of eliminating them, but with songbookslive, for less than what it costs to print 1 book, I can have a web based song book that can be updated with a few clicks and available to however many who wish to use it. It is a great supplement in that aspect.
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chrisavis
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:01 am |
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Joined: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:38 pm Posts: 6086 Images: 1 Location: Redmond, WA Been Liked: 1665 times
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Paradigm Karaoke wrote: i will admit i was wary, but even at the VFW, DAV, Moose, and Eagles (average age 60+) they love the kiosk and do not miss books one bit. for instance, tonight i was at the FVW, started there earlier this year with 8 singers, now tonight had 23 singers....in a bar with a 54 cap!!! i never would have thought, but they have embraced it and at my mixed age shows are teaching the young whipper snappers how to do it. go figure... I was at Paradigm's show a few weeks ago. He had two laptops setup for the song search/submission. It was a good format and is exactly how I would implement a kiosk - at least two terminals to help alleviate line issues. The downside for me is securing them as many of my venues don't have a convenient place to drop a laptop close to the DJ area. I actually do want to implement a kiosk system, but not to eliminate books (for now). I just want to do something value added to cover people that would use it. I think it is a wise investment even if it is IN ADDITION TO using printed books and an online book. -Chris
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GeminiMALE40
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:29 am |
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Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:07 pm Posts: 1504 Images: 0 Location: Salina,KS Been Liked: 64 times
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Im not a fan of songbooks online to easy for other dj/kj to serch your song list to compete with you..so I just prefer to have songbooks only. If anyone is interest in see what I have they can come to my show...
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