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The OP's odd text,
has inspired my to write,
More forum Haiku!

Stop using Sound Choice?
An option for you of course.
Customers suffer.

Sound Choice discs are great.
But you should not pirate them.
Honesty is best.

Do you fear Sound Choice?
The honest KJ's do not.
For we do not pirate.

Just a small town girl,
You know the rest of the words,
Steve Perry must die.

OK, I am done.
Really, I swear I will stop.
Nothing more to see.

Stogie, you forgot one. How many businesses would love for their customers to buy their product, duplicate it, use the duplicate and should something happen to the duplicate, just duplicate another one. At least SC will allow you to make a copy as long as you can prove you have the original.

As we all know it is relatively cheap to duplicate IP.

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5/7/5, Bazza. Five syllables, seven syllables, five syllables. So, "for we do not pirate" should be "we do not pirate."

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Sorry. English nerd degrees coming out. Carry on, fellas.

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every karaoke and record label besides SC, and allow it for free.


for a fee.....

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It is tribal which is why smoking, but not a casino just a bar.

Gained customer may not help my bottom line, but it does help with the longevity of the gig, if people are coming in and spending because of something I am offering, then so be it.
I didn't fear a lawsuit before, but figured I would be proactive and do it anyway.
Awesome.
That's your choice to not use their product. I spent good money on mine and wish to continue to do so. So our club has not lost any revenue by my decision either - as a matter of fact we've gained more customers because of that fact.


Me neither.

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I guess you never heard of RIAA. But I said ANY business. Do you think Ford or Disney or Coke or McDonald's would allow you to buy one product, duplicate it, and continue to use it? You think SC is hard on TMs, try Disney.

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On every SC disc you own, it says, in essence, "DON'T COPY THIS DISC."

When you "put my disc on my puter" you are making a copy.

Every disc they've ever sold contains that warning, on the face of the disc itself.

You're correct. The only person who has lost any revenue because of your decision – is you.

Awesome.

How do you figure? I am still making money. Lost nothing except a small fee that I would blow at the casino in a day.
So you think it would be more beneficial for someone to take thousands of dollars of discs and put them in storage and not use them (or sell them) - spending extra hundreds if not thousands trying to replace the selection I had with other brands that I personally feel many aren't worth spending a dime on in the first place - provided one could even find some songs that was only made on SC, just to save from paying an audit fee?
Your right, describing it this way I really makes feel I made the right decision!
No revenue lost means to me = no unnecesary buying other brands (some very inferior) to replace tracks I already had mostly quality versions to begin with - provided I can find those tracks at all. Just A small fee and I am still good to go! PLUS the benefit of customers coming in because I have versions they prefer?
Awesome!
I am actually using the discs right now, computer is down and my laptop isn't working right now for some reason. Took a few discs in but quickly got the hang of it - actually do miss running solely discs, but don't miss not having my computer perks - looking up songs in a pinch, singer histroy, singers coming up listed, etc.

Now I can totally understand not wanting to use SC products if one didn't own a disc to begin with. Then I can see the point because the revenue lost to them would be much greater.

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Mike D,
I have no idea where you are but having our certifications in my little part of Florida is getting me more and higher paying jobs as more and more pull the brands. .I have however been asked to show I was legal and usually am hired right after showing my letters and listings on SC and CB approved sites. Sounds like the thieves have just filled the Venue owners in your area with BS....that can easily be corrected by properly educating the Owners. We have corrected "misconceptions" (AKA know as pirate patties around here) on many occasions. It is a joy to behold a owners face when given real solid legal proof when he realizes he was lied to by his "good friends" the pirates

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oh yes i sure have.....they sued people sharing songs on torrent sites, not one single dj for copying discs onto hard drive for pro use......not one.


you want me to compare making copy of a car, a drink, or a hamburger to making a backup of a disc?
as for disney..........i have them all on my hard drive as well and now all star is a dealer for the full disney line and allowing hard drive use......for free......

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I thought the CB site was dead when they went out of business a few months ago. And, I don't recall reading here that PR LLC or DT have handed out or approved any KJ certification/s (yet).

Which makes one wonder,"Is Certification from CB is even worth the paper its printed on?"

Now that someone else owns the trademark I have a feeling that all previous Certifications are null and void as the new holder of the trademark hasn't given anyone permission to SHIFT.

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You forgot to mention the cost in time spent constantly spewing the anti-SC rhetoric in long twisted drawn out posts!

Yes Lone when Comany One takes over Company Two everything in or related to Company Two becomes null and void - not. One of the weakest arguments yet.

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Do us all a favor and stay on your side of the border will you.....
It seems like you can't even agree with your self sometimes!

OH YEA what the heck is a Comany? Some kind of Canadian word?

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A stranger is a friend you haven't met yet

Folks need to be careful using the word "legal" when they mean "certified by a single vendor" - there are many legally run karaoke shows who have not been blessed by pope slep.

No Cuball can still get to the CB certified KJ site with this link.....http://www.chartbusterkaraoke.com/kjs

I should howerver do a screenshot in case the site is not archived in the future. I am sure DT will start a certification process at some point.

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"Integrity is choosing your thoughts, words and actions based on your principles and values rather than for your personal gain."
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"if a man has integrity, nothing else matters, If a man has no integrity, nothing else matters."
Lee McGuffey

"Which makes one wonder,"Is Certification from CB is even worth the paper its printed on?"

Now that someone else owns the trademark I have a feeling that all previous Certifications are null and void as the new holder of the trademark hasn't given anyone permission to SHIFT."


Hahahaha...mine must be printed on GOLD because they are getting me LOTS of jobs.

As far as someone else holding the trademark you and not giving permission to shift....well let me just say my IP Attorney(and I) think differently. My certification will serve me well for years to come. Best $$$ I have spent in a LONG time.....and when/if PR sets up a new program I will certify with them as well

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"Integrity is choosing your thoughts, words and actions based on your principles and values rather than for your personal gain."
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"if a man has integrity, nothing else matters, If a man has no integrity, nothing else matters."
Lee McGuffey

I can see some value to having a note from a manufacturer in a lawsuit riddled area such as yours, but to say you will certify with a company that has no product to certify is way overboard with the silliness.

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