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Thought I should mention this,because it seems a few people are having some trouble getting my last sub to download for them to listen.

I dont know why this would be happening,might be something for phil to check into?

If you do have trouble..please come back and let me know in here,as it may be something for phil to look into

Many Many Many thanks to all you wonderful folks for listening to my subs..and leaving such kind comments!! I love you all! Hugss

I checked a couple different ways. I didn't experience any trouble on any of them?

Hmm, anyone else?

Tried with my main computer: Cable connection 2.6 - no problem, very fast.

Email computer: DSL 1.3 - fast also.

LapTop: DSL via wireless connection 1.2 - No problem, still fast.

Mac (Quadra 660AV) Oldie with 14.4 modem... Yep still have one. Special service to use this... Takes awhile to load the page and download. about 2 minutes. Not too bad though.

P H I L L

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ok thanks phil! glad all is well...and thank you ....you too Melly

Ive never had any troubles downloading songs on SS...everyones always come up like the speed of light for me to. Which is great! Thanks again!

~ Tammy

Tammy-

Actually, I was in a conversation with another member with troubles on MY submissions.... and he also told me that it seemed YOU had the same problems? As a non paying member, I post files that are usually 2.9 Mb, and are usually compressed at around 100 kbps, on average. Apparently, he told me that my submissions took quite a long time to download, and that his player was telling him that they were all over 300+ kbps.... He said yours did the same thing...

I am completely confused because, obviously, if mine were at 322 kbps, the song would be like, 8 mb... and, I am obviously not posting songs THAT big...

Any ideas? My husband and I give up, and I have tried to reproduce his results, with virtual pc, and cannot.

Thanks!

(And tammy, I will check your new sub, but never had an issue with any OTHER ones of yours... anyone else with mine?)

Phill! You have an ancient mac! Wow, gawd, that came out in... 1993... I think my hubby used to own one.. we have an old powermac 7200 kicking around though.... we have a lot of comptuers... right now, three new ones, but.. we DO have a powerbook 170 (a 1991 computer) If you knw anythign about macs, we actually own an Apple IIc, which believe it or not, was purchased in 1984! And my daughter uses a mac plus... which is... late 80's.... but, she loves it:)

Ok, babbling, ignore me. Just shocked to see ya with a quadra:)

Gilly..I just went and checked my sub...and it says 149kbits for me..I dont know why mine or yours would be showing 300plus to some members.Ive never had any trouble downloading yours or anyones for that matter...I click it up,,and its there with in seconds. Menephes and Mr.Beatle have trouble downloadin mine sometimes too..Im clueless as to why. Dunno why some see 300plus

~ Tammy

No problems on my end, I did see the comment made on Gilly's sub but it showed 100k on my player when I listened to it, don't know why someone would see 300k???

I wouldn't want to be unable to play Tammy or Gilly's song, what a nightmare that would be

Hi Tammy

I dont think its the site, as this for me has been going on for well over a year now, I remember another site I heard you on I had the same trouble, I dont know anymore, I'm just gonna put this down to a strange phenomia.
Everybody elses sub, kicks in as soon as I hit Listen, but on yours It takes like up to 30 secs - 60 sec before I canhear anything, Also On Goonermans, But Only every now and again with his,
one other thing, the silly songs you did the other day about the cookies etc, they kicked in straight away, didnt have to wait my 30secs on those ones

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I dream of songs of love, peace and harmony.

I can make a guess here...

If you're using VBR (Variable Bit-Rate Encoding) instead of fixed your player might report wrong play times or bitrate encoding. I'd double check the setting you're encoding at to see if this might be the problem.

Another problem might be an out of date player. Check the winblows update site to verify you have the latest release of Internet Exploder and Media Slayer.

I'd dump your temporary internet files as well. I've seen occasions where they created problems and even though they shouldn't in this case it never hurts to try.

Interesting.

Actually, I don't use variable bit rate encoding.. I use Average, (ABR).. and very occasionally, when my hubby does my music, He uses CBR.

Could this in some way be affecting how some people's players read my music? I have absolutely NO idea, and I am a ditz:) And, about windows media player, I believe Tonmay told me he was using a quicktime player? (as I do as well, being a mac user) Anyways, Tammy, how do you encode your music?

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I dream of songs of love, peace and harmony.

Try using CBR encoding - this uses a fixed bit rate for encoding. Check the sampling frequency as well. Some products are more flexible on the encoding that some products are on the decoding. :roll I'm only aware of Constant and Variable bit rate encoding so 'average' is likely variable unless your software says otherwise (VBR is the better option for smaller files with better quality, but it's not always implemented correctly).

A wrong display on the media player bar is a key sign that the player doesn't like something about the way the file is encoded. I used to get this with some players with the VBR files I get from eMusic. Once I upgraded the players I use the problems disappeared.

By default Windows Internet Explorer opens the files in a new Internet Explorer window that plays the music. Older versions of Internet Explorer and Media Player 'might' have problems. I don't use RealPlayer when I listen to the subs so I can't comment in regards to using it.

I do know that non-MS browsers (Opera/Mozilla based browsers) don't work too well with the subs (it's a MIME problem I haven't had time to work on yet).

I don't think it's a Mac problem other than perhaps more 'options' than on the MS side of the house... (I'm not a big 'fan' of Microsloth if you haven't noticed.. MCSE/MCT or no)

I don't know very much ABOUT encoding anything, other than what my husband helped me with, and I tried on my own.... however..

"ABR- The number of bits is determined bysome metric (like perceptual entropy, or just the number of bitsneeded for a certain set of encoding tables), and it is not based on computing the actual encoding/quantization error. ABR is still in beta, but it should always give results equal or better than CBR"

Beats ME though:)

And, no, I doubt it would ever be a "mac problem".... and I agree with "microsloth"... but then, I haven't many microsoft programs.. And you wouldn't catch me using internet explorer, windows media player, etc. Ever:) heck, I rarely use Virtual PC, because it scares me to have my pretty mac LOOK like a pc;) (and, as a browser, I use Safari, and Camino)


Blab blab blah.

At least i NOW know this is a restricted incident, and not many people have problems with my submissions:) Yee haw:)

It's the encoding mechanism. I'd be willing to bet on it. Especially since it's still in 'beta'.

I'm a Microsoft Certified Engineer and used to teach technical classes as a Microsoft Certified Trainer and I don't like them. I still work on the systems on a daily basis (as a Network and Systems Engineer) and don't like 'em. BTW, I wasn't a big fan of Mac OS (it was getting pretty bloated) until they got smart w/ Mac OS X and went w/ a BSD based operating system that trimmed some of the fat.

I don't think the counter/timer reading wrong is a 'problem' - it's an inconvenience. If they don't play at all then the person listening should upgade Windblows Media Slayer and Internet Exploder.