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However, it would stand to reason that if you have information about Defendant A from SC's pursuit, and you go up against Defendant A again as PR's representative, that that might present the conflict. Just doesn't seem the "I won't use the privileged information about Defendant A for PR, I PWOMISE!!!" mentality would work...


What privileged information would you be referring to?

If information is privileged in the hands of a defendant, I won't have my hands on it in the first place.


I suppose trying to come up with exact scenarios could be tricky, but generally speaking I would think any and all information discovered concerning Defendant A while representing Company A would be the source of conflict while representing Company B against Defendant A...


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However, it would stand to reason that if you have information about Defendant A from SC's pursuit, and you go up against Defendant A again as PR's representative, that that might present the conflict. Just doesn't seem the "I won't use the privileged information about Defendant A for PR, I PWOMISE!!!" mentality would work...


What privileged information would you be referring to?

If information is privileged in the hands of a defendant, I won't have my hands on it in the first place.


I don't think that doowhatchulike is saying that Defendant A has privileged information, I think he's saying that the Prosecuting Attorney (you - HarringtonLaw) might be using privileged information obtained through your SC investigations (and on behalf of SC (your client)) to sue Defendant A a second time... this time on behalf of your other client (PR). If it's privileged information between Attorney and Client A, then doesn't it stand to hold true that that privileged information with SC should not (and could not) be used in representing PR (Client B)?


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However, it would stand to reason that if you have information about Defendant A from SC's pursuit, and you go up against Defendant A again as PR's representative, that that might present the conflict. Just doesn't seem the "I won't use the privileged information about Defendant A for PR, I PWOMISE!!!" mentality would work...


What privileged information would you be referring to?

If information is privileged in the hands of a defendant, I won't have my hands on it in the first place.


I don't think that doowhatchulike is saying that Defendant A has privileged information, I think he's saying that the Prosecuting Attorney (you - HarringtonLaw) might be using privileged information obtained through your SC investigations (and on behalf of SC (your client)) to sue Defendant A a second time... this time on behalf of your other client (PR). If it's privileged information between Attorney and Client A, then doesn't it stand to hold true that that privileged information with SC should not (and could not) be used in representing PR (Client B)?


The detail of your assessment of my point is more than sufficient--thank you! :D I suppose I gave too much credit in the simplicity of my scenario that the point would be made...wait a minute: :idea: YOU picked up on it, didn't you, Cueball?!?!? :oops: :lol:


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Paradigm Karaoke wrote:
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As for the topic of this thread...probably just a mistake. File was probably just missed when converting the Chartbuster tracks to DT format.


That's precisely what happened. When you're converting and re-rendering literally thousands of video files, sometimes a machine gaks, or a file doesn't get properly written, and somehow QC misses it. Thanks for the heads-up on the Bellamy Bros. tune - we'll get that fixed ASAP.


also show them to me by rodney carrington has the CB logo.



Where did you purchase this song? It has been pulled from the Karaoke Cloud due to licensing.


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cueball wrote:
I don't think that doowhatchulike is saying that Defendant A has privileged information, I think he's saying that the Prosecuting Attorney (you - HarringtonLaw) might be using privileged information obtained through your SC investigations (and on behalf of SC (your client)) to sue Defendant A a second time... this time on behalf of your other client (PR). If it's privileged information between Attorney and Client A, then doesn't it stand to hold true that that privileged information with SC should not (and could not) be used in representing PR (Client B)?


The information gained in investigations is not privileged unless some privilege other than work product immunity.

The reports themselves are privileged because they contain instructions to the investigators regarding the process to be used.

Sharing a report with both SC and PR would not destroy that privilege because those communications would be confidential and because the privilege arises from its status as my work, not the fact that they are confidential communications.

However, this has not come up, and I doubt it ever will. When we do a joint action, we begin it as a joint action.


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Where did you purchase this song? It has been pulled from the Karaoke Cloud due to licensing.

I think the pulling of licensing is partly what was scaring people away from the streaming cloud service, being they may have the song one day and not the next - with a disc or download, even if a song was pulled, you'd still have it.
What does that do with the KJ Media Pro when you get the hard drive, if songs are on it that are pulled later.

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Found another song that needs looking at. Here In My Heart by Chicago. Has CB logo at break and at the end of the song.

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also show them to me by rodney carrington has the CB logo.



Where did you purchase this song? It has been pulled from the Karaoke Cloud due to licensing.


when it was on SAT for a short time. i was excited as i didn't need anything else on the CB disc so i snatched it as soon as it was available.
will DT tracks be going back on SAT? i have no problem buying from you, just knowledge.

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when it was on SAT for a short time. i was excited as i didn't need anything else on the CB disc so i snatched it as soon as it was available.
will DT tracks be going back on SAT? i have no problem buying from you, just knowledge.

I got a few from SAT as well and would also like to know if you are going to have these available through there. I prefer custom discs over downloads if at all possible. Or if you offered custom discs like Chartbuster did - that would be a major plus!

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Where did you purchase this song? It has been pulled from the Karaoke Cloud due to licensing.


this is my one hangup with the cloud. i would have to tell my singer tomorrow "sorry, you can t sing that anymore" or "sorry, no more adelle"

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Whereas if you own the disc that will never be a problem.

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chrisavis wrote:
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....one has to remember sometimes misinformation can also be used by the opposing side, in order to make their position seem stronger than it really is.


Well now....isn't our kettle just as black....

-Chris


8) Exactly Chris, all information on these forums at least concerning piracy should be taken with more than just a grain of salt. I take what I get here and see how it gels with the conditions of my own karaoke market. So far there are no boots on the ground in my area and things are going along like they always have. Maybe it is the calm before the storm, or maybe this is all sound and fury signifying nothing. Only time will tell. Have a blessed day.


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Paradigm Karaoke wrote:
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Where did you purchase this song? It has been pulled from the Karaoke Cloud due to licensing.


this is my one hangup with the cloud. i would have to tell my singer tomorrow "sorry, you can t sing that anymore" or "sorry, no more adelle"


This is why we offer downloads to purchase as well. As far as SAT, I am not sure. I am not in any of those meetings. If I hear otherwise I will let you know.


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Found another song that needs looking at. Here In My Heart by Chicago. Has CB logo at break and at the end of the song.



This is another song that has been pulled.


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It was in the media pro.

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Where did you purchase this song? It has been pulled from the Karaoke Cloud due to licensing.


this is my one hangup with the cloud. i would have to tell my singer tomorrow "sorry, you can t sing that anymore" or "sorry, no more adelle"


This is why we offer downloads to purchase as well. As far as SAT, I am not sure. I am not in any of those meetings. If I hear otherwise I will let you know.

But that was supposed to be the beauty of the cloud, so downloads wouldn't be an issue. So someone sees a song they want to sing, writes it down for themselves to go learn at home, then comes back the next day or week to sing it and it isn't there anymore.
Download ability wouldn't do any good in this case. Which is why I want physical media over streaming or download. Will you guys be offering custom discs anytime in the future?

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It was in the media pro.

the new just released media pro?

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Yes the just released media pro.

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... I want physical media over streaming or download. Will you guys be offering custom discs anytime in the future?

I second this question (and I don't care what Chris or Bazza have to say about that!!!).


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... I want physical media over streaming or download. Will you guys be offering custom discs anytime in the future?

I second this question (and I don't care what Chris or Bazza have to say about that!!!).


Huh?


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