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Like Gretchen does?

She tells you what she can, just like Jim Harrington tells you what he can. Even Gretchen admits that she can't tell us everything, it would seem that the information is on a needs to know basis. The information that is given out is not the total truth and maybe we will never know somethings about the manus. Like Chris has said many times they don't have to tell us anything if they don't want to. That cuts both ways.

The only difference is, you don't have anything to tell them... except for a lot of distorted and misinformed opinionated BS. Go back to talking about Communism!

If you could remove all of the distorted, misinformed, opinionated BS on this forum cue, there would be pratically nothing as far as content.

P.S. That is not true cue I have plenty to tell them if I wanted to, I know over a hundred hosts in my area, some that could be pirates, most are running their operations without the sacred manu permission. Would I turn my friends in of course not. I'm not a paid informer, nor am I trying to curry favor with some company. It is not my job to be a karaoke regulator, according to the manus I'm not needed since they have their own army of investigators.

Then I guess you'd no longer have a reason to be here.

Calm down Cue! Everyone has a right to voice their opinion whether you agree with it or not.

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I don't see why your so upset with me. If I don't know what I'm talking about you could disregard everything and go on. Is it that even though like manus I'm throwing stuff at the wall some of it is starting to stick? Making some hosts think that maybe they have backed the wrong horse? That maybe as an industry we should have worked out a comprehensive plan to solve problems, instead of relying on the manus to solve them for us? When you leave one side to come up with the answer to a problem, what happens when you don't like the answer?

"So are you saying that all Commercial DJ's that have copied their discs to a HD are illegal?"

Without permission, yes. The US Copyright Law is not all that different than the Canadian one. They both give permission for private use and in other certain circumstances, none of which is for commercial use.

In Canada, if they do not belong to AVLA, or have permission from the Copyright holder themselves, they are illegal.

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Ok tim they are illegal, what next do the manus sue in civil court there, or do you just send out the Mounties, they always get their host, right?

You asked a question, I answered it. What a copyright holder or a trademark owner does with their rights is their business, not mine.

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So tim nothing is basically done, since the manus are currently only using the legal process in the good old USA. I wonder if this means the illegals are going to go to Canada?

In the past, I have used the link on both CB's and SC's website to report known pirates operating in my area. Nothing was done about it even though I've tried several times at reporting them. That was two years ago. They still continue to operate as pirates, today.

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Maybe the manus were paid to look the other way, or maybe they felt there wasn't anything worth going after, it wouldn't be cost effective. Isn't that why they have shifted their enforcement emphasis to venues that hire the host and large multi-rig operations, they are looking for the deep pockets?

i have done the same face to face and got the same results

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Please allow me a repetition: If one wants to know about karaoke LEGALITIES, one calls an IP attorney, one absolutely does NOT CALL Gretchen, Jim, or any other profit oriented party that does not have YOUR best interests at heart.
Does that not make sense to anyone?

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I agree with you Joe contacting any of the manus reps is like putting a sign on your back saying kick me. Many of these proactive hosts I think have done themselves great harm and possibly the industry as well. By constantly asking questions they have maybe stirred up the publishers, something that could negatively effect every hosts karaoke business. The former certified hosts were left out of the loop by PR, their certifications expired and only the cloud subscribers are now verified, and on the vetted list. So really what good does it do to try and work with the manus as far as audits are concerned? I have made a point not to contact these manus, and I have had none of them try and contact me, with less than two months to go, I will stay the course.

Or people could go your route and prattle on with endless speculation. THAT is for more harmful than asking questions directly of the manufacturers on their policies.



Because I asked questions, I understand why the process ended up the way it is. If DigiTrax defines "vetted" the way I define "subscriber", so be it. I don't have to like it or agree with it, but that is the way it is. We are dealing with a completely different company with completely different policies.



I don't know.....maybe you should contact an IP specialist....



What is happening in two months? You aren't going to retire from karaoke are you?

-Chris

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How did you guess Chris? One other thing I find quite amusing supposedly Steve Brophy and APS are hiding from SC and keeping a low profile, right? According to SC they haven't been able to get in contact with him, maybe they should try his website.

Search under APS- Steven C. Brophy Associated Protective Service, you can get his bio and contact the company direct. They are even offering training courses in investigation.

Just because a website is up doesn't mean the company is still in business. Did you call them?

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Please note: Even Chris did not disagree with my original post.

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