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I think each person's experience on a site is gonna differ from another.. like you mentioned... there are people from all over the globe here and some people's way of saying things might be somewhat harsh... but they do have a right to say it! You said you came from one "hell hole" ... but I will tell you that, that "hell hole" was a pretty cool place! But that is just MY personal experience and I know other's that don't share it because of experiences they had! Those experiences could be easy had here as well.. as it is the people who make or break a site. I think having discussion forums is a good thing and everyone should be able to express an opinion.... just as tigrr did.... and Jazzy had every right to respond the way she did to his post! Feelings are feelings... right or wrong they exist... sometimes they are not logical.... but they are real to that person! I did notice that the board got real interesting and quite a few people were logged on.... so people do enjoy the "drama"... but I think it's to be expected anywhere you go.... people are gonna disagree differently... some use heavy sarcasm... it's just their way.... I am guilty of that myself! Sometimes I will post something and think OMG!! I wish I could delete THAT! OR... I'll water down a statement so much I feel like a sap.... ehem.... now I'm gonna regret saying THAT ... oh shoot... I better go do the dishes!!!

There was a time when communications took weeks or months to get between people. President Lincoln would often sit and write scathing letters only to tear them up and write an entirely different letter once he considered his words and the point of view of the other person.

In this modern society where information and ideas travel around the world in a matter of milliseconds it's extremely easy to write what you feel at the moment without considering the content or the consequences. Yes, consequences. The impact to others' feelings. We often forget that we are dealing with many different cultures with many different viewpoints and beliefs. While we Americans are watching the job interviews, er, Presidential Debates, many others around the world could care less about the fanfare - and only mildly curious about the final result.

I am guilty of using sarcasm to make a point, sometimes in the extreme. While I have my own viewpoints on what is right, wrong, or otherwise I am generally middle of the road and very easy going (I'm considered Libertarian - that should explain a lot!). I generally try to aim my sarcasm at those that are prepared for it but occasionally end up with it directed at those that may not be prepared for it, and/or understand it completely because of cultural differences.

If I was to turn in my singing 'Come Sail Away' by Styx as though I was singing like Eric Cartman (from the 'Chef Aid' episode) many outside the US (and many within) would have no idea I was trying to sound like a character from South Park.

I don't expect anyone's viewpoints to change, nor do I expect the sarcasm and other 'events' to stop. I do ask that we try to consider the possibility that it won't be taken the same way by those from other cultures.

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JazzyBaggz wrote


I don't think you have to apologize for voicing your opinion or being sensitive. You should always be true to who you are. No one can live ther entire life and avoid conflict or hurt feelings it happens to us all. Some are more sensitive than others to certain things. It isn't always easy to hear a conflicting point of view and not take it personally. We are who we are good or bad and acceptance goes both ways. You have to accept the good with the bad.
MissyGG Wrote


I agree with Genise here. I happen to be one of the names that always comes up in the conflicts. I'm very proud of that. I love conflict and debate and find it to be very healthy and liberating. I am not as sensitive as most and it's a fun outlet for my frustrations to debate with other intelligent people. That's what I get from this site and I know others get other things. That's what's so great about this place we all can get someting different. I try not to insult or harm people by voicing my opinions but sometimes I do. Does that mean I should keep my feelings to myself??? I hope not.

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if your comments are meant to hurt, belittle or patronise another member then yes wannabe you should keep your feelings to yourself or take it to pm...i have not however been aware of that and you do not strike me as a person that would want to attack someone in such a way...debate is good jabbing and back biting is not good. I believe its more adult to debate and yes disagree if you want to but the bitings and levels of sarcasm aimed at certain people by certain individuals is quite offensive...but then that takes me back to the original post....i.e the difference in people.

Wow - I have read this topic and re-read it to be certain that I was getting it (IMHO) correct.

Now first let me say, that I too am guilty, if you will, of using sarcasim, many times over. This is just my way. I do not mean to directly insult a person, although I know that I have at times. Do forgive me, just accept me!

karaokemeister - FYI - I also consider myself a Libertarian , but I digress, this isn't a political debate. On the issue at hand, I can agree with you.

JazzyBaggs - I also understand and agree with what you are saying.

Sheraokee - I think that you brought up some very valid points and agree with you too.

MissyGG - I will not even attempt to remark to all your different statements, but I have read and agree with you as well.

wannabe - Well put, I believe that we all would agree with you that you are free to make your feelings known. I haven't witnessed you directly attack anyone. {With the exception of AllStar - but he's yours to abuse as you see fit!}

How can I agree with everyone here? It is simple I believe! We are all in agreement that we are human beings with feelings. These felings cause each of us to react in our own ways. There is absolutely nothing wrong about that. However, if I do see where someone has stepped over the boundaries - I will remove or edit the post.

I like the fact that you folks enjoy the forums and the rest of the site. It is an honor for me to be associated with you people. I will do my best to provide you with as much "freedom" to express yourselves as possible.

Also, I generally am impressed by the information that is shared and the friendships that are established & maintained via this site.

Now if you "Crybabies" will stop whinning, may we get back to the real issues! <-- sarcasim!
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I agree with GG, but will add

Once think may have upset someone because I was not careful with my words the comment was given in a light hearted way and was not in anyway meant to criticize the person, I was referring to another situation.

I sent a PM explaining after I though offence had been taken and I got no reply, the person has since started posting again so I hope alls well with that person. I can assure everyone I have not got a malicious bone in my body I’m Cheeky at time but that’s part of my humour please accept it I like all of you that I have got to know so far including the said person
I think its the language I have probs with .

100% agree, that the written word can be dangerous its not like talking and getting responses then able to back peddle a bit and re-phrase etc.
you can read posts back later and go S**t I didn’t mean to say how that came out,

There are people who are a bit defensive, so if I have a joke with you IT IS A JOKE and I’m being friendly not critical, and PM me if you think I’ve gone too far I don’t want to fall out with any of you.

We cannot become ROBOTS on this site is the mix of people that make it interesting ITS GOOD TO TALK, to coin a phrase from the UK so don’t let any misunderstandings fester we don’t want to "Divorce" each over here do we?

This my first post after my Hi message I hope not to have to join this debate again in a hurry Geeeeeeeeeeees lets get on folks, and REAL nastie’s go somewhere else please.

smiles at larry...you got it matey

beachbum head....hmmm i reakon i got more of the high pitched sound for that song than you have sweetie...i might just record that now ya given me the idea and will be my first dedication to ya...how special is that thanks for the idea

thanks for taking the time to read my post me web man

missy.. I'm saving the squealy ones for when I need to use the rubber bands to sing... and you have never heard me sing Paula or Britney yet..

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