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Again, his suspension had nothing to do with his legal knowledge, or the validity of his legal statements. It was based on other things.


And yet, that suspension prohibits him from USING that legal knowledge as a profession or making any legal statements as an attorney for 18 MONTHS.

If it walks like a duck.....

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However, Bazza being Bazza, will always be there to repudiate anything that I post- my personal forum troll.....The sky's not blue, the grass isn't green, and it won't get dark at night- if I post it....


Says the guy who claims with great pomposity to "never stoop to personal attacks". :lol: Don't flatter yourself Jose. I take issue with those who make things up or post foolish or false statements. It just so happens you have a much higher percentage of those than most.


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And yet, that suspension prohibits him from USING that legal knowledge as a profession or making any legal statements as an attorney for 18 MONTHS.

but it was not from anything having to do with his job as an attorney.

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It doesn't matter. As long as he is suspended, he can't even tell you anything relating to the law. He cannot give any opinions, give any advice, even for free. A suspension is very serious and career wrecking for an attorney. Even when his suspension is up he still has certain restrictions and that goes for just about any attorney anywhere. Violating any part of a suspension may result in a longer suspension or outright disbarment.

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And yet, that suspension prohibits him from USING that legal knowledge as a profession or making any legal statements as an attorney for 18 MONTHS.

but it was not from anything having to do with his job as an attorney.


I have made all of the comments I am going to make on that situation, but what you are saying is incorrect. It absolutely does have to do with his job as an attorney.


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8) So James is there any truth to this post about you practicing law without a license in Nevada?

http://soundchoicelasvegaslawsuit.com/i ... in-nevada/


8) So out of that mass filing in Nevada only Ellis Island ended up settling out of court with SC? The rest all walked that is a worse record than even California where you did manage to convince more defendants to settle, even if SC never got the money. Then hosts wonder why I have little faith in this legal process. Even if you do file the mass suit the mass number of defendants simply walk away and pay nothing. What a waste of time, money and all the drama associated with it. James does any of this have to do with your job as an attorney?


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http://soundchoicelasvegaslawsuit.com/i ... in-nevada/

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Then hosts wonder why I have little faith in this legal process....


Yet you still swear by a personal blog that is full of 1 man's opinion. Me personally, I have very little belief in blogs.


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8) It is a matter of court record cue that the 41 defendants in the California case walked away and never paid any money to SC. By SC's own admission the money paid by the defendants who settled was never turned over to SC and that is why they sued APS, to recover the money. SC itself was counter sued by one of the defendants and ordered to pay an award for almost $20,000.00. The blog might be biased but then again all the information you get from the manus and their paid reps is also biased.


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The blog might be biased but then again all the information you get from the manus and their paid reps is also biased.

Emphasis on the words BLOG and BIASED. While the blogger might refer you to some court document sites (where you can see who was sued and what the results may have been), that is the only legal references you will get. Everything else is opinions and points of view from the blogger/ What you draw from that is your own point of view, and not a legal opinion either.


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as far as "the blog" goes...we shall wait and see how much the Judge thinks of that hosts "canned forms" again :order: they haven't gone over very well so far for those who have tried to use them :rofl4:

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8) Why shouldn't the blogs have any more weight than some of the stuff Insane spews out? Isn't his little posts also tainted by his opinions? The proof will be in the decision that is handed down by the judge if he finds for the defendant Tara then that is the end of the Las Vegas suits with only Ellis Island coming to some kind of out of court settlement with SC. Very little return on something that has been dragging on for over a year, not to mention the cost involved. I don't see James coming on here answering anything, or is it that because the issue is still pending before the court?


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8) Why shouldn't the blogs have any more weight than some of the stuff Insane spews out? Isn't his little posts also tainted by his opinions? The proof will be in the decision that is handed down by the judge if he finds for the defendant Tara then that is the end of the Las Vegas suits with only Ellis Island coming to some kind of out of court settlement with SC. Very little return on something that has been dragging on for over a year, not to mention the cost involved. I don't see James coming on here answering anything, or is it that because the issue is still pending before the court?


You know I don't comment on pending cases.

We reached settlements with most of the Vegas defendants, at least the ones who appeared in the case. But it does make me chuckle a bit to see someone who has ZERO knowledge of actual facts concerning a subject make such a conclusive statement about what happened.


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Why shouldn't the blogs have any more weight than some of the stuff Insane spews out?


I predict that another feast of crow is in someones future.

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8) Why shouldn't the blogs have any more weight than some of the stuff Insane spews out? Isn't his little posts also tainted by his opinions? The proof will be in the decision that is handed down by the judge if he finds for the defendant Tara then that is the end of the Las Vegas suits with only Ellis Island coming to some kind of out of court settlement with SC. Very little return on something that has been dragging on for over a year, not to mention the cost involved. I don't see James coming on here answering anything, or is it that because the issue is still pending before the court?


You know I don't comment on pending cases.

We reached settlements with most of the Vegas defendants, at least the ones who appeared in the case. But it does make me chuckle a bit to see someone who has ZERO knowledge of actual facts concerning a subject make such a conclusive statement about what happened.


8) Legal baloney is still baloney no matter how you slice it Jim. Of course if you get caught with your pants down I don't expect you to admit it, after all you have to put on the best face, and protect your clients interests. The best way to do that is to paint others as uninformed oafs. One thing is for sure you can put a spin on something better than any major league pitcher. We will just have to wait and see if Tara wins her motion and has the SC suit dismissed, hopefully where you won't be able to come after her anymore. I knew you would have to respond once the gauntlet was thrown down, see other people are predictable also.


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Insane KJ wrote:
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Why shouldn't the blogs have any more weight than some of the stuff Insane spews out?


I predict that another feast of crow is in someones future.

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8) What are you Insane Jim's Tonto? Pretty soon it will be the manus eating crow once they implode.


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8) Legal baloney is still baloney no matter how you slice it Jim. Of course if you get caught with your pants down I don't expect you to admit it, after all you have to put on the best face, and protect your clients interests. The best way to do that is to paint others as uninformed oafs.


I'm not painting you as anything. I know who the parties to the settlements are. You aren't one of them. Ergo, you have no actual knowledge of what occurred. Yet, here you are making incorrect assertions of fact on those subjects. Whether that makes you an "oaf" I have no idea, but it does make you uninformed.

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One thing is for sure you can put a spin on something better than any major league pitcher.


There's no spin in what I posted, nor is any needed.

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We will just have to wait and see if Tara wins her motion and has the SC suit dismissed, hopefully where you won't be able to come after her anymore.


I'm curious about this statement. I have a letter from Ms. King in which she admits that she sold off the original discs she had and retained copies, which she uses for her shows. I know you're aware that I have it because we've discussed it on another board. By anyone's measure, that's piracy. This is not a situation where she claims to have 1:1 correspondence. Leaving aside the procedural stuff--which, while important, has nothing to do with the merits of the case--are you actually rooting for her, a pirate, to prevail?


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I'm curious about this statement. I have a letter from Ms. King in which she admits that she sold off the original discs she had and retained copies, which she uses for her shows. I know you're aware that I have it because we've discussed it on another board. By anyone's measure, that's piracy. This is not a situation where she claims to have 1:1 correspondence. Leaving aside the procedural stuff--which, while important, has nothing to do with the merits of the case--are you actually rooting for her, a pirate, to prevail?


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We reached settlements with most of the Vegas defendants, at least the ones who appeared in the case. But it does make me chuckle a bit to see someone who has ZERO knowledge of actual facts concerning a subject make such a conclusive statement about what happened.

you can see why it appears that nothing has happened, those are sealed so no one but you knows they ever happened. its like i told one bar owner who talked to problem patrons after closing privately, if the ones it affects do not see the conversation, it didn't happen.
if the parties are actual pirates and settle but no one can know about it, how can that be a deterrent to other pirates? there were no consequences to the piracy. you can SAY there were but if everything is kept hush hush, how does anyone know?

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8) Legal baloney is still baloney no matter how you slice it Jim. Of course if you get caught with your pants down I don't expect you to admit it, after all you have to put on the best face, and protect your clients interests. The best way to do that is to paint others as uninformed oafs.


I'm not painting you as anything. I know who the parties to the settlements are. You aren't one of them. Ergo, you have no actual knowledge of what occurred. Yet, here you are making incorrect assertions of fact on those subjects. Whether that makes you an "oaf" I have no idea, but it does make you uninformed.

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One thing is for sure you can put a spin on something better than any major league pitcher.


There's no spin in what I posted, nor is any needed.

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We will just have to wait and see if Tara wins her motion and has the SC suit dismissed, hopefully where you won't be able to come after her anymore.


I'm curious about this statement. I have a letter from Ms. King in which she admits that she sold off the original discs she had and retained copies, which she uses for her shows. I know you're aware that I have it because we've discussed it on another board. By anyone's measure, that's piracy. This is not a situation where she claims to have 1:1 correspondence. Leaving aside the procedural stuff--which, while important, has nothing to do with the merits of the case--are you actually rooting for her, a pirate, to prevail?



8) That procedural stuff as you call it is very important. If you are not licensed to practice law in Nevada then you shouldn't be representing SC period, you should have a lawyer who is licensed carrying the ball. Are you the only lawyer that SC can hire or is it you are the one who is trusted? If you were trusted so much why did SC have hire APS in the first place? I'm not rooting for pirates or the manus, I want the industry to survive and all of this legal farce to cease. At this point to me at least there are no good guys or bad guys and sorting out everything will take more time than it's worth. I have always been for amnesty and an operator's license to run a karaoke service. It will never happen because the powers that be don't want it to happen. They want this bad movie to keep running, I have the advantage that I can leave the theater, and plan to do so at the end of October. Keep your little settlements secret if the truth got out how pathetic they really are, it would be an embarrassment to you and your client. The way you were embarrassed by the paltry Panama City awards, that were upheld on appeal. Let's not forget how Bob got the best of you in that particular case without even a lawyer. I would want to keep secrets also Jim. Have a legal day.


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We reached settlements with most of the Vegas defendants, at least the ones who appeared in the case. But it does make me chuckle a bit to see someone who has ZERO knowledge of actual facts concerning a subject make such a conclusive statement about what happened.

you can see why it appears that nothing has happened, those are sealed so no one but you knows they ever happened. its like i told one bar owner who talked to problem patrons after closing privately, if the ones it affects do not see the conversation, it didn't happen.
if the parties are actual pirates and settle but no one can know about it, how can that be a deterrent to other pirates? there were no consequences to the piracy. you can SAY there were but if everything is kept hush hush, how does anyone know?



8) Why would they want to deter pirates Paradigm? They are encouraging them to settle before coming to court in order to get a better deal. Better yet they want them out of fear to either lease or subscribe to what ever products they are peddling. It the truth were really known about what happens with these settlements the defendants would know there is really nothing to fear but fear itself. That is why they must keep secrets. Look at the cases where we know what happened like in California 41 defendants walked and didn't pay a dime. Since we don't know what happened with these Las Vegas settlements we don't know if SC came out on top or ended up a net loser. If they lost you can bet they don't want it public knowledge. We will know if Tara wins her motion and it lays Las Vegas to rest for good.


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you can see why it appears that nothing has happened, those are sealed so no one but you knows they ever happened. its like i told one bar owner who talked to problem patrons after closing privately, if the ones it affects do not see the conversation, it didn't happen.
if the parties are actual pirates and settle but no one can know about it, how can that be a deterrent to other pirates? there were no consequences to the piracy. you can SAY there were but if everything is kept hush hush, how does anyone know?


Well if they scare off all the pirates they'll be out of business. If SC could start making product again don't you think they would? They appear to be making more money filing legal action and then selling the folks their product. For the 100th time, they don't want piracy to end, they'd lose their newly found customer base.


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