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as we are splitting legal hairs now, i went last night and bought "sugar Daddy" from the Bellamy Brothers and there, plain as day was the CB logo on screen. What does that mean for the liability? Does that mean that DT is infringing on the CB trademark (owned by PRLLC, no affiliation to DTE) for all these songs for commercial purposes (resale)?

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Paradigm Karaoke, The New Standard.......Shift Happens

Maybe PR, LLC asked Digitrax pay $150 for an audit to show they were 1:1 and then granted them a covenant not to sue.

-Chris

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Or maybe Digitrax is simply Chartbuster in Disguise? I once knew a guy who was busted by the IRS and now all of his assets are in his son's name. It happens all of the time. It's just a shell game but we should all trust Digitrax.

Perhaps Digitrax entered into a licensing agreement with PR LLC.

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Never the same show twice!

After the collapse of CB I remember James described the relationship between DTE and PR as an affiliation, according to the dictionary I have that means "to associate as a member or branch". What makes this so confusing is one is in the production part of the business, and the other is responsible for the protection of the trademark. SC does both these jobs, I just wonder how coordinated the two are, doesn't seem PR has done much since the CB collapse has far as trademark protection is concerned.

maybe, but i thought he said there was no affiliation between the companies.
either way it is odd to buy Digitrax with a Digitrax opening logo on a Chartbuster track with Chartbuster grapgics and Chartbuster logos throughout the track.

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Maybe since James is the only poster in the know about the true relationship between the two companies, he should come on an explain it. If the reason PR is holding off on the legal process, to help out Digitrax, and not have any negative backlash on cloud or other products, then their relationship would have to be pretty close. Almost to where the actions of one effects the profits of the other. Have a blessed day.

I have to hand it to you. You certainly have the market cornered on uninformed speculation.

Not having all the information like you do at my finger tips James, all I can do is speculate. Seems like PR has fallen off the radar screen and I'm still waiting for SC to come knocking it hasn't happened yet. You like to stir up the situation rather than truly inform, the more speculation the more licensing of the GEM product right? We are now in May is that new product coming or is there another delay like the last three missed deadlines? Have a legal day.

DT and PR are affiliated entities. PR owns the Chartbuster Karaoke trademarks and uses them by licensing them to others.

My understanding was that DT would not be selling CB-branded tracks going forward because DT is focused on building its own brand. If that has changed, it was changed without my knowledge. DT is not my client, so I don't have all of the details on what they are doing. I can assure you, however, that if DT is selling CB-branded tracks, it is not an infringement.

Or you could, maybe, not speculate.

At least speculating gets you to provide information once in awhile, without it you wouldn't have the opportunity to show how silly everyone else is and how superior you are. The only reason for your mastery of the subject is your superior information sources. These come from your legal relationship with your clients. Speculation sometimes strikes a nerve and gets a response, just like throwing something on the wall and seeing if it sticks. Sort of like probing an enemy's position, it is what we call in the military gathering intelligence. When you are guessing what a foe might do that is also speculation. So yes speculation does serve a useful purpose. Have a legal day.

DT is not your client, is PR?

What information have you extracted from Harrington's replies that has benefitted anyone?

-Chris

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For one he did answer the question about the relationship between DTE and PR, now we have a little bit better understanding of their business arrangements. Have a blessed day.

And how did that benefit anyone? Did anyone really care?

-Chris

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Paradigm cared enough to start this thread to get information Chris? Have a blessed day.

As for the topic of this thread...probably just a mistake. File was probably just missed when converting the Chartbuster tracks to DT format.

I've gotten All Star tracks that have both a Karaoke Cloud opening screen on them followed by CB graphics and rarely even a CB opening screen. It has been mentioned that Digitrax has been gradually renewing the licensing on the CB tracks bit by bit.

It isn't something that really worries me but it does make for a bit of wondering should audits come into play. For those who like to know what they are singing to I put the manu codes in my books. So I've been wondering if I know an All Star track is a CB/Cloud or a Pocket Songs or a Sunfly if I should put CB in my books instead of ASK for the singer's benefit--but really if I were to get audited the tracks should be listed as ASK. Not a big deal to me but it does get confusing.

Audited by whom?