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admin there is no room in here for some one to be quoting from any bible
this is not a church please remove
also did he get permission from god to use his words
it looks like god might have a law suit against Chris for stealing his words

I believe my quoting of the verses is apropos given ThiefFan4Life's continued reference to religion.

But to be fair.....Admins.....I request that every instance of OMG be removed as well.

Mike - The day the suit you suggest gets filed will be an interesting day indeed.

-Chris

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Wow Chris- what's bugging you lately?

OK, first, YOU have no evidence that he stole any music- why state that he did? "In the end, I am not a thief. You are."

Second, SC signed a stipulation ( legal document) that they often produced music without license or permission prior to 2010 ( this would include their entire time as new track producers).

While you- or anyone else was buying their product- or for that matter, any other mfrs.- during that time did truthfully EVER worry about mfr. licensing? C'mon- you and the rest of us bought product under the assumption that the companies were doing the right thing without even thinking about it. SC- and yes, several other companies- LIED TO US. Or, at the very least, misled us, allowing us to believe that all tracks were produced with publisher permission. Even if we were to believe that each and every track claim has since been settled with the publishers, that only relieves the company of further liability- it does NOT imply that permission was ever given.

Example: If you use SC8125 (among a LOT of unlicensed discs) you are using an Eagles disc that- while SC is safe from further liabilty- the publisher has NEVER given permission for use. SC8438 is another, and I can produce a long list if neccesary.

You are using music that is no better in many cases than his, or any other non-SC user.. As far as I know, only SyberSound (Party Tyme) and Pocket Songs have licensed all of their tracks prior to production in the U.S. ( and not even sure of this- I simply haven't seen any suits filed against them, but that doesn't mean it hasn't happened).

Again, Chris, this is beneath you. I have a feeling you have other stuff going on. None of my business, of course, but wishing you the best in whatever it is.

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Easy there Chris... If it isn't already, those comments are bordering on Libel and/or Slander. I don't recall seeing BF4L admit to purchasing a drive that contained stolen material. He has admitted to creating his own Karaoke tracks from music he downloaded from I-Tunes and Karaoke-Version and other such sites that offer songs with vocal tracks removed, and he has admitted to altering the "Trade Dress" of song tracks from SC to suit his needs.

Then all of us are guilty of this. I don't hear of many people, cheerleaders or otherwise, removing content from their system because they question whether the manufacturers licensed it properly or not. Some have said they are avoiding the no-fly list for new content but I don't see them pulling everything by those artists that was produced prior to us having access to that no-fly list.




-Chris

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-Chris

"I dont have to prove anything to you, or anyone else. If the Karaoke Kandy Store isn't guilty for selling pre loaded hard drives, how can I be guilty for owning one of them?"

"But I'm not a pirate. I'm a victim. A pirate may have sold me something that I thought was legal to buy and since I paid for it; I'm not going to just throw it away to make YOU happy. As far as I'm concerned I paid for every song on it and I'm going to enjoy all of them to the best of my singing ability. I haven't cost Sound Choice a penny because I would have never bought them at their full retail Price. Someone offered me what I thought was a bargain and I scooped it up."

he did.

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Boo HooHoo! It's not fair that some people paid less that I did for their karaoke music.

Suckers!

Sticks and stones will break my bones but LIBEL and SLANDER will never hurt me.

Sound Choice admits to producing karaoke tracks for decades without the proper licensing but I'm the problem that is killing the karaoke business???? You can't make this stuff up.

When Christopher's friend Kurt breaks the karaoke rules, all is well with the world. Kurt is just out there trying to help out the karaoke singers of the world when he continually breaks the rules and puts out unlicensed merchandise. When a seller like the Karaoke Kandy store tries to help out the average karaoke singer some money by seeling karaoke tracks at a discounted rate; Kurt's buddies get their panties in a bunch because they got duped into paying top dollar for what are turning out to be illegally produced discs.

Apparently to Christopher; it's just fine and dandy if his "friends" cut some corners to make a little extra money but it's a terrible thing when someone else does the same thing to save some money. The Schleps made millions of dollars by breaking the karaoke licensing rules and they are treated like heroes while people who tried to save a few thousand dollars are treated like the worst people on the planet. Typical hypocrites...."DO AS I SAY AND NOT AS I DO"

FUNNY THING ABOUT THE PHRASE: "I may have". It also implies that "I may have not". Maybe I did and maybe I didn't. Only the Shadow knows for sure.

Not even slightly, Cue. Particularly, given internet anonymity, the real entity behind the screen name for BruceFan4Life would have to prove damages affecting his real life, and, by and large, I'm assuming posters here don't know his name, or have any way of doing any harm in that regard. At worst, what Chris is doing would be considered cyber-bullying, which as of right now remains a legal gray area.

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You used the word fake in your above post. If the material is real then SC would have nothing to kick about would they? That is the purpose of all of this to be using the real McCoy isn't it.

Ironic how the Cheerleaders complain about having to deal with a playing field that is not level when it comes to their competition but they don't complain about being able to insult me and when I respond; I get hit with a warning for trying to make it a level playing field.

Some folks are allowed to break the rules (Sound Choice & Christopher) without any criticism, but when someone else bends the rules(Karaoke Kandy Store & maybe me) they are villified as thieves and pirates.

If my local bar owner works out a deal with someone to get a truckload of stolen beer and he advertizes a three for one beer special with an order of chicken wings during all NFL games; how does that make me a thief if I go to that bar to watch football games? If someone offer to sell me their laptop for one hundred dollars, how do I become a thief for not knowing that the laptop didn't really belong to him?

Why are my posts deleted while Christopher's posts are left on the board? Is the term "Athletic Supporter" so much worse than being called a thief? I don't even think I called anyone, in particular, an "Athletic Supporter" I just said that I'd rather be a pirate supporter THAN AN "ATHLETIC SUPPORTER". I thought it was a clever turn of phrase actually. I get the feeling that if it was said about me, everyone would be laughing about it. Oh well. Like I said to Christopher the other day: LIFE AIN'T FAIR.

Weird thing just happened. The post that I was warned about turned up on my screen and as it turns out; I did mention Christopher's name in regard to the supporter crack. I guess I didn't put enough smiley emoticons in there to make it clear that it was supposed to be funny. I only used 5 of them.

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This is a false statement. SC has admitted to no such thing and has, in fact, entered into licensing agreements for substantially all of the products it has released and sold.

if your statement is true
then tells us why they made a eagles disc

when the eagles had said from the begging no karaoke for their music

I saw the letter that sound choice sent to there dealers asking them to pull the disc off the shelf that they did not have permission to make the eagles disc

It's an advertisement trying to get people, who have been arrested for possession of stolen property, to hire their law firm. I have never been arrested for any criminal activity before and I would have had no knowledge if the laptop was stolen or not. Knowledge that the item is stolen is a requirement to be found guilty. Many people will sell a used laptop that is faulty in some way in order to get a fast buck on an item that isn't working properly. Buying something cheap is no guarantee that the item has been stolen. If someone was unlucky enough to buy a stolen computer and , let's just say it had some sort of tracking device in it. The worst that would probably happen to a law abiding citizen would be that they would lose the item to it's original owner. A one hundred dollar used laptop would be considered a disorderly person offense, according to the link that you provided. Now I'm scared.

If the Karaoke Kandy Store was found "Not Guilty" for selling the drives; how can the people who bought them be found guilty for owning them? For the record; I have never purchased anything from The Karaoke Kandy Store so my name will not turn up on their customer list.

I'm just going on what has been posted on this website about the KKS case in Ohio. Something about Dirty Hands was the topic, I believe. I believe it's been "said" here multiple times.

The Eagles disc has been answered too numerous to count over the years starting from the old JOLT forums and SC own board.

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he made a statement I just put out one of many disc
that had to be pulled
he said they paid for every thing
if that was so they why did they ever have to
pull any disc

think he should clear up what he said
all fees were paid before or after the release of the disc any disc they pulled
and if fees where paid why pull the disc

No discs were pulled. I'm not sure where you're getting this.

SC had licensing for the disc. The law changed. The publisher demanded additional compensation and that no more discs be pressed, and they used the new law to justify it. The matter was settled without a lawsuit. All of the discs that were sold are legit. This has been explained numerous times.

what are u talking about
back in the day when the eagles disc was released it was pulled shortly after it released
I read the letter my self that came from sound choice to the dealer at least to our dealer

would you like me to get the copy I made of the letter for you to read I still have it after all these years !!!!!

that would actually be kinda cool Mike.

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