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In all the frustration about the lack of karaoke downloads from American karaoke manufacturers because of the music publishers, I found this rather interesting story from the other side of the equation. Here's a band who wants to offer downloads on iTunes and can't because of a dispute with their label. The workaround? Rerecord all of their old songs to sound exactly the same, then they can deal with iTunes themselves.

http://gizmodo.com/5927492/def-leppard- ... en-colbert

The record labels and publishers CAN be taken out of the equation! I hope other artists see the benefit from this, then maybe someday we will see a world where there is no such thing as a music publisher

wishful thinking...I know

THAT is AWESOME. I read a couple other articles about this. Joe Elliot says the hardest thing is where is he supposed to find a 22 year old voice. He stated that he had to sing his throat into a shape to sing those songs. I would LOVE to see music publishers go out of business!!

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i think in the future, not to distant. that the performers now don't have to use publishers to get their music out there. with the internet and all the different mediums to distribute music there is no longer a need for the publisher.

but on the other side the artists are going to have to spend time to distribute music.

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And money to sue the crap out of the publishers to get rid of them. I would LOVE to see every music publisher out of business.

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Right on! Serves them right for being such evil greedy bastards in the first place.

The music producers, in my opinion, are the main reason that karaoke is so screwed up in North America.


Karaoke should be labeled as a separate entity so that when you go to pay for licensing you just licence a 'karaoke work' and that work is now yours, lock stock and barrel.

None of this bs over rights.

Want to license your work for downloads.. Go right ahead, its your you can do whatever the hell you want with it.

who me bitter? Absolutely

Yup, you can take the publishers out of the equation but then you would be responsible for manufacturing and distribution, tours (all the logisitics to go with it), legal, and probably a host of things I haven't heard of and all of it coming out of your own pocket.

Remember the publishers are the ones fronting the money so all the above can happen. Publishers like anyone of you out there who have savings, stocks, investments (whether bought individually or through life insrance or pension plans), etc, want the best return as possible.

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Far be it from me to stick up for publishers, but it is true that they often foot the bill for the very expensive studio time that's necessary to put together a professional release, as well as all of the other things referred to. They deserve to be compensated for the work they do. As it becomes less expensive to put together and distribute a professional-quality release, however, the role of publishers will be less important, of course.

In todays technology, studios aren't even needed anymore. There are several great home software that can rival the best studios - how many tracks is the difference. If a band nowdays wanted to release their own material, they can do so with very professional results, hire a good producer (if they don't know how) and then they have/control all rights themselves. Now the product may not be distributed as widespread as it may with a publisher, but if they can sell even 1000 copies of their album at $10 each and keep it all, or go through a publisher, paying their fees and sell 10000 copies at $10 each the band might see about the same return as they would've selling the lower volume. Plus side is they get a wider audience, but if they are worth anything, their audience would grow by word of mouth and with proper advertising.
There were recently several 'big name' bands (Pearl Jam I believe was one) that are dropping their publishers completely and doing it all on their own.

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The stories continue about "Publishers/Producers" that deduct all costs from the artists share (No matter how small) and keep the balance inhouse..
Surely the Producers woldn't do that, right?

Did you hear that Def Leppard is rerecording 25 songs from their back catalog so they can have complete control over them because Universal is screwing them?

http://www.triplem.com.au/brisbane/musi ... -gos7.html

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I did hear something about that.
It's like when Creedence Clearwater Revival and their old record label (Fantasy) tried to sue John Fogerty (original song writer & singer/guitarist) for plagerism for releasing a song on his 80's solo album (Old Man Down The Road) that 'sort of' resembled an old CCR tune Run Through The Jungle - the judge basically laughed it out of court since John Fogerty was the sole writer of the original tune, judge stated, you cannot plagerize your own work and closed the case.
But between the two songs, I really cannot hear the similarities.

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There is a similarity in the main riff. They are played very similar. But still he wrote both songs. Both of them being very GOOD songs, may I add.

Ok, just listened to them both. The main riff is similar in both, meaning they are the same key, and are played similarly. Then the choruses of the songs are similar in how they are sung.

"Better run through the Jungle"

" You got to hidey hidey hide"

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Yes I did. It was when I read the first post in this thread devoted to the topic.

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!!! I forgot that I got that here. I though I got it from Facebook. DUH!!!!

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