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DK is still in business, contact them and ask if they produced their library on SCDGs. Then you'll have your answer.

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You can be strange but not a stranger

Ok. You're a Pirate. Plain and simple.


After Reading Several of your posts it seems to me that you are just looking for ways to twist the statements of others here so you can justify people pirating Karaoke music. That would indicate to me that you are using pirated material or at least you support others using it.

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Sal "Kjmann" Esquivel
Karaoke With Sal - Website

Whatever you say.

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I am the ONLY SANE 1 HERE

If none of the IP owners are coming forward to say anything and DK is not saying that they didn't create them how is the general consumer to know?

I realize if the disks look like they were made in someone's basement, but it's also my understanding that some of the manu's have put out some pretty crappy products that sound to me like they were produced in someone's basement.

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My statements, opinions and conclusions are based on my own personal experiences, observations, research and/or just my own $.02. I'm not a "cheerleader", but that doesn't make me a Pirate.

Intent and knowledge aren't elements of copyright infringement--although innocent infringement is an important factor in damages.

I think the takeaways from this are:

1) If you do get sued, don't get too worked up about it. Being sued is not the end of the world. It does not, by itself, signify that you are an immoral person. Sometimes you can be sued (and found liable) even if you weren't aware that what you were doing was an infringement. Take a breath and work it out.

2) Be smart in assessing your risks. If the price you're paying doesn't cover the fixed costs of producing the disc, there's a pretty good chance that the person selling it (or their upstream provider) isn't covering the fixed costs. You have to weigh that according to the likelihood you'll get caught by someone who is in a position to sue, and weigh that against the benefits you derive from the activity.

Is it legal for a karaoke manufacturer to take a popular artist's song and create a karaoke version of it, copyright that karaoke version, market and then sell that karaoke version...for a song that they failed to get the proper licenses and permissions for the artist/music publisher?

Is it legal, ethical or possible for the karaoke manufacturer to then turn around and try to sue someone (successfully) for that same work purchased from a third party on a hard drive or download?

See
Leadsinger, Inc. v. BMG Music Publishing
Abkco Music, Inc. v. Stellar Records, Inc.
Zomba Enterprises, Inc. v. Panorama Records, Inc. (Panorama=Top Hits=Stellar Records Trademark)