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8) Gee Bazza I thought you are a hard nosed businessman, you don't watch your bottom line? I don't feel I'm losing any quality by avoiding the SC label. Most of my customers want DK, I play to the crowd. If they all started demanding SC I would have to rethink the boycott and maybe license GEM that hasn't happened yet. It is true I do watch costs a habit I picked up from my parents who were children during the Great Depression. That is why I don't have any debt. I own all my equipment and music, and run my business on the principles of hard work, cost containment, and family centered service to my customers. It has worked fairly well for me, can't say it will work for everyone. Have a blessed day.

Nobody "demands SC", or DK, or any brand for that matter. This is a red herring. I provide the best quality, truest to the originals music I can, and that is SC 98% of the time. People like what they hear. I like what I hear. I want the best. You may find this hard to believe, but it is possible to have the BEST quality music, top quality equipment, and still be profitable (without debt) at the same time.

One must not scrape the bottom of the depression era cheese barrel in order to eat. Enjoy your cheese scraps.

Sure you can spend any amount of money on your business. You want a high quality expensive operation that costs money. The amount spent could be justified if <snip>?

Also if the brand is such a red herring and makes no difference then why not go with any brand? Since SC is one of the most expensive per track, wouldn't it make more sense to go with the less expensive, from a business standpoint?

P.S. Has far as a bullet to the brain I feel that way when a young singer comes up and starts rapping, or someone does heavy metal, that is why karaoke is something that can be applied to all groups. I have specialized much like a doctor and it has paid off for me.

I could spend cheaply on equipment & selection, probably could make it successful as well and get the stereotypical karaoke drunk/screamer/tone deaf/etc. I prefer to have better quality in both sound & selection which reflects on the type of singers I get in.
I concede - yes one can be just as successful with lesser quality sound and selection, but these are not the shows better singers tend to seek out.

(Yawn)

Basically, you are willing to put scrap goat meat in your chili in order to maximize profit. I put in sirloin chunks. Yes. It costs me more.

I guess you made a larger profit, so you win.

I still have better chili.



Obviously you don't understand what a "Red Herring" is. It's a logical fallacy that misleads or detracts from the issue.
You said people don't demand SC. THAT is the red herring. The reality is that people don't demand anything.

Friends and family don't demand I put sirloin in my chili instead of goat meat. I do it because it tastes better, even if more expensive.

So the answer is no. It doesnt make sense to sacrifice quality in order to make a few more pennies. Some of us just have higher standards.

Then you would HATE our show. LOTS of metal (80's hair band to 2000's alternative), hard rock (Pantera, Five Finger Death Punch,etc), pop and newer country. Not much rapping at our show though. Too much cussing in the lyrics, the bar doesn't allow that.

Well you can use inferior parts, ingredients, or whatever and pass it off and get people to buy it but as they say "Quality is better than quantity".

If the public is not demanding a particular brand you can use any can't you Bazza?

You never had any goat it can be quite good if cooked right.

I think of it more like going to different places to eat. If I want to go to an upscale restaurant and have a steak dinner then I pay the price.

The bottom line is as long as you are providing the karaoke service and it is successful, why reinvent the wheel. You have more time to experiment with and grow with the business, I don't.

I could, yes. But I want to provide the highest quality experience. I want only the best for my fans.



I have had a lot of goat actually, even ate Cabrito (BBQ Baby Goat) in Monterrey, MX. I travel international extensively for my day job, even had to have extra pages put in my passport. I have eaten things you wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole. I'm going to Peru in a few months and will probably try the local delicacy, Cuy. (Guinea Pig).

It's still not the best choice for my Chili.



Then I am you steak dinner.



Well that's the crux right there, isn't it. I am always trying to improve my show. Enhance the experience, be it higher quality music, additional lighting/effects, etc. I refuse to be that old "name caller" in town who has the exact same show he did 10 years ago.

If it ain't broke don't fix it Bazza.

As long as there is a market of a certain type of show, there will be a host to do it. There is a market for Golden Oldie Shows, you wouldn't want to do it.

Karaoke is not just for the best singers it is for everyone. Those best singers you are talking about drink water or sip on a diet soda all night hardly making the venue the profit it needs to stay in business. For you to provide the service you need to stay in business, I come on these forums and hosts talk about how they would like to buy some discs or a new piece of equipment, but they can't afford it, why? If they have been in business for a while and are successful they should be able to buy what they need for the business. All of the tip money I make goes into an account and that is what I use to buy what my business needs. I take the money the patrons give me to invest in the business. If I feel I need something I just go out and buy it, no problem. Some of the most packed shows in town are at venues where the host equipment is not top grade. The quality of equipment Oand library is important, they are not the only factors, otherwise there would be more successful hosts out here than there are. The host requires skills also, that can't be taught except through experience. Have a blessed day

That's the whole point Lonman I feel that karaoke hosts need to specialize and not be general practitioners. There are markets for both types of shows, since taste in music like any other art form is not universal. You can make money and I can make money, from totally different groups and not be in direct competition with each other. Have a blessed day.

If you are in a high population area you can specialize in niche shows but if venues are few and far between then you have to be able to accommodate different styles of crowds.

One type of crowd I have encountered are people who aren't just into the singing part of the song but into the whole experience of the music--they want that signature guitar solo or drum beat and if they are going to get into it they want it to sound as authentic as possible. A good backing track can make up for a marginal singer and fill the dance floor just on it own sometimes. I don't even have as many SC tracks as I'd like but I've had experiences with them where the singer actually commented on the music and said they felt like they had just sung to the real thing and I had to convince them it was just a karaoke track.

8) By the same token Lonnie you can watch costs, and still run a quality karaoke service, and still make a profit. Have a blessed day