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Paradigm Karaoke
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Lonman wrote: I retired the tape deck a few years ago (2006 or 07), .... i came across a Singing Machine 8-track karaoke machine at a goodwill months ago.......didn't even know they existed.
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Lonman
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:09 am |
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That was one of the first karaoke machines I ever saw in action in 89. Only at one place though - it was one of my first experiences. Most were using cassettes with binders full of lyrics sheets - and even fewer had the Pioneer set up with ALL 10 discs, they later up to 23, then 31 (later having to pull numbers 29 & 31 for licensing issues - later to be released as 34 & 35) - these were the ones I tended to frequent!
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Brian A
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:03 pm |
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Smoothedge69 wrote: I have filled my computer with what I can, and I use my Sound Choice discs as discs (real PITA, but oh well) Smooth, friendly advice - I already know why you don't want your sc in the hd but I do hope you back-up your orig SC discs, if not hardrive at least cd copies. Almost 15% of my sc collection somehow develops small pinholes thru the years that they’re no longer playable. I transferred them from binders to plastic cases to stop further deterioration. I think I’m down now to 7% from ebay replacements & several custom-made.
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Smoothedge69
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:06 pm |
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Brian A wrote: Smoothedge69 wrote: I have filled my computer with what I can, and I use my Sound Choice discs as discs (real PITA, but oh well) Smooth, friendly advice - I already know why you don't want your sc in the hd but I do hope you back-up your orig SC discs, if not hardrive at least cd copies. Almost 15% of my sc collection somehow develops small pinholes thru the years that they’re no longer playable. I transferred them from binders to plastic cases to stop further deterioration. I think I’m down now to 7% from ebay replacements & several custom-made. I thought they don't allow back ups, in any form.
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Smoothedge69 wrote: Brian A wrote: Smoothedge69 wrote: I have filled my computer with what I can, and I use my Sound Choice discs as discs (real PITA, but oh well) Smooth, friendly advice - I already know why you don't want your sc in the hd but I do hope you back-up your orig SC discs, if not hardrive at least cd copies. Almost 15% of my sc collection somehow develops small pinholes thru the years that they’re no longer playable. I transferred them from binders to plastic cases to stop further deterioration. I think I’m down now to 7% from ebay replacements & several custom-made. I thought they don't allow back ups, in any form. I can give you a lengthy answer but it might develop into a lengthy legalities discussion. I’ll just say “1:1 compliance”. Tracks must have originated from an original cd shifted to another medium only & must maintain ownership & possession of the orig. I think there was a recent policy change (change of mind from higher-ups) about request permission from Slep-Tone after shifting. Again, I don't want this to turn into legalities discussion as it has been covered in length extensively from other threads.
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Lonman
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:01 pm |
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Smoothedge69 wrote: Brian A wrote: Smoothedge69 wrote: I have filled my computer with what I can, and I use my Sound Choice discs as discs (real PITA, but oh well) Smooth, friendly advice - I already know why you don't want your sc in the hd but I do hope you back-up your orig SC discs, if not hardrive at least cd copies. Almost 15% of my sc collection somehow develops small pinholes thru the years that they’re no longer playable. I transferred them from binders to plastic cases to stop further deterioration. I think I’m down now to 7% from ebay replacements & several custom-made. I thought they don't allow back ups, in any form. If you aren't using them in shows, yes you can back them up for personal use. _________________ LIKE Lonman on Facebook - Lonman Productions Karaoke & my main site via my profile!
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Smoothedge69
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Brian A wrote: Smoothedge69 wrote: Brian A wrote: Smoothedge69 wrote: I have filled my computer with what I can, and I use my Sound Choice discs as discs (real PITA, but oh well) Smooth, friendly advice - I already know why you don't want your sc in the hd but I do hope you back-up your orig SC discs, if not hardrive at least cd copies. Almost 15% of my sc collection somehow develops small pinholes thru the years that they’re no longer playable. I transferred them from binders to plastic cases to stop further deterioration. I think I’m down now to 7% from ebay replacements & several custom-made. I thought they don't allow back ups, in any form. I can give you a lengthy answer but it might develop into a lengthy legalities discussion. I’ll just say “1:1 compliance”. Tracks must have originated from an original cd shifted to another medium only & must maintain ownership & possession of the orig. I think there was a recent policy change (change of mind from higher-ups) about request permission from Slep-Tone after shifting. Again, I don't want this to turn into legalities discussion as it has been covered in length extensively from other threads. Eh, what I have at home can't hurt me. 
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Paradigm Karaoke
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:38 pm |
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Smoothedge69 wrote: I thought they don't allow back ups, in any form. same as a computer, and audit is required. play them till they wear out then get the KC downloads to replace it instead of another disc. same music, sane sweeps, just different color.
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:39 pm |
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Paradigm Karaoke wrote: Smoothedge69 wrote: I thought they don't allow back ups, in any form. same as a computer, and audit is required. play them till they wear out then get the KC downloads to replace it instead of another disc. same music, sane sweeps, just different color. Not for personal use - ie not using in shows no audit would be needed. It's if he wanted to actually use them in the show is when audits would be a factor. _________________ LIKE Lonman on Facebook - Lonman Productions Karaoke & my main site via my profile!
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Lonman wrote: Paradigm Karaoke wrote: Smoothedge69 wrote: I thought they don't allow back ups, in any form. same as a computer, and audit is required. play them till they wear out then get the KC downloads to replace it instead of another disc. same music, sane sweeps, just different color. Not for personal use - ie not using in shows no audit would be needed. It's if he wanted to actually use them in the show is when audits would be a factor. If he is still playing off of discs no audit is required. They don't officially audit disc based kj's.
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Only if he's using his original discs at a show and not his copies.
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timberlea wrote: Only if he's using his original discs at a show and not his copies. On a good day.. 
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Lonman
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:58 pm |
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timberlea wrote: Only if he's using his original discs at a show and not his copies. Don't really matter at that point, no chance he'll play SC at his show in any manner. _________________ LIKE Lonman on Facebook - Lonman Productions Karaoke & my main site via my profile!
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Paradigm Karaoke wrote: Smoothedge69 wrote: I thought they don't allow back ups, in any form. same as a computer, and audit is required. play them till they wear out then get the KC downloads to replace it instead of another disc. same music, sane sweeps, just different color. KC isn't for show use, though. I would LOVE to replace my SC with downloaded stuff.
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Smoothedge69 wrote: Paradigm Karaoke wrote: Smoothedge69 wrote: I thought they don't allow back ups, in any form. same as a computer, and audit is required. play them till they wear out then get the KC downloads to replace it instead of another disc. same music, sane sweeps, just different color. KC isn't for show use, though. I would LOVE to replace my SC with downloaded stuff. I believe Gretchen stated otherwise. That as long as your client is paying their ASCAPP and BMI dues then it is covered.
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DannyG2006 wrote: Smoothedge69 wrote: Paradigm Karaoke wrote: Smoothedge69 wrote: I thought they don't allow back ups, in any form. same as a computer, and audit is required. play them till they wear out then get the KC downloads to replace it instead of another disc. same music, sane sweeps, just different color. KC isn't for show use, though. I would LOVE to replace my SC with downloaded stuff. I believe Gretchen stated otherwise. That as long as your client is paying their ASCAPP and BMI dues then it is covered. Hell, I'll be all over that, then. .
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Lonman wrote: I still use my laserdiscs - in mpg format though! These are still preferred versions by many.
I retired the tape deck a few years ago (2006 or 07), would occasionally have people bringing in a cassette, but it became so rare and I had most of the songs (same music versions oftentimes) that there was no point in the hassle anymore. I stopped using my tapes around 98-99. I have converted my laserdiscs to mp3-g. I still chuckle at some of the graphics from the lasers!!
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DannyG2006 wrote: I believe Gretchen stated otherwise. That as long as your client is paying their ASCAPP and BMI dues then it is covered. as did Harrington....
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:22 am |
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Smoothedge69 wrote: DannyG2006 wrote: I believe Gretchen stated otherwise. That as long as your client is paying their ASCAPP and BMI dues then it is covered. Hell, I'll be all over that, then. . But that would mean actually finding out if your club is paying those fees! _________________ LIKE Lonman on Facebook - Lonman Productions Karaoke & my main site via my profile!
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Lonman wrote: Smoothedge69 wrote: DannyG2006 wrote: I believe Gretchen stated otherwise. That as long as your client is paying their ASCAPP and BMI dues then it is covered. Hell, I'll be all over that, then. . But that would mean actually finding out if your club is paying those fees! The place I fill in at does pay their fees. I did a gig the weekend before Halloween, and the owner wanted to talk to me about staying on, though she did not want to pay me enough. Well, she told me that she hasn't paid her fees in a couple of years. Told me outright. I haven't gone back, since.
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