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well, I certainly haven't ignored it.what amazes me is that other manufacturers will sue KJ's based on unfair business practices – but they won't go after the discs that they claim are questionable and/or they know are unlicensed as an unfair business practice as well.

this can only lead to the logical conclusion that the discs sold by the "certified dealers" don't have any issues at all.

Exactly....

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I traded a $500 trailer for about 400 cdg's mostly CB, but it did include some SC discs and others as well. Should I be concerned that they may not be legit?

I bought my home 2 years ago for almost 1/2 of it's appraised value should I be concerned? It's not a mobile home so I'm pretty sure it wasn't stolen and relocated.

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@Hiteck, Did you check the manufacturer ring code around the toilet rim to be sure?

If it's not marked with a "nick on the inner rim" then you may need to bring a black light into the bathroom to see if your toilet has actually been audited.

That was the manufacturers ring code? I used a Magic Eraser on that and removed it

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This is America.....all discs are presumed innocent, until proven guilty in a court of law......

the cavs unit itself may be sold by a certified dealer - doesn't mean what ON it is certified to be on it. I remember cavs units being sold around here by 'certified' dealers loaded with SC, CB & everything else.

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There are quite a few different SCDGs available if you can find them. Chartbuster Essentials Vol. 1-6, 450 songs per vol.; DK Millenium I & II, 900 songs per disc; NuTech 1-3, 1234 songs per disc, CAVS 1-4, 200 songs per disc; Panorama 2004, 2005 & 2006, 454 songs per disc; Top Hits Monthly County, 1000 songs; Magic Tracks, Music Maestro Gold; Hot Stuff; Big Apple and Tropical Zone to name a few. These are all manufacturer discs and were sold by what I consider to be reputable karaoke dealers.

I have no idea if the manufacturers had proper licensing for these discs. I also have no idea if Sound Choice, Chartbuster, Stellar, etc. had proper licensing for all the songs they put out on CDG.

I assume the SCDGs are cheap because very few people buy them and they are trying to get rid of the stock.

A logical question was brought up. IF these discs are illegal, why is it that the mfrs haven't gone after them and sued the crap out of them. If the mfrs don't care, why should we?? Why is this even an issue. If I knew there were other companies who made good quality SCDG, I would probably by them. I don't know if the NuTech discs are any good (although, I remember they had a great version of Jeremy and a couple really good Led-Zeppelin songs), and I know the actual CAVS discs are pretty bad reproductions.

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Possibly they do not know who or where they are being produced. Much like many cdg manus out there, no contact info on anything whatsoever, sold from overseas so US laws can't touch them.

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If the material they were selling was in fact illegal, wouldn't the SCDG sellers be guilty of unfair business practices against other sellers of karaoke cdg's?

6 of the 8 DK SCDG's sellers on Amazon list in stock and ship from NY, IL, OH, and CA not overseas.

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Whatever the case, who cares. Nobody is getting sued for using them unless there are Sound Choice songs on the discs. I am not going to worry about it.

On a side note, does anyone have the NuTech discs? Are they any good?? Please no SCDG haters.

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Actually the place I got my DKs from was in VA.

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Okay doke!


Answering the side note, Nu-Tech is pretty bottom of the barrel quality wise, they have a handful of good tracks (which they stole from other manus and got popped for them), but most of their stuff is midi synth crap.

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Oh well, just figured I would ask.

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Smoothedge, if you're just starting out, and since you'll have to get the software to convert the SCDG's, I'd say the Nutech are worth the price. As with any other brand, you can always up-grade later. IMO, it's better to have the songs, then not. I do have the Nutech 1,2, and 3. If I don't have a better version, I'll use the Nutech. For the cost, worth buying.

Srnitynow

I got the DK Millennium SCDGs. They have plenty of songs, with what I already have. Now I want to get some more of today's music, and more country.

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The Nutech SCDG would probably be better if it wasn't multiplex AND low quality 128kbps rips. I also couldn't convert most of mine I got "redundancy error" trying to read them on every one of my drives. Some songs would work but mostly not.

Smoothe, best deal out right now is the All Star Karaoke "card". Sold at Target stores. They cost 20.00, and you get to pick 45 songs from their database. You can get the songs on cdg, or download. They have the newest country, and pop. The only other one right now that gives the "newest" stuff is Fasttraxx.

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